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If you don't mind going for a slightly shady CD key seller, Simply CD Keys have it for £19.99 after a voucher, G2A and Fast2Play for a bit less, though they are shadier. Nuuvem are apparently selling a worldwide version for a decent price.
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Naar posted:If you don't mind going for a slightly shady CD key seller, Simply CD Keys have it for £19.99 after a voucher, G2A and Fast2Play for a bit less, though they are shadier. Nuuvem are apparently selling a worldwide version for a decent price. FWIW, I bought Thief from Simply CD Keys and had no issues. Though they seem to be out of stock of DS2 right now.
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I have been sort of looking around but haven't found anything about how From or Namco will be implementing all the online junk. Will it use Steamworks or something created in house? I'm a little surprised that this hasn't been talked about or like had an article written about it.
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Apr 15, 2014 15:58
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The UK physical release of the PC version has been delayed by a week because of a manufacturing mess up with the packaging. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-04-15-manufacturing-issue-holds-boxed-pc-dark-souls-2-back-in-uk The digital release seems to be unaffected.
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Pelican Dunderhead posted:I have been sort of looking around but haven't found anything about how From or Namco will be implementing all the online junk. I'd like to know if the original Dark Souls will ever be updated to Steamworks, or if they're just going to leave that game to die.
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Organs posted:I'd like to know if the original Dark Souls will ever be updated to Steamworks, or if they're just going to leave that game to die. I don't think there is much they could do that would be cost efficient, but then again the Demon's Souls servers are still up after years of planning to take them down.
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Organs posted:I'd like to know if the original Dark Souls will ever be updated to Steamworks, or if they're just going to leave that game to die. Considering that Dark Souls was only released on PC in the first place because they could basically copy/paste the 360's netcode with Games for Windows Live, short of completely redoing the entire netcode, it seems unlikely.
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Demon's Souls uses servers and no GFWL unlike Dark Souls' p2p, so it can last as long as there's funding for the servers (which are still around today for that reason). Dark Souls is reliant on GFWL for its online stuff to work so it will break if GFWL is pulled with no direct replacement for it. I remember when I first started Dark Souls I figured that the horrible unplayable lag caused by its p2p network would at least have the upside of the online lasting forever, as long as people were playing, because it wouldn't have to connect to servers to work (unlike Demon's Souls and presumably Dark Souls 2 which are gone as soon as the servers are done). Hahaha nope thanks GFWL. We got laggy online and it's still going to die. Owl Inspector fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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Apr 15, 2014 17:23
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Gestalt Intellect posted:It will use Gamespy. MP on PC will probably last about that long anyway.
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Apr 15, 2014 18:04
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I don't get that sentiment. I keep getting told by people here that Dark Souls 1 PC is some kind of blighted no man's land, yet I get hits practically anytime and anywhere I decide to use my co-op orb.
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Heck, the DS1PC thread is pretty active and there's several LP's going showing that it the community is still fairly active.
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He made a joke, I also made a joke.  I was just PvPing minutes ago, it's definitely still fine.
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While there is some good activity on PC I will say that it always felt a lot less active than PS3 to me. Right after it came out on PC there was lots of activity but when it died down a little it was definitely much harder to sunbro, and there were a lot more hackers and cheaters invading. On PS3 at the same time I was getting summoned very reliably in most areas. I think PC probably had a smaller playerbase overall after the initial buzz, and to me that made a pretty big difference when the network already made it a headache to summon anyone. That mod that guaranteed you could connect to your friends was a godsend.
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It has less (zero) to do with playerbase and more the matching being fundamentally broken in the first game. There are a lot of people around you in the PC version that you just don't really get to ever see or interact with. Everything hinges on that one thing for this game as well. The real test is if two weeks after launch it still take more than 2 attempts to summon the same person. Then we'll know if they actually hosed it up or not. Actually sheer volume of ghosts and messages in the tutorial area and majula will let us know if the connectivity works or not.
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So glad this game comes out the same time most people get their tax refund.
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Gazaar posted:It has less (zero) to do with playerbase and more the matching being fundamentally broken in the first game. There are a lot of people around you in the PC version that you just don't really get to ever see or interact with. Judging by the console versions this won't be a problem. Connections rarely fail and when they do its often due to the host dying or the phantom being summoned by someone else. The more pressing issue will be the soul memory system and how it complicates the matchmaking.
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Been watching PVP videos to psyche myself up for this game. Looks great so far because people are still kinda getting into the groove of things. So excited for the new covenants and the different ways of doing everything. I feel bad for PS/XBox users, the loading times seem sorta long as hell.
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I'm double dipping on PS3 and PC and I'm mainly looking forwards to faster loading times, especially when it comes to PvP. Sitting at loading screens and then waiting 10 seconds for your duel opponent to get summoned is just painful. The graphical updates, even if they aren't at the level I'd hoped them to be (yet) will be nice too.
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voltron lion force posted:Judging by the console versions this won't be a problem. Connections rarely fail and when they do its often due to the host dying or the phantom being summoned by someone else. The more pressing issue will be the soul memory system and how it complicates the matchmaking. Part of the problem (IIRC) with the PC Dark Souls 1 version is that a lot of people don't have the right Xbox ports open, since when you connect an actual Xbox it opens them, but it still wants them for GFWL. So you get tons of failed connections and such. I invaded 20 different people in the space of an hour at 6AM GMT -7, so there's plenty of people on 1. Most of the hackers have moved on as well.
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I heard that in DS2 you have the ability to respec your stats, so does that include all your stats or just the ones you've added to? So for example, if you start as a class which has 9 intelligence, but you don't plan to use any spells, can you put yourself down to zero or 1 intelligence and reallocate those points elsewhere? Or is there a minimum of how low you can put something?
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Orv posted:Part of the problem (IIRC) with the PC Dark Souls 1 version is that a lot of people don't have the right Xbox ports open, since when you connect an actual Xbox it opens them, but it still wants them for GFWL. There's also the extra issue that, if you have an XBox, it still wants the same ports, and two devices can't have the same ports open for them with port forwarding. So you have to mess with the registry.
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Pb and Jellyfish posted:I heard that in DS2 you have the ability to respec your stats, so does that include all your stats or just the ones you've added to? So for example, if you start as a class which has 9 intelligence, but you don't plan to use any spells, can you put yourself down to zero or 1 intelligence and reallocate those points elsewhere? Or is there a minimum of how low you can put something? It's purely reallocation, no de-leveling. Don't think you can go below your starting stats.
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Tallgeese posted:There's also the extra issue that, if you have an XBox, it still wants the same ports, and two devices can't have the same ports open for them with port forwarding. So you have to mess with the registry. The fact this requires a regedit will always be amazing. Being able to choose ports in an option menu isn't exactly revolutionary!
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FROM is a very Japanese company, and Japanese studios don't really make PC games. The fact that they did their own port of the first game speaks volumes to their dedication to learn. I'm pretty optimistic.
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Man am I ever glad I only have a 750m so I don't need to care about the graphics. I played through DS1 with DSMfix, should I go out and get a gamepad for DSII? I already have the wireless 360 controllers, but I'm less than enthusiastic about having to either buy a 40 dollar wired controller or a 30 dollar wireless receiver (I'm in Canada, we get boned on prices).
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Tallgeese posted:Got a PS3 or PS4 pad? Those will work fine as well. Unfortunately no - I have a 360 that I basically only use for netflix so I can just grab my controller from that. Basically what I'm wondering is whether or not I should just say 'gently caress it' and buy the receiver or try and muscle through on KB&M.
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From what I understand the KB&M controls can be entirely remapped this time, including sensitivity so it all works just fine out of the box.
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I for one am glad I have access to a USB Xbox controller now. Played DS1 with both M/K and a controller and it was like night and day. Looking forward to all the crazy mods, especially Shibe Souls v2.0
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I bought one of the wireless receivers and got it to work, but I did have to jump through some software hoops, looking up poo poo online and messing with settings and properties, but it if the controls are at all similar to DS1 I just can't see wanting to use a keyboard and mouse instead. Even if they are doable this time, I just can't see it being nearly as good. I beat the first game with KB&M, and later got the wireless receiver, and it made a world of difference. I never parried, jump attacked, and seldom locked on during my first playthrough. Not to say that one would necessarily be this limited, but we know for a fact that DS2 works well and feels great with a gamepad, so I would go with it.
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Pb and Jellyfish posted:I bought one of the wireless receivers and got it to work, but I did have to jump through some software hoops, looking up poo poo online and messing with settings and properties, but it if the controls are at all similar to DS1 I just can't see wanting to use a keyboard and mouse instead. Even if they are doable this time, I just can't see it being nearly as good. I beat the first game with KB&M, and later got the wireless receiver, and it made a world of difference. I never parried, jump attacked, and seldom locked on during my first playthrough. Not to say that one would necessarily be this limited, but we know for a fact that DS2 works well and feels great with a gamepad, so I would go with it. I've had one of those Xbox wireless dongles for ages and it is so useful. I don't even have a 360 anymore, left it in the US when I moved abroad 6 years ago, but I've been carrying the same xbox 360 wireless controller all this time. Seriously, folks, if you own a 360 do yourself a favor and get the dongle. I actually never had to do anything special to get it working, either.
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In my old age, I've become less excited about video games. If something amazing comes out, I will buy it a year later on Steam for cheap, get around to it whenever, and play it in 15 minute bursts over a couple of months until I finally finish it. I'm installing this game before I leave for work, then playing it all weekend. The only thing that bums me out is that I will only be able to play it for the first time once. On my first Dark Souls character, I grabbed the zweihander at the beginning and smashed my way through the game. Is there anything like that I can grab early on?
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^^Everything works differently now. You'll never block again, for starters. You can get a two-hander early on. I hope DS2 on PC has as many people for multiplayer as it does on the consoles. Yanking people into my world and getting yanked into theirs was definitely the best part. Bellbros for life (and undeath. Lots of undeath.)!
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Professor Wayne posted:In my old age, I've become less excited about video games. If something amazing comes out, I will buy it a year later on Steam for cheap, get around to it whenever, and play it in 15 minute bursts over a couple of months until I finally finish it. I'm installing this game before I leave for work, then playing it all weekend. The only thing that bums me out is that I will only be able to play it for the first time once. On my first Dark Souls character, I grabbed the zweihander at the beginning and smashed my way through the game. Is there anything like that I can grab early on? If you're lucky and you pick the right starting gift, there's a chance that you can get something that's even bigger and smashier than the zwei right out of the gate!
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The mace. You're going to be using the mace the whole game if you wanna go smashy. That's just how it'll work.
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Fister Roboto posted:If you're lucky and you pick the right starting gift, there's a chance that you can get something that's even bigger and smashier than the zwei right out of the gate! Uh, what?
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HitmanAndQuitIt posted:Uh, what? One of the starting gifts is the "top tier" trade in item for the crows in this game. Everything they give out is RANDOM. Top tier rewards include slabs, twinkling, the channelers trident, Demons Great Hammer and the best whip in the game.
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