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Mirthless posted:I think the #1 reason there isn't a push to unionize among hourly IT positions is because most of them can be shipped to India, Costa Rica or Romania tomorrow, and the only thing it's going to upset in the grand scheme of things is the sensibility of the jingoist racists who work for you or your client. Automation, simplification of computer systems and "the cloud" have made helpdesk and to a lesser extent deskside support into a job where you teach people how to navigate menus. Everybody wants better pay but hourly IT jobs probably won't exist at all inside of ten years and those of us who haven't had the chance to jump to salary yet aren't in any rush to speed up the process. Isn't the point of unions unskilled laborers who can easily be replaced organizing for job security and that kinda poo poo?
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Peven Stan posted:You guys are idiots and white collar workers are unionized in a buttload of western european nations. A professor pal of mine is a social scientist in germany and her contract is a union one. However, that is a situation where a corporatist model is basically forced on employers and employees to make them play nice together by the state. I don't understand why their arn't more unions like that in america.
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wateroverfire posted:Probably not. The resentment (some justified, mostly not) and angst that employers would have to deal with would not in any way be worth it. Not to mention employees do not all have the same incentives on this issue and many would probably prefer their pay not be made public. The reason you change jobs in the first place is more money, why would knowing how much you get paid change that?
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Apr 17, 2014 13:25
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wateroverfire posted:I'm not sure what you mean. The reason people change jobs is that a company is willing to pay them more than their previous job. The worker wouldn't leave if the price the company was willing to pay for their labor wasn't more than what the worker is already getting.
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