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loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench posted:

As a member of the Verizon Unlimited Illuminati I like to leave wifi on for location services but never connect to any spots because my 4G is faster by a mile. On my various Android phones this leads to incessant nagging to connect to a wifi network. Would an Icon nag me similarly?

There's a checkbox in Settings for that -- turn it off and a WP phone will never bug you about Wi-Fi networks again.

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OldPueblo
May 2, 2007

Likes to argue. Wins arguments with ignorant people. Not usually against educated people, just ignorant posters. Bing it.
The only box I have checked on this setting card is the keep Wifi on when the screen times out. I still auto connect to the ones I've manually connected to fine. The automatically join AT&T hotspot one annoyed me a lot because as said above it would connect but then I'd have to sign into a webpage (without being aware I had done so). The second checkbox takes care of that.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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WattsvilleBlues posted:

Here's my usage scenario - I work long days, and no where near WiFi. I like to conserve my battery as much as possible, especially since I have to use Here Drive, and that thing demolishes battery (even after it's been closed - I think it's a long-standing bug). So I turn mobile data off unless I need to explicitly use it.

On my days off, I'm usually in a WiFi zone, so I have WiFi turned on and mobile data turned off. Occasionally, someone will send me an MMS picture message, which can only be downloaded over mobile data, so I need to hop in and out of settings to toggle it.

So that's it. I want to conserve battery and data usage.
Yeah I've had the HERE drive thing destroy battery also so I can get that.

We've worked pretty hard to not be excessive on cell data. In fact, on several carries it's part of the acceptance criteria that we have to meet (ie, the phone just stilling idle with can't consume more then X amount of data.) Many people in places (esp China) are on your small/limited data plans, but from what I understand is that they pretty much just leave the data off non stop and rely almost exclusively on wifi (ie, the toggling often isn't a thing). I believe the texting/mms thing just doesn't happen as much and they use WhatsApp/QQ/Weibo (or whatever one of those apps are called) to replace the need for cell data all together.

I'll forward the request to add the quick toggle option for cell data toggle. Can't promise anything but it doesn't hurt to ask though.

Sri.Theo posted:

Managing Wi-Fi or mobile data are incredibly useful.

1) In the USA do you not have shops/restaurants which have open Wi-Fi but then require you to click though an acceptance screen or enter your email address or something? They're everywhere in the UK and are really annoying because if you've connected in the past your phone will always re-connect but not actually be able to use it. It's easier just to flip wifi on or off.
This is what wifi sense is all about. Leave that wifi on and it will do the work for you. Don't worry about the captive portal -- we'll do it without you needing to.

Sri.Theo posted:

And while I'm here can you test how Cortana reacts to commands given through a headset microphone on the Emulator? Especially if you take a voice note or make a reminder does the screen turn on even if its in your pocket? That was so annoying I had to stop using that feature.
I'm not sure if it does or not. I don't have the headset with the controls to try it out, sorry.

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh

xylo posted:

I'll forward the request to add the quick toggle option for cell data toggle. Can't promise anything but it doesn't hurt to ask though.

Gentleman (or lady), thanks. It's one of the few settings that can actually save you money, especially if you're on a fairly low data plan as I am.

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

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GET PUMPED!
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xylo posted:

I'm not sure if it does or not. I don't have the headset with the controls to try it out, sorry.

I know my headset gets my voice in the emulator (IE. I can record audio), but Cortana does not actually finish any request done with voice. It always fails with an error message, so I can't test the integration stuff I've done to see if it works. Is there any way I can test that with the emulator? Or do I have to wait for the dev preview? Or is it just broken for me.

Wheezle
Aug 13, 2007

420 stop boats erryday

Combat Pretzel posted:

The MSDN forums are using the most terrible forums software known to man.

xylo, why aren't common resources like PhoneAccentColor and such available in App.xaml or any custom resource dictionaries, but any of the regular pages? Actually, only a fraction of the Phone* resources are available at all. There's plenty of TextBlock styles that don't show up. :|

--edit: This SDK is broken. The documentation lists tons of styles with the Phone* prefix that are simply not available. Copying and trying to use the theme resource files from the SDK into the project, it breaks the project because it can't resolve System:Double.

--edit2: I suppose they're all gone and only relate to Silverlight. Taking apart the project templates, they don't use these either.

You think that's busted, try dragging a commandbar from the toolbox onto a windows phone app in the UI designer.

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost

Wheezle posted:

You think that's busted, try dragging a commandbar from the toolbox onto a windows phone app in the UI designer.

:crossarms: People do that? I always typed it in.

bootleg robot
Dec 8, 2004

Drastic Actions posted:

:crossarms: People do that? I always typed it in.

Same here. And since VS 2013 added xaml intellisense, I can see the list of default static resources available to me as I type. It's pretty neat.

Doomsday Jesus
Oct 8, 2004

Doomsday Jesus we need you now.
I am excited about the big update coming, but I was hoping for more hardware wise. I was really hoping to see an upgraded 1020 out there.

OldPueblo
May 2, 2007

Likes to argue. Wins arguments with ignorant people. Not usually against educated people, just ignorant posters. Bing it.
As promised. How to add wireless charging to probably any TPU case. I did this twice, worked the first time on both devices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baSlO-_bqpk

I am a lazy video maker so I apologize for its awfulness. I basically guessed at the whole thing.

OldPueblo fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Apr 9, 2014

Jewmanji
Dec 28, 2003
Not sure what the update is, but my phone just received notification of it (Lumia 920, on AT&T, signed up for the developer preview), and now I'm getting nothing but the gears and a progress bar frozen at around 5%

poo poo.

OldPueblo
May 2, 2007

Likes to argue. Wins arguments with ignorant people. Not usually against educated people, just ignorant posters. Bing it.
If you barely signed up it's a placeholder kind of thing to prep for the real update. Let it sit awhile. Your OS will likely end in .155 when it's done.

Jewmanji
Dec 28, 2003
You were right about that. Seemed like a fairly major update.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
Nobody can ever say Window Phone has fanboys, because all I see here are goddamn complaints.

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

This is an infuriatingly negative thread sometimes yeah :shobon:

Good for long term posting morale though, as cheerleading is pretty unfun after a bit.

MyFaceBeHi
Apr 9, 2008

I was popular, once.
I managed to have a go on a phone with Windows Phone 8.1 on it (Microsoft has a stand at a tech expo over here) and, from very brief impressions, it's alright. I can't say they have fixed everything because I didn't get much of a chance to check everything out, but the backgrounds thing certainly looked slick and the notifications thing was cool. This was running on a NL1020 so it was super fast.

Also, I didn't see Cortana on there (which I guess is to be expected if it isn't going to be available in the UK yet) but pressing the search button brought up Bing so at least that is staying. Pressing/holding the Windows key did nothing, though.

Wheezle
Aug 13, 2007

420 stop boats erryday

ElGroucho posted:

Nobody can ever say Window Phone has fanboys, because all I see here are goddamn complaints.

Clearly you've never been to WPCentral.

Sri.Theo
Apr 16, 2008

ElGroucho posted:

Nobody can ever say Window Phone has fanboys, because all I see here are goddamn complaints.

We complain because we love.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
My only complaint right now is with AT&T and Verizon and their awful exclusive nonsense. My contract on AT&T is up for my 900, and I can get a now underpowered 1020, or a 1520 with good hardware that is stupid-big.

Is this going to be one of those things where buying an international 930 means no LTE on AT&T?

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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ElGroucho posted:

My only complaint right now is with AT&T and Verizon and their awful exclusive nonsense.
In many instances, carriers are not your friend. From the phone exclusive blocking to subsidized phones, the customer doesn't win.

They are currently fighting a war that will see their respective companies becoming nothing more then "dumb pipes" again for the second time in less then 2 decades.

Lance Streetman
Feb 20, 2011

A parfait is a dessert, but it is also the French word for perfect.

ElGroucho posted:

Nobody can ever say Window Phone has fanboys, because all I see here are goddamn complaints.

Not true. Lord Bude exists.

nerdrum
Aug 17, 2007

where am I

ElGroucho posted:

My only complaint right now is with AT&T and Verizon and their awful exclusive nonsense. My contract on AT&T is up for my 900, and I can get a now underpowered 1020, or a 1520 with good hardware that is stupid-big.

Is this going to be one of those things where buying an international 930 means no LTE on AT&T?

Has anyone tried a Lumia Icon on AT&T? In refarmed areas it should get HSPA++ i'm not sure if the accesspoint nokia app fixes the mms issue though.. if it does you can grab an icon on craigslist for usually around 380-400 still sealed in a box.

Jewmanji
Dec 28, 2003
Does anyone who has a gmail account synced to their phone use 2-step authentication? In lieu of Heartbleed I finally changed my Gmail password and enabled two-step authentication, and now my phone won't accept my password (or the temporary 6-digit code they text me). Are they incompatible?

cstine
Apr 15, 2004

What's in the box?!?

Jewmanji posted:

Does anyone who has a gmail account synced to their phone use 2-step authentication? In lieu of Heartbleed I finally changed my Gmail password and enabled two-step authentication, and now my phone won't accept my password (or the temporary 6-digit code they text me). Are they incompatible?

You need to use an application specific password for the client - generate one in the security settings of your account and use that to log in with.

Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


You have to go to Google account settings and create an app password; it'll be a string of 16(?) characters that you enter in the password field. You can do the same for your Microsoft account and for both it applies to things like third party email clients and the like.

Oh, and you can use the Microsoft authenticator app with your Google account, just take a picture of the bar code when it comes up.

Mecca-Benghazi fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Apr 12, 2014

MC Hawking
Apr 27, 2004

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Fun Shoe

xylo posted:

becoming nothing more then "dumb pipes" again for the second time in less then 2 decades.

The hell does this even mean?

Maneki Neko
Oct 27, 2000

ElGroucho posted:

My only complaint right now is with AT&T and Verizon and their awful exclusive nonsense. My contract on AT&T is up for my 900, and I can get a now underpowered 1020, or a 1520 with good hardware that is stupid-big.

Is this going to be one of those things where buying an international 930 means no LTE on AT&T?

I'd be shocked if we don't hear something soon about AT&T picking up a version of the 930

Presto
Nov 22, 2002

Keep calm and Harry on.

Maneki Neko posted:

[*]You join the developer program, potential void your support/warranty, and update at your leisure. See here for details
I don't understand how to make this happen. I have a dev-unlocked 920. Went to the page, click the install button, got a page saying congratulations, then nothing happens. So I found another link to download the .xap but when I try to deploy it, it says it's an invalid file.

Why do you make this so hard, MS? :mad:

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE

Lance Streetman posted:

Not true. Lord Bude exists.

you beat me to the punch.

Wheezle
Aug 13, 2007

420 stop boats erryday

Presto posted:

I don't understand how to make this happen. I have a dev-unlocked 920. Went to the page, click the install button, got a page saying congratulations, then nothing happens. So I found another link to download the .xap but when I try to deploy it, it says it's an invalid file.

Why do you make this so hard, MS? :mad:

The preview isn't out yet. You'll get an OTA update when it is.

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh
We still looking at 10th April for the Preview for Developers drop of 8.1?

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost

WattsvilleBlues posted:

We still looking at 10th April for the Preview for Developers drop of 8.1?

:crossarms:

Seeing that it's the 13th, I'm pretty sure no one is. It'll probably be early this week... maybe...

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Drastic Actions posted:

:crossarms:

Seeing that it's the 13th, I'm pretty sure no one is. It'll probably be early this week... maybe...

Bollocks, I meant the 14th! If it's not here by Tuesday, it will not be delivered in the first half of April as foretold in the BUILD scriptures. So there will be a great earthquake and the sun will become as black as sack cloth, and the moon will become as blood, and the seas will boil and the skies fall.

Yeah, I'll go get a life now. But I will be disappointed. My HTC 8X has started playing up this past week, saying it's got no SIM card when it clearly has. I'm hoping it's just a stupid temporary software glitch that's appeared - a power cycle picks it up again. But it's recurrent.

EdEddnEddy
Apr 5, 2012



WattsvilleBlues posted:

Bollocks, I meant the 14th! If it's not here by Tuesday, it will not be delivered in the first half of April as foretold in the BUILD scriptures. So there will be a great earthquake and the sun will become as black as sack cloth, and the moon will become as blood, and the seas will boil and the skies fall.

Yeah, I'll go get a life now. But I will be disappointed. My HTC 8X has started playing up this past week, saying it's got no SIM card when it clearly has. I'm hoping it's just a stupid temporary software glitch that's appeared - a power cycle picks it up again. But it's recurrent.

That's more a hardware issue with the Sim card than anything..



They say to put a piece of tape on the back of the sim to make it a bit thicker to fix it. :psyduck:

The Manticore
Aug 23, 2008

Did you mean to make that post, or were you just pushing keys at random?
Yeah, it's a known hardware issue. I did the tape fix last year after having the same problem and it's seated more snugly now.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
Finally looked into the emulator image. The main phone UI still runs on UIX instead of WinRT. :sigh:

At least it doesn't take a backseat on mainline Windows.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
My iPhone is giving me some trouble and since I switched to all Windows for now I figured I'd give WinPhone a try. Should I basically be waiting for new hardware at this point? I haven't really kept up with WinPhone or Nokia at ALL so I don't know if we're on the verge of new shiny things to buy.

OldPueblo
May 2, 2007

Likes to argue. Wins arguments with ignorant people. Not usually against educated people, just ignorant posters. Bing it.

Martytoof posted:

My iPhone is giving me some trouble and since I switched to all Windows for now I figured I'd give WinPhone a try. Should I basically be waiting for new hardware at this point? I haven't really kept up with WinPhone or Nokia at ALL so I don't know if we're on the verge of new shiny things to buy.

Rather than drop some cash on a high end device, if you want to just try it out pick up a 520/521 for peanuts and dip your toe in the water. It gives you the full software/UI experience, you're only missing "some" performance benefits and hardware features (camera/NFC/hires/etc). If you decide you like it then it will tide you over till the device you want becomes available. Personally I think the 920/925/928/1020 are still great devices for what should be a decent lower price now. Don't burn any upgrades, get them second hand if you want something better than a 520/521. There is good new hardware, but some of them dropped some cool things or aren't available on all carriers. I'm personally waiting for what comes after the 930 which was JUST announced. My 1020 is doing just fine.

OldPueblo
May 2, 2007

Likes to argue. Wins arguments with ignorant people. Not usually against educated people, just ignorant posters. Bing it.

WattsvilleBlues posted:

Bollocks, I meant the 14th! If it's not here by Tuesday, it will not be delivered in the first half of April as foretold in the BUILD scriptures. So there will be a great earthquake and the sun will become as black as sack cloth, and the moon will become as blood, and the seas will boil and the skies fall.

Yeah, I'll go get a life now. But I will be disappointed. My HTC 8X has started playing up this past week, saying it's got no SIM card when it clearly has. I'm hoping it's just a stupid temporary software glitch that's appeared - a power cycle picks it up again. But it's recurrent.

Today's the day. :toot:

http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/buildingapps/archive/tags/phone/

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Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013

Wheezle posted:

Clearly you've never been to WPCentral.

Maybe I have low standards, but I find their reporting to generally by pretty fair. They complain when they should complain. The main difference between them and a "real" news site s that they pick up even the most insignificant bit of news/rumor and after complaining they tend to put a more positive spin on thing.


My wife's phone received an OTA update yesterday. For moment I thought it was an early release or something but nothing seems to have changed.

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