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Even if this is 4 with a shiny new coat of paint on it I will play the poo poo out of it.
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Deadmeat5150 posted:Even if this is 4 with a shiny new coat of paint on it I will play the poo poo out of it. Pretty much. My mind knows that Tropico 4 was a quick cash in with most of what seperates it from Tropico 3 being dlc, but my heart loves it anyway. I'm just hoping that each of the 4 eras will at least be on par with Modern Times in terms of unique buildings and such.
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May 6, 2014 04:03
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Maybe you can force revolutions on friends in multiplayer?
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May 6, 2014 06:01
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Nah, Tropico 4 was more than a mere cash-in. It was a refinement. Most of the basic buildings may have been the same but they added in a ton of little things like all the faction leaders, mini-quests, Modern Times' stuff and upgradeable traits. What they added in was, essentially, stuff that kept the game fresh even on repeat plays.
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May 6, 2014 06:20
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Things I'd like the new game to do to improve the political simulation. Make factions actually organize, they should hold meeting, vigils, random protests and a strong communist faction should be able to push up wages. If a faction member watches another member get assassinated or the faction leader gets arrested this should trigger immediate protests. Importing goods and specialists should increase the liberty pushback. Specialists should be prone to leaving if they don't like it on your island, if you prevent them from leaving with no emigration policies this should lower your relations with the powers. Make living standards affect the birth rate. Dirt poor farmers should have more kids and a richer society should have a lower birth rate. Allow schools and other underground services to pop up similar to shacks. If your healthcare sucks don't be surprised if witch doctors become a thing. Make the day/night cycle actually matter. People should work on a goddamn schedule. Demiurge4 fucked around with this message at 06:27 on May 6, 2014 |
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May 6, 2014 06:24
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Speedball posted:Nah, Tropico 4 was more than a mere cash-in. It was a refinement. Most of the basic buildings may have been the same but they added in a ton of little things like all the faction leaders, mini-quests, Modern Times' stuff and upgradeable traits. What they added in was, essentially, stuff that kept the game fresh even on repeat plays. Agreed. It'd be nice if the Tropico series followed a few others and gave you a discount if you owned a previous entry, just to avoid it feeling like you bought the same game with slightly more paint, though.
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May 6, 2014 06:27
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From that German video from earlier, I'm actually kinda bummed that the road is stuck on the grid as well. I mean, it wouldn't make sense for it not to, but fuuuuck me if I didn't love to make winding roads across my island for that "carved out" look or just trying to make a road around my volcano at impassable road grades.
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May 6, 2014 06:37
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Deputy Dangerous posted:From that German video from earlier, I'm actually kinda bummed that the road is stuck on the grid as well. I mean, it wouldn't make sense for it not to, but fuuuuck me if I didn't love to make winding roads across my island for that "carved out" look or just trying to make a road around my volcano at impassable road grades. You can, can't you? the video has curved roads in it.
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May 6, 2014 18:09
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Yeah the roads in tropico were always free-form but snap to 90 when needed at the ends. Unless you have procedurally generated form-fitting buildings you pretty much have to do that or you get into bullshit like Simcity2013 or Cities XL where you have square buildings trying to conform to curved non-grid roads so gently caress you you can't build that building there because the road is 0.05 degrees off. Developers need to gently caress off with the spline roads until they figure out non tile based buildings. At least tropico gave us lots of tiny details to fill the ugly spaces between buildings.
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May 6, 2014 18:47
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Holding shift disables the snap-to, by the way. What I wish Tropico had was a way to lay concrete. I really don't mind all the square buildings not fitting adjacent to my curvy roads but all the dirt and grass patches in my maze of concrete is an eyesore and I don't want to spend the time laying down trees and shrubs just for the 3x3 square of concrete they add. Just let me throw down a blanket of concrete!
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May 6, 2014 20:43
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That would be so nice. I often found my self doing exactly that: just laying down a fountain or statue or something just for the concrete. \/ Yep, cities XL did a lot of things right, or planned on doing a lot of things right, or sort of tried to do some things right... Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 21:25 on May 6, 2014 |
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May 6, 2014 20:53
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That's one thing CitiesXL did right: pick from different types of filler terrain to plop down into those spots. Parks, concrete, whatever (I think that was CitiesXL). Anyway some of the pictures that show up on google images when you search for Tropico 5 are pretty neat looking. Definitely doesn't just look like a new coat of paint although they are also definitely preserving the art style (which I like).   
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May 6, 2014 21:23
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It's still the exact same engine and base game though. It's just new building models and a coat of paint on the interface. That won't bother me though if the gameplay is significantly improved. Hell just tropico 4 with some new buildings and an actual challenge from the factions would be an instant buy for me.
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May 6, 2014 21:33
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Upper right corner... Missiles. I think I know what the multiplayer is now. A lovely RTS  Please don't disappoint us Kalypso!On the second picture, it looks like areas have been filled in with concrete, so there is hope. A bit over the middle, what looks like a domed building with a concrete area next to it, with some trees. Thought it might just be the trees that made the concrete...
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May 6, 2014 21:35
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Yeah I don't mind either, I'm just glad they updated the graphics a bit that's all. As long as the gameplay is the same or better than T4 I'll be all over it.Dunno-Lars posted:Upper right corner... Missiles. I think I know what the multiplayer is now. A lovely RTS Hopefully not There were launching missiles in the last game, too.Although it could be fun if the army is able to get micro'd. Both players start building on the same island, eventually they run out of space or resources and declare war on the other. Sounds like a lot of extra programming work though.
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May 6, 2014 21:35
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Oh here's another tiny one I could use: a way to select more than one building at a time so that I can add a/c to my apartment buildings without developing RSI.
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May 7, 2014 03:23
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Some dude compiled a list of new features: http://tropicofive.blogspot.ca/2014/05/tropico-5-new-features-round-up.html
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May 7, 2014 07:33
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It's odd how there's barely any gameplay vids to be found for a game that's launching in two weeks. I'm very intrigued, but I'd like to know a lot more about the game. The only thing that's really stuck out for me so far is farms with field grids, so you can place them closer together without having to guesstimate where the game will choose to put the fields.
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May 7, 2014 17:31
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Did 3 and 4 really have much videos either? I only really noticed Modern Times and DLC getting attention.
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I don't remember 3 or 4 having much in the way of videos at all. It was mostly just screenshots.
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May 7, 2014 19:31
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Any word on whether Tropico 5 will continue the trend of bizarrely gendered professions?
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May 7, 2014 22:46
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Just pre-ordered 5 today. Hopefully I will not regret this decision.
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Kilonum posted:Just pre-ordered 5 today. Trip reports and first impressions asap please! Been burned by to many games by now to pre order anything, so I need those trip reports! I want the game...
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May 8, 2014 05:42
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It's still due to be out two weeks from now, dude. We'll probably get a bit more press by then.
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May 8, 2014 05:43
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Croccers posted:Did 3 and 4 really have much videos either? I only really noticed Modern Times and DLC getting attention. Not that I can recall, but it's odd for a game to come out of an established studio in this day and age with so little PR.
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Speedball posted:Nah, Tropico 4 was more than a mere cash-in. It was a refinement. Most of the basic buildings may have been the same but they added in a ton of little things like all the faction leaders, mini-quests, Modern Times' stuff and upgradeable traits. What they added in was, essentially, stuff that kept the game fresh even on repeat plays. And it had an amazing campaign mode with those faction leaders. All 3 had was Juanito.
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Dunno-Lars posted:Trip reports and first impressions asap please!  The only thing we "know" is that it's going to be a bigger step from 4 than what 4 was from 3.
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May 8, 2014 11:41
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Jolan posted:Not that I can recall, but it's odd for a game to come out of an established studio in this day and age with so little PR. I wonder if most of their sales are in Europe? They often seem to have a lot more German PR than English. It is really weird though. Their website doesn't even mention Tropico 5. http://www.worldoftropico.com/us/
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May 8, 2014 11:41
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Simulation games always sell better in Europe and in Germany especially. It's just one of those divides like xbox being more popular in the US and PLaystation being more popular here.
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May 8, 2014 12:10
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Germany is insane with sims. It's where poo poo like Farming Simulator and Bus Simulator make bank.
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May 8, 2014 12:12
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Guess we're just better at appreciating relaxing things. Also Euro Truck Simulator 2 is a great game 
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May 8, 2014 12:16
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I've no idea how to organize this, but anyone interested in buying a 4pack?
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May 8, 2014 15:17
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Beartaco posted:All 3 had was Juanito. Hellllooooooo Tropico! 
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May 8, 2014 16:50
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Also you could go all  on Juanito if you wanted to.
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I like Juanito.
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May 9, 2014 00:56
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The only time I was unhappy with Juantio is when he killed JFK.
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May 9, 2014 01:05
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Multiplayer trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8szb0S1hUbQ All it shows is that you can trade and fight each other.
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Looks better then I expected.
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May 9, 2014 14:36
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But those castle towers look completely out of place.
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Poil posted:But those castle towers look completely out of place. Nonsense, this is Tropico! El Presidente built those with his own two hands in defense of our glorious country!
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