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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer

pathetic little tramp posted:

I don't know what about half of these words mean but I can tell it's a loving clusterfuck of boring.

Are we sure Raven Effect isn't an alias for Vince Russo?

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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
"WWE and ROH are in cahoots"

This is wonderful.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
We should have suspected something when he made all those tweets about how Bill Cosby did nothing wrong.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Chris James 2 posted:

Jesus loving christ that whole paragraph is only 2 sentences :stare:

Mein Kampf was written in much the same fashion.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
And storylines that consist entirely of "bitches be crazy"

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

This person has never heard Yesterday.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

coconono posted:

yeah its not like all those head dildos New Day sold could have paid for a TNA taping weekend or anything.

If TNA had any act that sold as much merch as New Day they'd be solvent.

(Side note: I keep forgetting who TNA actually still has on their roster.)

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
It's one thing to have stylistic preferences, but I've heard people actually saying this kind of thing Is Not Wrestling which is stupid and dumb.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Charlotte finally loses the Women's title when she opens the wrong lockbox.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
At this point we're all dancing around the fundamental truth that they should bring back War Games.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
It's a derivative of Norm Macdonald's Theory, namely "Germans love David Hasselhoff."

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

DarkstarIV posted:



RAW may be bad, but it would still slaughter TNA, ratings wise.

RAW killed TNA when they had Criss Angel doing guest spots.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
It's homophobic but in a way that kind of accepts that wrestling is gay as hell and should just go all in.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Alain Post posted:

it's not about overanalysis or anything like that, wrestling is a worked sport and trying to write about it as a "storytelling medium" in a way that sidelines the actual matches shows a lack of understanding of the medium itself

There are like a hundred people doing the match by match breakdown. I think it's good to have a broader overview of what an episode is doing.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Alain Post posted:

Yeah but this is kind of buying into WWE's hosed-up view of wrestling, one which honestly isn't that far removed from Vince Russo poo poo (I mean, WWE doesn't really abuse worked shoots, but still)

No more than, say, Lucha Underground's is. At heart wrestling uses a combination of matches and angles to tell stories and draw in audiences. WWE's problem is not and has never been that it has story segments. It's a problem when the writing for those segments is bad.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

sticklefifer posted:

I can kinda see how a transwoman might have an advantage over cis women in an MMA fight if we're talking purely physical attributes, but the domestic violence comparison pretty much obscures anything he's trying to say there. Too bad, Kaasa's crazy good in the ring. I wonder what he thinks of Yosuke Santa Maria since they're both in DG.

I know the Olympic standard is transwomen can compete as women so long as they've been on hormones for a certain amount of time- after a while their muscle production slows and they don't have any advantage.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
From all that I saw of AJ in TNA I figured "Okay he's a great wrestler but he's probably one of those who will never be that good a talker and that does limit him a little", but somehow WWE caught him when he found his voice.

Granted it does help that he no longer looks like a literal teenager.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
A new "Monday Night Wars" series where you can hear Keith David get up and leave the recording booth midway through the first episode.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

I briefly thought he meant Shane Douglas. Which- I'm not sure if that would be worse.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Babinsack almost makes a point in all that, but it's clear that he's so bound up in the Way Wrestling Used to Be that any deviation from that is the reason wrestling isn't as big now.

Jobber squashes do help establish a mystique for a wrestler you want to push, but audiences simply would not accept a show that's as squash-heavy now as wrestling TV used to be. The standard got raised and there's no going back, we expect more competitive matches and big story moments on the free show, and companies have to work to pace that so that there's still something left for the PPVs/Network specials/etc. That's the way it is.

(And it's not like there clearly isn't still a hierarchy within promotions now.)

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
There have been "pseuicides" like this in fandom before. It's a way of angling for sympathy and attention.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
The resurgence of fascism around the globe is troubling overall, but I never expected it to come to TNAMecca.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer

DO THESE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT SONG PARODIES ARE

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
They act as a Cerberus of sorts, with more heads.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Oh God and one of the replies is just pure anti-Semitism.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
So is the forum normally that loving regressive or what

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Heck, when I was in Cambridge back in 2001, I told some guy I was from Kansas City and he was like "Oh, like the Kansas City Chiefs". The Chiefs weren't even good that year.

(I wonder if it helps at all that US football is structurally similar to rugby.)

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Remember when they'd bring Heath Slater out specifically to job to respected wrestling veterans?

That is Piers Morgan's entire life.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I like the assertion that Yokozuna and Mahal aren't actually Asian.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Alexa Bliss is a very good wrestler who unfortunately has the WORST fanbase, it seems.

When you're basically the wrestling version of Harley Quinn it's inevitable.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

where's the stupid, God of War 2018 ain't just hype and might legit be the absolute peak of the whole AAA movie-games thing

I mean it's no Monster Hunter World.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I mean bars are a place where people try to meet people, still. (Though I suspect not as much these days, I see a lot more couples.)

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
MGTOWITB

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Raeg posted:

I'll start it but the only character options are Stone Cold Steve Austin and a guy in a dark club who you could mistake for Stone Cold Steve Austin.

What about Tahani's head on Stone Cold Steve Austin's body?

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Brie Bella's new gimmick, "Every CAW in every wrestling game ever".

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Aesop Poprock posted:

I’m not a horror movie guy but aren’t like 95% of horror films still relatively low budget/direct to dvd or tv stuff? A buddy of mine who’s 20 works for Troma because it’s an easier way to get into the industry to this day apparently

Horror has always traditionally been a low-budget genre. There's the occasional A-level project like The Shining, and The Exorcist was a legitimate blockbuster, but historically, you don't have to spend a lot of money to make an effective horror flick, so why bother?

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Any individual worker being a lovely person is usually something I overlook due to management being worse. But yeah, also, Warrior's dead.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Plus now they're down a match and have to juggle everything.

Before this announcement they seemed pretty committed to wheel spinning- Roman had the belt and the status quo was in place, maybe even until the Rumble. This is the typical "WWE don't do much because everyone's watching football anyway" period. They have to be scrambling now.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Like it was JBL right? That's gotta be a safe bet. EDIT: Oh he's not in the HoF.

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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
And deleted.

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