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YamiNoSenshi posted:Between that and Captain Bravo being right about what Rufus does with the cash, I'm starting to think you've all played this already. Oh god, noooo! Really?  Edit: Just watched the latest episode, yep. Rufus, you are terrible. Captain Bravo fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Jul 16, 2014 |
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Deponia: where lowest common predictions are correct
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Jul 16, 2014 04:18
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Jul 20, 2014 23:47
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Doc and Bozo trying to hide Goal was pretty hilarious there. Also these clowns really did need to do a Scooby-Doo door sequence sooner or later.
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Jul 21, 2014 07:46
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So how does the door puzzle work? Everyone follows a set pattern and you choosing a door changes the time spent?
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Jul 21, 2014 08:50
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anilEhilated posted:So how does the door puzzle work? Everyone follows a set pattern and you choosing a door changes the time spent? Seems like it counts the number of transitions needed to get from one to the other. So taking the stairs gets you to the heater room, which then transitions back to the hallway. Two time segments. Room 9 requires going out the window, then moving to Room 3, then entering the hallway. Three time segments. And the rooms with no exits are just enter and leave, so one time segment.
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Jul 21, 2014 10:42
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Captain Bravo posted:Seems like it counts the number of transitions needed to get from one to the other. So taking the stairs gets you to the heater room, which then transitions back to the hallway. Two time segments. Room 9 requires going out the window, then moving to Room 3, then entering the hallway. Three time segments. And the rooms with no exits are just enter and leave, so one time segment. Some of the characters will also stop to talk to Rufus, chase him, or beat the tar out of him in Donna's case.
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Jul 21, 2014 13:44
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Somebody in the Youtube comments mentioned that you can watched Cletus eat his gourmet dinner. I assumed you'd just get a generic "I can't go in there" message. Shows what I know. I thought it was worth showing, so here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwq6SzQdzeM
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Jul 21, 2014 23:24
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Finally time to get out of this dumb hotel! Deponia is great and all but this segment was pretty dull.
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Jul 22, 2014 01:50
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This episode has my favorite character and my most hated puzzle. Still no new platypodes. 
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Jul 30, 2014 03:43
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Near the start of the episode, right after Rufus considered letting Deponia blow up, I managed to sigh "Rufus" at exactly the same time as Goal did. It's rather worrying that I'm getting to the point of reacting to Rufus the same way the characters do.
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Jul 30, 2014 06:34
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Before the next update you might want to consider showing of the tutorials of the game. For context.
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Jul 30, 2014 07:57
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Air is lava! posted:Before the next update you might want to consider showing of the tutorials of the game. Good point. They're up as bonus episodes, but I'll probably add in a note saying you should watch at least one. The start of the next chapter isn't nearly as funny without them.
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Jul 30, 2014 13:16
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Can't really blame you for skipping the camera puzzle the first time around, that thing looks obnoxious as hell. The coffee trail sequence is pretty drat cool though.
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Jul 30, 2014 13:18
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There are enough good sequences/puzzles in thr trilogy for at least one really good game if it was pared down, possibly two. Three games just meant a lot of useless filler.
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Jul 30, 2014 13:45
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Sometimes it kind of feels like they came up with the puzzles first and then wrote a plot to go around them, honestly. See also: previous comments re: Rufus' character development.
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Jul 30, 2014 20:09
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Rufus's little letter-opener poetry was really the highlight of that episode for me.
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Aug 8, 2014 02:00
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I've got my real life friends bugging me for new episodes, so I guess it's time to actually work on this thing.  
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Aug 20, 2014 12:18
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Ah yes, USE baseball bat WITH cloning device. That old adventure games cliché. The fire playtypus seems oddly mundane, compared to the rest.
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Aug 20, 2014 13:40
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Air is lava! posted:Ah yes, USE baseball bat WITH cloning device. That old adventure games cliché. I'm pretty sure it's just the same design as the fire platypus from the last game. Speaking of which the water platypus always kind of baffled me. Surely all platypi are water platypi unless otherwise noted?
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Aug 20, 2014 21:58
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Even knowing he's a clone with stunted empathy really does not change how much I like Rufas. Though, if Goal is really dead, who wants to bet we screw up cloning her somehow?
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Aug 21, 2014 06:27
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SystemLogoff posted:who wants to bet we screw up cloning her somehow? Oh god, this post, combined with the guy explaining very carefully how those tanks behind him (the tanks Rufus is about to smash) control aging, have "B-B-BABY GOAL" stuck in my head all over again.
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Aug 21, 2014 09:03
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It's... actually really dark, thinking that Rufus won't ever learn from his mistakes. Like, even this. Even screwing up so hard that he wants to die, he will still not learn from, because he can't.
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Aug 23, 2014 04:41
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I really want to like these games, the setting is sorta interesting and the art is tolerable. But I just cannot stop hating the main character, to the point where I begin to hate the game. We are not supposed to like him correct?
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Aug 23, 2014 04:46
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Have to give them props for the last plot twist, didn't see it coming and it explains quite a lot. Still have to wonder how Rufus ended on Deponia, though. And no, I don't think we're supposed to like him, definitely at this point. He's essentially a parody of an adventure game protagonist, good as a stab at the genre but in order to make that work he pretty much has to be a complete rear end in a top hat.
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anilEhilated posted:Have to give them props for the last plot twist, didn't see it coming and it explains quite a lot. Still have to wonder how Rufus ended on Deponia, though. Well, I mean the cloning station is on Deponia, and it was used to create the Organon, who are based on Deponia. If anything, I'd say the real question is how did Cletus end up on Elysium? Also, I could have sworn in one of the earlier games they said the Organon were robots. Is that a kind of retcon, or is there an explanation for that?
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Aug 23, 2014 17:15
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This episode brought to you by the power going out every time I tried to render it. Oh my goodness look at the chubby little platypus.  
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Sep 5, 2014 00:04
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I got to say, Rufus is getting a lot more enjoyable as a character as he gets closer to rock bottom. I suppose it's because when everything is broken and busted, he can still do the one thing he's good at, puzzle solving his way out of everything.
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Sep 5, 2014 00:50
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Great. Now with three Rufuses (Rufii?), not only is Deponia doomed, but they'll probably find a way to destroy Elysium and its destination planet at the same time.
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Oh come on, why would you grind up the original Rufus just to recreate him? Why wouldn't you just kick Hermes into the machine and then clone two additional Rufii? (Also, I'm disappointed in the game for bringing back Baby Goal. Never have I been so depressed to be proven right.)
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And that's how a vampire platypus saved Deponia.
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Sep 5, 2014 11:22
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Captain Bravo posted:Oh come on, why would you grind up the original Rufus just to recreate him? Why wouldn't you just kick Hermes into the machine and then clone two additional Rufii? At least it's an actual baby this time, and not an adult with a bubbly, naive personality. Baby Goal is on the cute side in the coming section, at least.
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Sep 5, 2014 13:59
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Wow, that sure is a lot of sucides in order to arrive at the part we are at now.
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Rufus, you shouldn't have embarked on a plan that required you to cooperate with anyone. Even if it was yourself.
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Sep 9, 2014 18:09
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Glazius posted:Rufus, you shouldn't have embarked on a plan that required you to cooperate with anyone. Even if it was yourself. Especially with yourself.
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He has to cooperate with himself SIX times. That is quite hard.
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I finally got around to beating Goodbye Deponia the other day and I think I've put my finger on a big part of what's wrong with the series and bugging us all so much. It's all kind of monkey's paw, it delivered on the letter of what I wanted to get out of the game but in a way that was really unsatisfying. When Rufus suffers some kind of repercussions for his behavior it doesn't affect him at all and it kind of feels like the game is petulantly going "There, something bad happened to Rufus, are you happy?" And the character development is so inconsistent that sometimes they actually pretend Rufus has learned something, and then go "Psyche! Fooled you!" and that, in and of itself, is the joke. I don't think Rufus is a parody of adventure game protagonists, I think he was just written by someone who thinks that's how adventure game protagonists are and likes it that way, and someone else tried to sneak in Rufus being a parody around the first guy's veto power.
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Dr. Buttass posted:
Rufus is definitely a character made to poke fun at adventure tropes (especially point-and-click adventure), maybe not a parody, but he still makes of them. However, the method through which those tropes are made fun of is a bit different than some other games (like Monkey Island). But poking fun at the industry is nothing new, so Rufus doesn't seem particularly innovative in that regard. Rather the innovation is in how much of jerk Rufus is. I suppose the Deponia Trilogy did showcase how much of a jerk adventure game protagonists were for humor purposes, but having that as central focus of the game (much less 3) is probably where Rufus becomes grating. Its one thing to have an NPC comment on how much of an rear end the protagonist is, and another to have a game revolve around the concept. The whole inconsistent character growth bit is a problem, too. But its hard to properly evaluate, especially if, according to others in this thread, the game underwent some hasty expansion of writing/puzzles to make three games. Some areas may be awkward due to the expansion, and others for another reason. 
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Nemo Somen posted:The whole inconsistent character growth bit is a problem, too. But its hard to properly evaluate, especially if, according to others in this thread, the game underwent some hasty expansion of writing/puzzles to make three games. Some areas may be awkward due to the expansion, and others for another reason. Well but the whole point is that's an explanation, not an excuse. It's still bad writing either way.
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Nemo Somen posted:Rufus is definitely a character made to poke fun at adventure tropes (especially point-and-click adventure), maybe not a parody, but he still makes of them. However, the method through which those tropes are made fun of is a bit different than some other games (like Monkey Island). But poking fun at the industry is nothing new, so Rufus doesn't seem particularly innovative in that regard. Rather the innovation is in how much of jerk Rufus is. I suppose the Deponia Trilogy did showcase how much of a jerk adventure game protagonists were for humor purposes, but having that as central focus of the game (much less 3) is probably where Rufus becomes grating. Its one thing to have an NPC comment on how much of an rear end the protagonist is, and another to have a game revolve around the concept. It's too much. Stretching the whole idea into three games just made the whole thing wear thin. Taking the old rear end in a top hat protagonist joke and seeing how far you can push it is a fine idea, but making three games out of it is too much. We've got almost random character growth. Rufus seems to constantly almost realize the error of his ways, but he has to snap back so he can do the next horrible thing the developers thought of. And some of the things that happen just to stretch the story make no sense. Goal coming back at the end of Chaos was strange enough, but I guess they just shoved her off the cruiser once she was dead so Hermes could find the body? Wouldn't they want to take her back to Elysium for a funeral of some kind? And Hermes explaining that Rufus is designed to not learn is the laziest of lazy cop-outs. In my opinion, they could have compressed this down to one long or two short games. There's plenty that could have been taken out, and Daedalic makes enough games every year that they could have used the puzzles elsewhere. As long as they left in the cat food bit. Anyway, this update is brought to you by me forgetting to put the subtitle file in the video render for the third video in a row. 
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