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Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

google "The Night Witches", and prepare for :stare:

Jarmak posted:

Interesting.... is it possible this backdoor in Obamacare could actually end up being the health care reform we actually needed by making funding available for states to do the right thing on their own?

No, because the federal money in no way would be enough to cover it, states would have to raise taxes be quite a bit, and that's always unpopular. Also Vermont is white as snow with a very low and rural population, normal rules of American politics don't apply.

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Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

google "The Night Witches", and prepare for :stare:

Choadmaster posted:

Going to an ER in any major city without something immediately life-threatening is going to take hours unless you're lucky.

Yup. I broke my wrist when I was in 5th grade and the ER took near 5 hours to finally see someone and get a cast put on. On a plus side though in the waiting room I got to see Mark McGwire break some kind of season home run record or something.

Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

google "The Night Witches", and prepare for :stare:

Fat Ogre posted:

I was talking about engaging in voluntary activities known to be dangerous without insurance.

No, you aren't. Jesus christ skiing in the general sense isn't "dangerous"(obviously there are trails where it can be). It's dangerous in the sense almost everything has some kind of danger. People generally don't bring their kids for day trips though to dangerous activities. I mean you may as well harp on me for riding my bike to work with no insurance when I could just take the bus. Then again you in fact did put out riding a stationary bike over an actual bike because it's less dangerous.

Nessus posted:

America, presumably.

Yeah, like the entire 1/2 of the country that didn't expand Medicaid(and the other 1/2 only came into effect a few months ago, beforehand unless you were totally destitute or had kids, you weren't getting Medicaid)

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