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I'll vote because I get an-all-too-fleeting sense of optimism from putting an X on a sheet of paper and then posting it into a big black box, but I'll do it with record levels of cynicism. Haven't decided who I'll vote for yet, but it'll probably come down to 2 parties who are both in the Green-European Free Alliance group because of sheer lack of better options. Scotland sends 6 MEPs to Brussels from the UKs 73, with 2 coming from the SNP (GEFA), 2 from Labour (S&D), 1 Tory (ECR) & 1 Lib Dem (ALDE). But going by the latest polls it looks like the SNP contingent will go up to 3 while the Liberals will get battered for being partners with the Tories at Westminster, ending with them losing half their vote. The Greens are polling below UKIP which is depressing, UKIPs numbers in Scotland are slightly up & could theoretically leapfrog both Greens & LibDems in Scotland, some of which has to be related to the independence referendum later in the year. And there's presumably other smaller candidates like the left wing coalition No2EU, though they managed to finish below the Socialist Labour Party in 2009 because god forbid the left actually forms a united front for once in its life. So on one hand we won't be adding to the UK's shamefully large number of xenophobic reactionary MEPs and that's nice, but at the end of the day it's all still pro-austerity candidates which is frustrating and easy to see why people struggle to care. Oh well, lesser of a bunch of evils I suppose it is. I'd really like the Labour Party to come out against the EU in its current form, but then I'd like the Labour Party to do lots of things that it probably won't in my lifetime.
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Alecto posted:You can vote for people who will join Tsipras's bloc, who will work with him and support him, just like almost every democracy in the world. In the case of the Netherlands, the International Socialists and Socialist Alternative.
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May 1, 2014 13:57
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IceAgeComing posted:Based on a quick unscientific search: the closest to the EUL/NGL standing in Scotland is probably the No2EU lot, who are left-wing Eurosceptics: the RMT were involved at the last election, I'm not 100% sure who's involved in this one. Its also the only left party standing in Scotland, so its their own fault if they get no votes! I hadn't realised they were back again. From what I remember from the last EU elections they were a coalition of some trade unionists (I know Bob Crow & the RMT were big backers) and some of the panoply of leftists we have here, Tommy Sheridan was on the list time round, I remember that much. Ah well, probably worth an X, though I'll probably try find out a bit about their candidates before May 22nd.
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May 1, 2014 15:06
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Mans posted:Is it me or is Scotland much more to the left than the rest of the UK? But at the same time, every party in the Scottish Parliament is fairly liberal in their economic policy bar the 2 Green MSPs. There were a handful of socialists a decade ago, but their party dissolved into 2 and now nobody cares anymore. Which was a nuisance. And some of the SNP MSPs are fairly right wing, either economically or socially. My own MSP for instance, Fergus Ewing, voted against the bill for gay marriage, and he wasn't the only one, there's definitely a small but not insignificant socially conservative element to the party. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 11:47 on May 4, 2014 |
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May 4, 2014 00:17
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Alecto posted:Is there no chance of, faced with the prospect of Juncker's election, some of the GUE-NGL or the Greens voting for Schultz to put him over the top, or am I missing something? This is assuming of course that whomever the parliament selects will actually become commissioner, which seems at this point to be a bold one. Certainly in the UK at least the whole "voting for a Euro party" isn't even mentioned. You're voting UKIP, Tory, Labour or nationalist and that's the end of it. I haven't heard much (if any) mention of the idea that this election has any impact on the selection of the next commissioner.
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May 22, 2014 09:16
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Amused to Death posted:Yeah but look instead who won a whole bunch of seats He's aware, but as a fascist is totally OK with that.
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May 26, 2014 02:02
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awesome-express posted:holy poo poo people actually voted for UKIP Yes, but on the other hand the BNP vote collapsed. Though apparently Griffin said, when asked if this was a rejection of his party's racist policies, “They’ve voted for Ukip’s racist policies instead.”
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May 26, 2014 12:13
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De Nomolos posted:Just want to let you know I have family members here in the US now sharing stuff from Britain First. Apparently they have ties to BNP?
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May 27, 2014 13:52
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De Nomolos posted:Anyone got an article I can send? I try to genuinely like my family. Best I've found so far is this article from a Kent newspaper about a former BNP councillor & this from the Scottish paper Daily Record about a recent invasion of Glasgow's largest mosque and a bit on the head of the party, who is strongly linked to Unionist groups in Northern Ireland. But I'll ask a couple of friends who follow the neo-fascists a bit more closely than I do if they've anything better.
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May 27, 2014 15:04
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Teron D Amun posted:he should check his spelling first Yes, it's parodying the style of Britain First messages you see spread around Facebook. It's meant to have bad spelling and ignore that the Eurovision was one by a trans woman 19 years ago.
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May 27, 2014 18:13
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Well maybe if David Cameron wanted to have a say over who the largest bloc in the European Parliament chooses as the next President of the Commission he should have not left that bloc to form his own fringe group of loons & bigots.
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Jun 1, 2014 13:15
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Homeschooling is absolutely appalling. Parents being able to take their kids out of mainstream society and fill their heads with nonsense is actively harmful. Good on the countries that have banned it, shame it's only 8 of them.
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Aug 5, 2014 19:04
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Libluini posted:Hopefully, the UK has been one of the largest obstacles to a larger unification. Without their influence, we may be finally see the United States of Europe become a reality. Who knows, maybe we come back to the UK next century when they finally go crazy and try to take EU-Scotland by force. Please feel free to explain why you think that a USE is a good idea. Not because I don't think a case could be made for it, but living in the UK you never actually hear the case being made. I just suspect instinctively that there's little will for this among the people of Europe (as opposed to the politicians), the people of Germany are already stoppy about bailing out those southern Europeans so pray-tell, why would they be happier about being in a USE which consists of Greece & Portugal & Romania & Bulgaria & other countries which will need massive investments to bring them up to scratch with the more industrialised north.
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Nov 2, 2014 13:29
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GaussianCopula posted:It must be as harsh as is required so that no one has thoughts like this You're a hateful little shite, aren't you?
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May 5, 2015 10:31
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Oh, we're betting on the referendum? Then I'd say No by 2.1%
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Jul 5, 2015 14:47
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bronin posted:You are probably the biggest oval office on SA right now. Congratulations keep up the good work. It is impressive how many massive shitheads like him this thread attracts.
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Jul 5, 2015 21:03
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MeLKoR posted:The UK if everything goes according to plan but I already have a roomie. With breasts.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:27
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Riso posted:I look at ever increasing national debt and budget deficits and have to ask myself where all these austerity polices went.
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Oct 24, 2015 20:56
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GaussianCopula posted:So politicians actually having experience in the "real world" now counts as corruption? Working in a shop is the real world. Working as a mechanic is the real world. Shite, even being a full-time CEO is closer to the real world than the sort of slimy jobs for the boys that politicians end up taking from private companies, where they only have to turn up for 20 hours a year & someone get compensated 6 figures. In no way is that "real world".
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Oct 27, 2015 10:54
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GaussianCopula posted:Please tell me how to do that in an economically viable way and why they would succeed in the labor market against young Spaniards and Greeks who did not waste 5 years of their life in a civil war. Ah, so you're saying you'd be OK with them coming in if only they came 5 years ago, before there was a reason to let refugees in? Gotcha. You're a racist.
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Nov 16, 2015 12:10
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GaussianCopula posted:No, their solutions would probably include to send most of those refugees back, dismantle the EU and other stupid ideas that I can't think of of right now. If the whole EU takes in a certain number of refugees per year, that are not coming to the EU via safe 3rd party countries like Turkey, in an orderly fashion (registration, background checks, assigned to countries which they may not leave on their own volition to apply somewhere else etc.) the right-wing populists would have a much harder time while a certain number of refugees were still allowed in the EU. Hmmmm. And how, in these austere times, would you suggest Greece afford all these refugees? The comparison with the quarantine of Cuba during the Missile Crisis is such rubbish. The Soviet's turned back to avoid a nuclear war. What incentive would boats full of refugees have to turn back? Unless you are suggesting that the Hellenic Navy should be willing to sink boatloads of refugees fleeing ISIS? If you are you should say so plainly.
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Nov 25, 2015 14:51
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GaussianCopula posted:As for the Hellenic Navy, they should simply create a quarantine zone (e.g. between 2-5 km) and once they see a unregistered vessel entering this zone they contact it and tell them to leave this zone. If the vessel doesn't react they can first try to tow it back out of the quarantine zone, if that is not successful because of (armed) resistance, they sink it. Great, thanks, that was all I really expected. It is at least decent that you don't try to cover up your shitheeling but leave it clear in public for folk to see.
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Nov 25, 2015 15:34
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Cat Mattress posted:austerity + terrorism + pollution + refugees = gently caress democracy, it obviously doesn't work, we need a strong leader to bring back prosperity and eliminate the threats to our future Who could possibly have imagined that austerity would make people angry enough to vote for the far right? What a completely unforeseen outcome this is.
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Dec 3, 2015 22:35
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GaussianCopula posted:but now I'm the racist? That's not why you're a racist GC.
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Dec 9, 2015 23:14
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LemonDrizzle posted:I guess the only thing that could plausibly work would be a PSOE/Podemos minority with vote-by-vote backing from C's. Aside from the obvious centrist "social democrats" doing what comes naturally to them & toadying up to the right-wing party in a wonderful & inspirational coalition, anything to keep that austerity train a-rolling..
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Dec 21, 2015 00:32
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jonnypeh posted:I'll be sure to stick a pack of pork onto any halal meat shelf should those appear in my country. I want to see what happens. It's jolly nice to see a new racist shithead take over from GC so he can enjoy New Year singing Deutschland Über Alles with his pure Aryan family. But this act of charity aside, jonnypeh posted:The refugees wouldn't be that much of a problem if they quit that Islam-nonsense and all that it entails, hijab, no pork and all that. Because when in Rome do as the Romans. A few thousand (or even tens or a hundred thousand) are not going to destroy your homelands wonderful, rich, culture, whatever that be. How weak is this rich culture of yours? Might even improve things a little by ringing the xenophobic poo poo out of it. But that's probably too much to ask because idiots do like to hold on to that poo poo like it's going out of style (which...well, it did. 70 years ago)
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Jan 1, 2016 12:54
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Riso posted:You know guys, if white people are truly the worst on the world, I think it is best we should put them into their own country. To make sure no whites can escape to do damage to the world it shall be walled off so the rest of mankind is able to live free from oppression. Yes, being in favour of not treating refugees like excrement is exactly the same as hating all white people. I don't hate all white people, just the ones who think the "white race" is anything to shout home about.
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Jan 2, 2016 00:25
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Randler posted:German EU commissioner Oettinger announces plans to put Poland under monitoring, due to their recent change in government. What are they going to do, run to Russia?
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Jan 3, 2016 14:37
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ChainsawCharlie posted:Thats why people voted for Hitler,they were voting for his ironic mustache. Jeremy Corbyn would like a very polite word over a cup of tea, with sandwiches filled with home-made jam.
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Jan 5, 2016 14:57
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shrike82 posted:Yikes Presumably because they don't actually arrest anyone for corruption in Italy.
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Jan 8, 2016 14:21
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GaussianCopula posted:So apparently the Paris attacker from a few days ago was registered as a refugee (actually under 4 names) in Germany and lived in a refugee home in NRW. I'm sure you'll manage to make something up.
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Jan 10, 2016 12:04
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That'll be why the Yanks keep saying "hey Britain, don't leave the EU you loving idiots". Although actually we could do more to disrupt the EU as a member than out of it.double nine posted:To me, whatever deal Cameron strikes at the end of the week seems irrelevant - the UK has been anti-EU for a long time in the tabloids, and from the outside looking in the anti-eu sentiment seems more easily mobilized than the pro-eu people. What I'm saying is from where I stand any referendum will end in the UK leaving the EU.
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Sri.Theo posted:How on earth do you think your comments are useful without knowing the slightest thing about the EU? It's his entire boring gimmick. It's not worth acknowledging.
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