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madmac posted:Hehe. Yeah but there won't be anything as depressing as the amnesia part of Scrapped Princess, I think anyway. Also technically in Scrapped Princess they were D-Knights versus Chaika's Dragoon Cavaliers. Potato, Potahto, I know.
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Jun 26, 2014 07:33
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paragon1 posted:How will the Reconstruction Bureau guys experience a close, comfortable shave now? I bet they'll show up with beards in season two. You son of a bitch  Reminder that Chaika lifts and ain't nothin' to gently caress with.  (Spoiler for the slight spoiler) (Spoiler.)
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Zeruel posted:You son of a bitch And then she dropped a floater in the pool. I love this stupid show. I look forward to more  next season.
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Jun 26, 2014 08:13
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Toru = tool. Mind blown
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Hell of a ending for the first season. I have a feeling that unless there's something else really outstanding in the fall, this is going to be my non-JoJo nomination for best show of the year.
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That episode was great stuff. Can't wait for season 2. What this series rules at is its action scene direction and the way that the characters aren't stupid. OK, Chaika is naive, but that's an intentional character trait, not something that everybody has. About Vivi, what I really want to know is whether she was an incognitio Chaika all along, or if she's simply turned into one and wasn't one before. "I'm sorry, team, but Vivi just caught a bad case of the Chaikas. The odds of recovery are low." Could it be contagious, or might it be that there's a set number of Chaikas and that Layla's probable death meant there was an opening for a new one? Her eye and hair colour both changed, so it may make more sense if she's a new Chaika who just transformed. Otherwise, it would have to mean that the trauma of Gilette's death was so great that it overpowered her hair dye and contact lenses.
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Eej posted:That last knife fight perfectly encapsulates the fighting direction of this show. According to /a/, it was much longer in the book and he turned into a manspider halfway through. I cannot express just how happy I am that the show decided to go this way with it instead. Really great ending to what was probably the best non-Ping Pong, non-Mushishi show of the season. Really looking forward to October.
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Autonomous Monster posted:According to /a/, it was much longer in the book and he turned into a manspider halfway through. That would have been immensely stupid. A lot of shows just drop the ball on the ending but this wasn't one of them, though it helps that it's not getting an anime-original ending. As for Vivi I guess all those Chaika photoshops are canon now.
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Interesting to see that it was the dumbass warmongering general who ended up effectively ending the villains' plans and saving millions of lives. Normally, his sort of character just make things worse for the good guys.
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That was a fun show. Ricardo didn't have much of a plan, besides going Herostratus on the world. Baby, you ain't even in the same category as Gaz. Gaz knew how to use power, Ricardo was just a lovely wannabe. And it looks like Chaika is less a vat grown head sown onto a severed stomp, and more like a magical parasite that bodyjacks the unlucky. So just how did that happen? Does guy have a magic wand that fires a chaikamind at people in a fragile emotional state? More thoughts. This show really likes to class its characters under certain definitions. Saboteur. Cavalier. Wizardo. It is so explicit that it seems almost artificial. What I think the show is trying to say is that these kinds of arbitrary definitions are harmful. The stereotypes pervade and consume the characters with self-doubt. Cavaliers are supposed to be utterly righteous, and it Gillette is so concerned if his unsheathed sword is or is not on the side of "justice", that he throws away his life and honour for some pissant rebellion. What the hell was he expecting, raising his sword against an army for the sake of his direct underlings? Obstructing a military action can potentially endanger even more lives. That belligerent general was right in the end, his simple-minded brutality saved alot of lives from a rebellious vassal. What about Tohru? He needs to constantly reinforce to himself that he is a saboteur, and has to explicitly speak out a mantra in order to enter the platonic ideal of the saboteur. But just what a saboteur is continually eats at him. But his personality is more of a knight or a protector than a ruthlessly loyal killer. When Tohru told Nicolai that he wouldn't really care if a war started, it sounded less like that was what he really wanted, and more like petulance at someone who would dare deny him a liege lord. Tohru is an excellent tactician, but he wants someone else to make the big strategic decisions for him. When Frederica offered him a choice to class switch, his responses really kicks off some gears in his head. He says that he'll consider it, but he knows that Frederica offers him a role that he truly wants.
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Phobophilia posted:When Frederica offered him a choice to class switch, his responses really kicks off some gears in his head. He says that he'll consider it, but he knows that Frederica offers him a role that he truly wants.
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I really liked the episode where we saw him getting trained, and his mentor was just like "no you suck at this", even as his physical capabilities improved. It was really interesting to see a show play around with the concept of not being mentally correct for a role, even if you are technically competent.
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I think we're all missing the most important question here. What colour Chaika is Vivi?
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Darth Walrus posted:I think we're all missing the most important question here. What colour Chaika is Vivi? Obviously purple Chaika. For high class and nobility fitting of an officer. It could also be black for mourning but that would be like every Chaika.
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Van Dine posted:That episode was great stuff. Can't wait for season 2. What this series rules at is its action scene direction and the way that the characters aren't stupid. OK, Chaika is naive, but that's an intentional character trait, not something that everybody has. She didn't have the giant eyebrows before.
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Vivi turning into a Chaika is probably directly induced by Guy. There are even two Guys at once right behind Gilette before the beam hits. So no plucked eyebrows.
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Squidster posted:That little scream she made as she bursts out is just perfect. IIRC the LN describes it as basically a kind of self-hypnosis. Lowers pain response and partially releases the limiters a human body is normally under. It basically weaponises the phenomenon of people puling off normally impossible for them things in exceptional situations. Think a comparatively petite woman suddenly tearing a jammed door of its hinges to save her baby from a burning building or the like; just somewhat less extreme and far more controllable. The effect is functionally increased reflexes, senses, strenght, speed and partial immunity against pain and exhaustion. The problem being that it's very tiring to do for a long time and potentially dangerous because if you don't pay attention, it becomes really easy to accidentally hurt yourself. The human body isn't exactly set up to run at that level normally and it becomes a real danger that you can do things like dislocate your shoulder just by swinging a weapon too hard or push yourself so far in endurance terms that you do real damage to your muscles.
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Basically watched this show in 3 sittings. Liked it a lot! Especially how a lot of names are derived from cars. I mean. I guess the most pleasant surprise was that characters weren't caricatures, it was easy to paint Toru as an angsty guy given his past, but nope, he's actually pretty cool. And unlike Pacifica from Scrapped Princess, Chaika never grated on my nerves.
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Wow that was some episode, it was awesome but I wish I had waited for the /co/mrade stream. Either way looking forward to S2.
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Dragon Cavalier Tohru would be  as gently caress. Amazing season. Eagerly waiting for S2.
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Im surprised with just how consistent this show was. Like at first I thought they just couldn't keep it up without screwing something up, and god knows they flirted with some really dangerous grounds that could have easily turned the anime into poo poo. But everything turned out great! The cast was really competent in their own particular ways, the world was built in a way that the reveals in the last episodes made sense, the ending teases just enough to keep people interested in the next season. The only faults I have with the show is the rather unremarkable soundtrack, so hopefully the show does well enough that they can get a good composer for season 2.
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Enjoyable end to an enjoyable season, and looking forward to the next. Animation seemed pretty wonky in this episode (character faces, etc), though, and it had a strangely rushed feeling to it. Came here hoping I was the only one to notice the clones behind Gilette at the moment of "death", but nope. 
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darkgray posted:Enjoyable end to an enjoyable season, and looking forward to the next. Animation seemed pretty wonky in this episode (character faces, etc), though, and it had a strangely rushed feeling to it. Came here hoping I was the only one to notice the clones behind Gilette at the moment of "death", but nope.  And about your spoiler, i didn't notice it until it was pointed out in here, even if I assumed he wasn't dead anyway since there was no corpse shown; sure wasn't expecting Vivi to turn into/have been a Chaika all along though. .The Black Stones posted:That needs to be a gif so bad. 
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One of the reasons why I still watch this show(It isn't bad at all).
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Schneider Heim posted:Basically watched this show in 3 sittings. Liked it a lot! Especially how a lot of names are derived from cars. I mean. They named a town Acura this episode. I doubt anyone missed that, either here or in Japan.
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I'm sure a ton of people missed it in Japan considering Acura doesn't exist in Japan. I'm pretty sure the majority of the vehicle manufacturers in this show would be obscure to the average Japanese viewer. e: wow, Dominica Skoda (Dragoon Cavalier) in the LN dies of a broken heart after her little sister gets murdered in a messed up attempt at extorting Dominica. That's certainly a change in tone from "well I got sick and died". Eej fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Jul 2, 2014 |
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I guess they figured things would get dark enough in the show already, but that does fit better into the theme of the heroes that killed Gaz getting hosed over after the war.
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Everyone has already said why this show's so great, so I'm just going to chime in and agree that this is the best show of the year so far, and that was a Hell of a last episode. Out of everything, though, Vivi Chaika-fying in her moment of shock was the most surprising twist. It's going to be really interesting to see how her comrades handle both this and their leader's apparent death. Let's not forget there's still another confirmed Chaika out there, running around with her own sidekicks. Chaika in a nutshell.
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Eej posted:I'm sure a ton of people missed it in Japan considering Acura doesn't exist in Japan. I'm pretty sure the majority of the vehicle manufacturers in this show would be obscure to the average Japanese viewer. Wait, really? Since Honda is the parent company, I assumed Acuras would be wherever Hondas are. Or are Hondas not sold in Japan either and I have this completely wrong?
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You'd be surprised how many car companies sell vehicles overseas that they don't make available in their home country.
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Acura exists in North America (US/CA/Mexico), China and Hong Kong. What you call the Acura NSX was actually the Honda NSX in Japan. The Acura TSX is actually the Japanese model of the Honda Accord, while the North American Honda Accord is based off the Honda Inspire. At no point in time are Japanese people actually going to see the name Acura in their own country.
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No more fun fantasy to watch on Wednesdays. Bah. Ah well, there's still UQ Holder.
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Car branding can be really strange. Opel is a subsidiary of GM, and is their main brand in Europe, but in England they're branded as Vauxhalls, they were long sold as Saturns in the US until GM disbanded Saturn, and they're now sold in the US as Buicks. There was even a period when Isuzus were sold in the US under the Opel badge though they had no mechanical/design relationship to the other cars with that badge.
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C.M. Kruger posted:Hell of a ending for the first season. I have a feeling that unless there's something else really outstanding in the fall, this is going to be my non-JoJo nomination for best show of the year. Sounds like someone didn't watch Ping Pong  Still, for someone who didn't watch Jojo (but probably will eventually) this is easily my second favorite show this year. So far.
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a kitten posted:And about your spoiler, i didn't notice it until it was pointed out in here, even if I assumed he wasn't dead anyway since there was no corpse shown; sure wasn't expecting Vivi to turn into/have been a Chaika all along though. Regarding Gillette and his two friends before he got vaporized, perhaps he's another version of Guy, he just didn't know?
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Everyone in the world is secretly either a Guy or a Chaika, but even they themselves don't know it.
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So did we ever figure out why the white Chaika is the only one without fluency in the common language? All the others are very fluent, but the white one only can only speak haltingly. She's also the only one we've met that's naive to the point that it strains belief but that's a common failing of main characters. edit: Nevermind, I'd forgotten the red one had the same speech issues. I guess that makes Vivi and the blue one the only ones with fluency. Desuwa fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Jul 6, 2014 |
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