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Jun 1, 2006

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Veskit posted:

I didn't know that was a direct Pronger quote. gently caress I miss that guy. I hope he goes into coaching.

That's Dr. Pronger, physics PHD

ChairmanMeow posted:

Awesome OP,OP. I'm happy we have a hockey thread!
I hope I get to hang around to the end. I just saw my penguins lose the last regular season game in OT though. At least we are going in healthy!
Good Luck every one!

Come on down to SAS, hockey threads as far as the eye can see! We love to poo poopost about hockey.

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Jun 1, 2006

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the posted:

I may be misremembering it then. They do get less minutes and less pay, though, right?

Yeah, because they aren't really high skill players. They go out when they need to bring the pain, and sit on the bench when they don't.

Watch the really good documentary comedy film Goon for a kind of idea of the role a goon plays on a hockey team. It's also just a fun movie, so watch it even if you don't give a poo poo.

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Jun 1, 2006

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ll4m4z posted:

So you're telling me that I shouldn't expect the Sabres to make me happy again when the Bills suck terribly next year? Buffalo is truly sports hell.

The sabres this year were one of the worst teams of all time. If it wasn't for their goalie Ryan Miller (who was traded and immediately given a starting position in one of the top teams in the league), they would have undoubtably been the worst. It's gonna be a while before they build up enough to be passable.

THEN AGAIN: Everyone in the world was expecting colorado to be a dumpster fire this year, and they are now one of the favorites for the cup. So you never know. Especially if they get Connor McDavid. Wait and see.

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Jun 1, 2006

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Lawnie posted:

Colorado is a complete flash in the pan in my opinion. Fourth-worst possession team in the league propped up by unsustainably good shooting and goaltending. Often, an entire season isn't enough of a sample for teams to perform as expected by their possession numbers. Once Colorado runs into Chicago or St. Louis next round, they're probably screwed. Both those teams are significantly better than Colorado, possession-wise.

Austrian mook posted:

I don't know who's considering Colorado for the cup, because they're silly.

I'm just saying that people have been saying they'd crash and burn any week now for like 3 months, yet they continued to win. They had a strong regular season finish, and I wouldn't be surprised if they had a good playoff run. I feel like a leafs fancy stat denier, but they haven't collapsed yet. We'll see.

Regardless of your complaining about my views, this is really not relevant to the point I made in my post.

I was saying that almost everything about the avalanche told us in the pre-season that they'd be awful, and they pulled off a very entertaining season. So keep some hope, sabres fans! Hockey is a crazy game

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Jun 1, 2006

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Again, my post was about how its not impossible that the sabres could have an entertaining season, not an argument about the goodness of colorado. As a thread that's trying to get casual fans interested in hockey, this discussion is counterproductive, because it's quickly becoming inaccessible.

We can keep talking about this in the n/v thread if you want, but we should probably leave it be for this thread.

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Jun 1, 2006

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I got a question.

What's with the references to Evil Waldo that have been floating around the n/v thread? I remember him as a poster/ know he hasn't been around in a while, but I wasn't posting when whatever people are referring to happened and I don't get it

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Jun 1, 2006

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Aphrodite posted:

He was responding to someone complaining about the Flyers and said that just complaining on the forums does nothing, and quoted some tweets he had made to them about how Giroux should have his C taken away and stuff.

People called him out on how dumb that is, and he said that he has been a "thorn in the side of management on twitter" and that he heard from an inside source that he has been labelled a "disgruntled fan".

Oh man, that's great.

Truly he was the waldo Most Evil

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Jun 1, 2006

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Aphrodite posted:

Here's the series of posts. It's in archives.

He's responding to some general complaining about the Philly media and Giroux. This was back when Giroux wasn't scoring.





(A ton of people laughing at him)

And then he disappeared????

HARTNELLLLLLLLLL

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Jun 1, 2006

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And to be fair, almost every team in the nhl was bad at some point over the last 10 years. The lifetime for teams is build, develop, be good, get really old, be awful, rebuild.

The difference is that the always awful teams don't handle the rebuild and develop phases very well. It's a pretty strategic part of the lifetime and bad gms are reaaaally bad at it.

On the other hand there's teams that handle everything really well, and are almost always pretty good like Detroit, who've made the playoffs since 1990. They are getting pretty old though and were more shaky this season than I can remember seeing them, so we might see a true rebuild in Detroit not to far down the road.

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Jun 1, 2006

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Aphrodite posted:

He's not a good goalie.

Bad goalies can have a good season. He did, and Pittsburgh refuses to see it.

To be fair,he looked like he was really good at times. He was drafted first overall. He played fuckin awesome in the QMJHL. It seems like he's a goalie who really just doesn't handle pressure well. It's not as simple as "he's a bad goalie", more so "he's not a great goalie anymore"

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Jun 1, 2006

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Pornographic Memory posted:

Thanks for the answers guys. I haven't really followed hockey much until I came across the first playoff game midway through and figured now's as good a time as ever to get into it, since I've always thought it was a cool sport and just never committed to watching it regularly. Being the local team of course I'm watching the Pens. For some reason my mother really likes Fleury and I had no idea why, but I guess maybe the sympathy factor would make sense. Or just because she's a fanatical Pens fan and he's the Pens goalie :v:

Fleury's rep is also largely due to the fact that he's the weak link on an otherwise pretty strong team. And also that team has some of the most vocal fans out of all (american) teams. If fleury played exactly as he did for 75% of the teams in the nhl, you'd almost never hear his name. He gets a lot of flak because he's in the spotlight and when poo poo hits the fan and he does something stupid, pens fans have someone to pile on.

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Jun 1, 2006

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Admiral Goodenough posted:

Can I put in a general request for more amazing anecdotes like that? Maybe like your personal favorite story/player from your team?

Milan Lucic is so hated by his hometown of Vancouver that dudes tried to fight him when he made an appearance at a greek festival near his parents house, and also someone vandalized his families church with hockey-related graffiti

He has said he's "through defending them" and "you'll never see me in downtown vancouver again, except for games"

Basically he's like a vat of acid away from a supervillain origin story.

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