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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Right now WWE's coasting on some goodwill with most of the IWC. Bryan's got the belts, AJ lost but the new champ isn't a random Total Divas member, the Network didn't implode last Sunday, etc. Everyone's kinda chill.

They will screw up again and then the DRAMA! will begin.

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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I just figured he was proposing he be renamed Killer Joe and rely on the audience's knowledge of William Friedkin's filmography.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I think a Cruiserweight division as something to flesh out the undercard would be fine, just as it was in WCW. What makes the article wrong-headed is the idea that you'd segregate all the lower weight wrestlers into it and try and make it seem as important as the heavyweights, which A) is never happening in WWE because both Vince and HHH love big muscly guys and B) they're not really structured in such a way that they can have more than one top-of-the-card scene. Actual combat sports can make it seem like that primarily because not everyone is fighting all the goddamn time, so sometimes it's one belt up for a big fight and sometimes it's another.

[C) "Muscly" is an actual word. Huh.]

Of course WWE's heavy size bias means that even an undercard cruiserweights division would be hard for them to pay attention to. Like, if I had absolute power over the WWE card I'd try to move away from the old tradition of just focusing on big guys tossing each other around, but realistically that's not going to change much soon.

(Plus if you think it's bad now, try watching the 1998 Royal Rumble. That was peak "everyone looks like everyone else" saturation.)

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Rodney the Piper posted:


This is one of the worst things I've ever loving read.

So, uh, what is this unique Briscoe style? They remember to sell sometimes?

Yeah, nobody understands that.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
And that's 500k for two years. Which, if this weren't totally a troll, would be a quarter million a year.

Still too much, mind you.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Fauxhawk Express posted:

From the DVDVR boards, a place I loved a decade ago but is pretty much poo poo now:


I don't think pro wrestling is for you, son.

Sometimes it's not about workrate. It's about how many people can Dean Ambrose murder.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

It's a joke "fictitious person takes over" post.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I feel like I want to file for a restraining order against this guy on her behalf. But she's probably gone and done that.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I can't quite imagine the mindset of someone who ONLY likes TNA wrestling. That's like only liking Asylum films.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Isn't most media undergoing a decline in numbers just due to fragmentation? UFC I think is still an exception, and I'm sure the WWE's effective monopoly doesn't help, but wrestling's situation isn't unique.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I eagerly await the fans claiming the show's ratings are skyrocketing simply because Destination America's lower carriage means the numbers could go up and still represent fewer overall viewers.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
The big thing is wrestling shows don't get car ads, which are your major prime time buys- the assumption being that while the lower income demo will spend money on PPVs and toys and Just For Men they don't have enough to put a down payment on a new car.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I like the idea that TNA has Vince scared now.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

WeaponX posted:

ring of horror is exactly what scifi channel wished wwecw was going to be. frankly i don't think it's too late..

Does ROH have an October PPV or special event? Because I think we have a title.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Guignol posted:

Salieri would probably be remembered more favourably if Peter Shaffer hadn't written a play specifically to talk poo poo about him

To be fair I understand the movie actually sparked a revival of interest in Salieri's work.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Metsfan is like that joke about economists successfully predicting 9 out of the last 5 recessions.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Under the vegetable posted:

That would be awesome.

It's not like boxing is a sport anyone respects now anyway. May as well follow suit.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

SamuraiFoochs posted:

Is that meant to be to the tune of the Saved By The Bell theme? Because it doesn't work at all.

So I'm not crazy. I kept trying to make that scan.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
You can get banned from a subreddit?

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

NickRoweFillea posted:

i didnt read this stupid horse poo poo. how can someone write so much and say so little

My eyes started glazing over at the third paragraph.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Niiiiight train to cancellation...

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Alouicious posted:

if Roger Corman ran a fed



it'd probably be exactly like ROH, honestly

Surely more like LU?

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
If TNAMecca turns, it will be the...

How many nails has it been?

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Woman is the mark of the world.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Jake the Snake is a good example of a heel using their flashy move well, to frustrate and anger the audience by suddenly bringing the match to an end. A lot of heel finishers are like that, just "no matter what, I can drop you immediately."

But moves which require more setup can work as well, though it's dependent on the face selling that they've been totally demolished and this is just the final blow. (Yokozuna's banzai drop, Rusev's accolade, etc.)

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
What does 50/50 mean?

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I really am looking forward to the day when homosexuality is so accepted that wrestling has it commonly come up in storylines. Like, have "the two start making out furiously" be a legitimate end for feuds.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
It's interesting to see just how much her star has risen just in the time from Mania 31 to now. Like, she was popular then, it was a great spot and the crowd loved it, now EVERYBODY knows her.

I'd say they could get her in another non-wrestling appearance but even being a guest ref presumably carries some risk of injury.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
TNA will tape next in Philadelphia, at that run-down church at the beginning of Rocky.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Dave really should have diversified instead of putting everything into plush bear futures.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Blast Fantasto posted:

I just wanted a thread to post this guy's pages long Noelle Foley fantasy booking:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/3nwkwe/showerthought_if_noelle_foley_ever_steps_into_the

Make her a manager for someone who can already talk just fine on his own. Brilliant!

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
What I don't understand is how anyone who likes Rodriguez would think LU's plots are too trashy.

Like I get there are still wrestling fans who don't like goofy stories and weird inhuman characters for some reason, but this is a channel that plays Lucio Fulci movies on a regular basis.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Total Divas has been a net drag on the Divas division- it gets ratings and attention, but I think that's led to them booking the Divas on RAW/SD like they're on a bad reality show, i.e. Everyone is just catty and horrible to each other for no particular reason. (This is in addition to the times they try to directly tie-in or reference events on the show, even though everything then is explicitly shown as happening months ago.)

It's not like the writing for the male wrestlers is especially good right now, but you can at least discern the basic elements of storytelling most of the time- it's just clouded over by bad execution.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

flashy_mcflash posted:

Time to play 'How Long Can You Last'! Maybe the UK goons can let us know what this turd is saying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydsxKzi5XxA

Oh God, it's the UK Boonhauer.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

oldpainless posted:

They could just cut her off by sticking their hand in her face.

One of the writers tried that once.

He's left handed now.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Randy is very good at performing in the ring. It's when you put a mic in his hands that his limitations become obvious.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
She shows up in Nashville, buildings everywhere are condemned, windows boarded, the one person she can find angrily says "There ain't no wrasslin' company here, and there never were! Now git!"

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Like all good things in WWE it'll eventually be run into the ground but for now I still enjoy it.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
TNA is more like the Wing Commander movie

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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Was Styles with them from the beginning? He was there for a LONG loving time and always just not quite main eventing.

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