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lorddazron
Mar 31, 2011

BiggerBoat posted:

I'm watching a pretty decent documentary on Showtime right now called "X-Rated: Greatest" which covers a lot of the 70's era stuff and the chic of porn theaters up through the introduction of the VCR, which I think really was what made porn go mainstream. Have you seen this film? It sort of took me back. And if you don't mind me asking, how old are you? What was your first introduction to porn? Magazines, theaters, video tapes, 8mm stag films or what?

I remember going through puberty in the late 70's and the best most of us could do was raid the neighborhood dumpster for discarded Playboy and Penthouse mags or root through our dad's private stash and then , Sekabuild a fort in the woods to stash them. Finding them was like discovering gold. Then when I turned 16-18, it was the golden age of VHS movies with girls like Ginger and Amber Lynn, Christy Canyon and Lois Ayers. The 90's was the introduction of the DVD and the rental shops. Nowadays, porn is so readily available and you can find EXACTLY what you want to see at any given time (2 Asian women with tiny tits in red glitterey high heels blowing an uncircumcised black football player with a precisely measured 6.5" dick wearing a clown mask under a waterfall during a thunderstorm).

I have a four year old son and wonder how, or if I even should, attempt to limit his access to this stuff as he gets older so I'm curious. Do you have children? If so, do they know what you do for a living? Do you think the simplicity and ease of being able to find porn (and the precise thing you want to see) is a good or a bad thing?

I don't think you can really limit it. I remember what I was like when I hit my teens, and got internet access. I think the important thing is to teach him respect for women and teach him about normal healthy relationships once he starts seeing this stuff. I have a 3 year old daughter, and it is already preying on my mind, simply because it is so more prevalent and available than it ever has been. I'm going with the honesty is the best policy approach, and hopefully I can teach her to make her own educated choices.

On that subject, it amazes me that we condemn porn so readily, and I do agree that there is some poo poo that just shouldn't be made, but I hate reading about how porn is the devil and is responsible for relationship problems, and especially for teenagers warped attitudes towards relationships and sex. I'm in the UK, and our PM currently seems to have a massive hard-on for trying to get ISP's to block content, rather than trying to get schools and parents to actually loving educate their children. This might be over-simplifying things, but do they not think that the fact we barely talk about sex or relationships to our children is a huge part of the problem? Or maybe because we seem to idolise people like football players and celebrities, who sleep with underage girls, treat women like poo poo, and when they caught, we barely give them a slap on the loving wrist? Or even better, our own police actually cover it up.

Nope, it's all porns fault :jerkbag:

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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I think one of the few things that would cause full scale riots in the streets in the U.S. would be Congress trying to mandate the blocking of porn by ISPs. People would be storming the White House and poo poo.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

lorddazron posted:

Or maybe because we seem to idolise people like football players and celebrities, who sleep with underage girls, treat women like poo poo, and when they caught, we barely give them a slap on the loving wrist? Or even better, our own police actually cover it up.

The lesson is be an exceptional athlete at all costs.


Porn belongs in the classroom, says Danish professor
http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/mar/16/pornography-belongs-classroom-professor-denmark

dogcrash truther
Nov 2, 2013

Atomizer posted:

I'd suggest not so much limiting his access/exposure, as he's going to get into it regardless, but rather limit the security risks. That is, make sure he's not doing this on the family computer, where people store important documents/photos and enter sensitive information like SSNs and CC numbers, and where a virus would make things a huge headache. Even now you could buy him a $200 Chromebook, and not only is it unlikely to be infected, it can be easily wiped. (And I highly recommend Chromebooks in general, and I'm posting from one right now, but that's a topic for another thread.)

I think that should be your approach to the situation: minimize the potential damage. I know first hand the pain of disinfecting Windows machines for people who don't know how to browse for porn without getting infected. :rolleyes:

His son is four years old.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



dogcrash truther posted:

His son is four years old.

Yes, I know, I read that. That doesn't mean it makes sense to wait 10 years to post a reply.

Hell, all of that advice makes sense now, in terms of making sure your little kids don't get your Windows machine infected. It has nothing to do with porn.

When I was 4, we didn't have PCs, but I'm assuming nowadays kids probably get started on them at a young age. I still stand by getting him access to a $200 Chromebook instead of letting him go hog wild on any important PCs.

jarjarbinksfan621
Mar 4, 2012

dogcrash truther posted:

His son is four years old.

I wish my dad would have bought me a jerk off computer at 4 years old. you get the cobwebs cleared out early, and by the time you're in middle school, it's nothing new, you can really buckle down and focus on your studies.

Cimber
Feb 3, 2014
Or ya know, the kid can skip the computer and go outside or something....

lorddazron
Mar 31, 2011

dogcrash truther posted:

His son is four years old.

It doesnt say the guy is wanting to buy him one right this second but he is pretty wisely thinking of the future. It may be a few years away yet but its pretty sound advice for anyone with a child to consider having a seperate laptop or netbook so the kid cant do any damage to your stuff.

Hell that advice should apply to 95% of the adult population as well. Always fun when family ask you to fix their lovely HP laptop because its "running slow" and you find god knows how many viruses and:rolleyes: trojans because uncle jim really likes looking at pictures of big black dicks. Makes for an interesting conversation, especially when you cant fix it without a format and reinstall of windows and they havent backed up anything.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy

Cimber posted:

Or ya know, the kid can skip the computer and go outside or something....

That's terrible advice. People were always making me go outside and now I play video games all day every day because I am a grown rear end man and nobody tells me what to do I'm never gonna clean my room BTW.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:

That's terrible advice. People were always making me go outside and now I play video games all day every day because I am a grown rear end man and nobody tells me what to do I'm never gonna clean my room BTW.

You're not my real dad, you can't tell me what to do!

Also, if you go outside you might be molested or whatever. Best to just stay inside all day masturbating and playing vidya gaems.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
The real answer is that kids will be using the Oculus Riftsuit to cyporn. It's going to be real awkward reviewing the sensologs and finding ' Glory hole Haven' loaded up 50 times. :stonk:

I'm pretty sure that, as we journeyed to faraway Forrest, trash bins, abandoned houses and relatives' closets to ferret out porn, younger generations will equally be proactive in their search. Lock down all the e-vices you want. It only takes a classmate with a 4G connection and a smartphone to open Pandora's box.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


FilthyImp posted:

The real answer is that kids will be using the Oculus Riftsuit to cyporn. It's going to be real awkward reviewing the sensologs and finding ' Glory hole Haven' loaded up 50 times. :stonk:

I'm pretty sure that, as we journeyed to faraway Forrest, trash bins, abandoned houses and relatives' closets to ferret out porn, younger generations will equally be proactive in their search. Lock down all the e-vices you want. It only takes a classmate with a 4G connection and a smartphone to open Pandora's box.

Going to have to keylog my kids eyes.

dogcrash truther
Nov 2, 2013

lorddazron posted:

It doesnt say the guy is wanting to buy him one right this second but he is pretty wisely thinking of the future. It may be a few years away yet but its pretty sound advice for anyone with a child to consider having a seperate laptop or netbook so the kid cant do any damage to your stuff.

Hell that advice should apply to 95% of the adult population as well. Always fun when family ask you to fix their lovely HP laptop because its "running slow" and you find god knows how many viruses and:rolleyes: trojans because uncle jim really likes looking at pictures of big black dicks. Makes for an interesting conversation, especially when you cant fix it without a format and reinstall of windows and they havent backed up anything.

It turns out that nowadays porn sites aren't that bad as far as getting viruses go. The worst are lyrics sites and websites of small businesses and organizations (churches, nonprofits etc). The persistence of the "you got a computer virus because you looked at a sex website" narrative is fascinating, though.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Por

dogcrash truther posted:

It turns out that nowadays porn sites aren't that bad as far as getting viruses go. The worst are lyrics sites and websites of small businesses and organizations (churches, nonprofits etc). The persistence of the "you got a computer virus because you looked at a sex website" narrative is fascinating, though.



Porntube gives me some half assed attempt at a virus from time to time on my iPhone. "Your poo poo is locked up please send blah blah blah". Ok sure buddy.
Quick trip to the settings and it's gone.

lorddazron
Mar 31, 2011

dogcrash truther posted:

It turns out that nowadays porn sites aren't that bad as far as getting viruses go. The worst are lyrics sites and websites of small businesses and organizations (churches, nonprofits etc). The persistence of the "you got a computer virus because you looked at a sex website" narrative is fascinating, though.

I agree. The family members whose computers I've previously had to nuke all got to that state mostly through torrent sites. Although to be fair, the last time I fixed anything for family was a couple of years ago.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



dogcrash truther posted:

It turns out that nowadays porn sites aren't that bad as far as getting viruses go. The worst are lyrics sites and websites of small businesses and organizations (churches, nonprofits etc). The persistence of the "you got a computer virus because you looked at a sex website" narrative is fascinating, though.

But it's more like, "you got infected because of what you clicked on," particularly with regards to the ads. I could totally see a kid click on a flashing banner ad, whether it says, "Click here for free MMO!" or "You just won $1 Million, click here to claim your prize!" It doesn't even matter whether or not they visit "adult" sites, it basically boils down to how vulnerable the system is and how intelligent the user is.

cent0r
Feb 19, 2007

FilthyImp posted:

The real answer is that kids will be using the Oculus Riftsuit to cyporn. It's going to be real awkward reviewing the sensologs and finding ' Glory hole Haven' loaded up 50 times. :stonk:

I'm pretty sure that, as we journeyed to faraway Forrest, trash bins, abandoned houses and relatives' closets to ferret out porn, younger generations will equally be proactive in their search. Lock down all the e-vices you want. It only takes a classmate with a 4G connection and a smartphone to open Pandora's box.

Glory hole POV. Worst porn ever.

Cimber
Feb 3, 2014

cent0r posted:

Glory hole POV. Worst porn ever.

I dont need no fancy vr poo poo to stand 3 inches from a graffiti scrawled wall.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Yeah I know my son is 4 and it's not an issue YET but he'll be 8 or 10 or 12 before I know it. He's already amazingly computer savvy. I intend to monitor his computer usage and put the safeguards in place and all that. I just think it's an interesting topic to consider since back when I was growing up all Daddy had to was hide the magazines or VCR tapes but now, my God, this stuff is everywhere.

I'm not convinced it causes as much harm as some people say, I was just curious about Darkpriest's take on it since he's seen porn evolve through different formats over the years and witnessed the saturation of it. I wondered when he first discovered it and how.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


BiggerBoat posted:

Yeah I know my son is 4 and it's not an issue YET but he'll be 8 or 10 or 12 before I know it. He's already amazingly computer savvy. I intend to monitor his computer usage and put the safeguards in place and all that. I just think it's an interesting topic to consider since back when I was growing up all Daddy had to was hide the magazines or VCR tapes but now, my God, this stuff is everywhere.

I'm not convinced it causes as much harm as some people say, I was just curious about Darkpriest's take on it since he's seen porn evolve through different formats over the years and witnessed the saturation of it. I wondered when he first discovered it and how.

The problem is not porn as a concept but porn as delivered. Nobody wants to see the boring old porn you and your old lady do because you got a bad back and your woman had a long hard day. A kid growing up seeing gang bangs, facial abuse and blown out sphincters might get an unreal concept of what sex is.

Thats why I plan on viewing porn with my kids to explain it all. Nothing could go wrong with my plan.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

Get on my level

LingcodKilla posted:

The problem is not porn as a concept but porn as delivered. Nobody wants to see the boring old porn you and your old lady do because you got a bad back and your woman had a long hard day. A kid growing up seeing gang bangs, facial abuse and blown out sphincters might get an unreal concept of what sex is.

Thats why I plan on viewing porn with my kids to explain it all. Nothing could go wrong with my plan.

I don't know about viewing but explaining the difference between porn sex and real sex is certainly worth doing.

-Why most shoots don't use condoms and why you should in real life

-The real role of drugs in the industry: less coke, more viagra

-That it's not just full of abused people.

That "Twilight of the pornstars" documentary with Tommy Gunn and Kagney Lin Carter seemed pretty good overall.

ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747
It is pretty much full of abused people though innit

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
So's every industry. Welcome to the era of deregulation!

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



ICHIBAHN posted:

life is pretty much full of abused people though innit

ftfy

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Skeesix posted:

That "Twilight of the pornstars" documentary with Tommy Gunn and Kagney Lin Carter seemed pretty good overall.

KLC got upset that her boyfriend was upset that she agreed to do a gangbang scene and started speaking to Theroux as if the boyfriend wasn't there, saying that her boyfriend loves sitting around playing video games all day and wearing expensive clothes so maybe he should just think about that before he got upset.

It was pretty surreal.

ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Also, choosing those two as examples of "ok" people in porn was a bad move.

Positive Optimyst
Oct 25, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Professor Shark posted:

KLC got upset that her boyfriend was upset that she agreed to do a gangbang scene and started speaking to Theroux as if the boyfriend wasn't there, saying that her boyfriend loves sitting around playing video games all day and wearing expensive clothes so maybe he should just think about that before he got upset.

It was pretty surreal.

After reading this thread, I downloaded and watched Theroux's "Twilight of Porn" docco.

I think it was good, like "After porn ends," another doc.

darpriest has been absent for a while, ay?

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Positive Optimyst posted:

darpriest has been absent for a while, ay?

He gets busy sometimes but usually comes back when things let up.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



ICHIBAHN posted:

Also, choosing those two as examples of "ok" people in porn was a bad move.

Kagney Lynn Karter seems alright to me. What makes you think she isn't?

ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747
That scene the dude above just described. I remember watching it and feeling really bad for her and her boyfriend.

A CRUNK BIRD
Sep 29, 2004

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

Have you ever been to that Nudes-a-Poppin' thing that happens in Indiana every summer? Or have you heard any stories from people who have? I've always kinda wondered what the professional experience is like at that place vs. the general spectator experience, which I assume is... interesting.

Do you know of any performers who have had notable problems with stalkers harassing them, or with creepy people in general just being pests? How do they normally deal with stuff like that?


Every time these threads come around, I always have such fun reading them* but I can never think of any good questions to ask. :allears:


*(Unless Donny Pauling is around. gently caress that guy. I hope he's dead now.)

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

If I remember right, he has done this several times and the usual result is that nobody ever shows up to the shoot.

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

I believe darkpriest used to run some Quake servers or something for SA a long time ago.



Which reminds me: darkpriest, what are your IDs on XBox Live and PSN?

... and I guess whatever Nintendo has if you're gonna be playing Super Smash Bros. 4 at some point?

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

This kinda builds on one of my earlier questions, but I'd like to ask it as a separate one since it gets into a more specific subject.


What has happened with that PornWikileaks site since it popped up several years back? Has it caused any significant problems for anyone in the industry? And what has become of the site itself since then, or the guy running it?

I ask because I remember taking a look at that site a few years ago when there was a GBS thread about it, and there was a LOT of really personal stuff posted about a bunch of girls. I remember the Alexis Texas page in particular had the names of some of her family members, and I think there were addresses posted on it too. And that wasn't even one of the worst ones... apparently any time somebody tried to have anything about themselves removed from the site, the guy running it would respond by adding even more personal poo poo. He was also kinda racist and typically went after black/latina/Jewish/whatever actresses a bit worse than white actresses.

As I recall, the site was run by an ex-male performer who had been blacklisted from the industry after contracting HIV, apparently because he was really pissed about being forced to leave. There was some talk about the legality of having the site shut down because of it being hosted somewhere in Europe, but I'd like to know if anything ever came of that.

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

I don't think they're acting in that stuff.

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

Jesus Christ.

I might have another question or two along this vein that are a bit too personal to be posted in this thread. Would you mind if I asked them over PM?

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

I am becoming concerned at the direction this thread is moving in.


I believe he has. He's posted about her at least once in previous threads. Apparently she's a biter.


... And since I'm already on the subject: dp, have you ever worked with Christy Mack or Kagney Lynn Karter?

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

That's......... fascinating why do you know this? :stare:

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

Mine usually don't even get enough attention to get gassed. :smith:

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

I am beginning to question the sincerity behind your attempts to appear amicable in this thread. Those things you speak of do demonstrate social issues that are not necessarily good, but let's not oversaturate the entire thread with discussion about that one topic.


It isn't you that I'm worried about upsetting, but thanks. :)

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

This isn't really helping your case, son. If you want the conversation to stop, then just apologize and drop it. Don't keep making antagonistic responses like you're doing here.

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

Also are there instructions posted online for building such contraptions, and, if not, will you please post some here? Schematic diagrams, blueprints, chip manuals, whatever you got. :)

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

Aaaaaaaand now I have to ask how does a man's dick break. :magical: :cry:

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

Come on now. You can't deny that would make for a funny thread.

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

If I remember right, fluffers may have been around in the 70s and became little more than a myth after that. Like the Hanging Gardens.

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

So that's a "No" on the gently caress-machine blueprints, then? :(


Also please tell me you have more of these to post, because this is amazing. :allears:

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

HIV/AIDS would be my guess. Specifically the part where you get the lesions.

You ever see that movie Philadelphia?

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

Well I sure learned something cool about AA is for Quitters today.

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

Did you seriously just ask if women ejaculate?

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

^^^ Plus it's a bigger mouthfull.


Iiiiii... have a limited understanding of how AIDS works, yes...

And I don't know what GHB means, either.


...... I'm sorry. :smith:

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

Yeah seriously... I don't think there's any way I could be okay with doing something like that unless I was wearing a full-body hazmat suit with a breathing tank or something.

I could see being cool with cleaning up my own spill, but having to clean up after other people just...... ick. :gonk:


... Unless it's just some hot ladies with no men around, in which case... yeah... yeah I could probs handle that mess okay. :smugmrgw:

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

I wouldn't technically NEED the hazmat suit, but it'd be the only way I would ever be comfortable enough to consider cleaning up the mess.

Then again, this is coming from a person who throws away toilet brushes after one single use, so YMMV I guess.

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

AHAHAHAHAHA Donny Pauling is :aatrek: now

Yes!! I love it!! :D


EDIT: \/\/\/ That's not the part I love. That part is bad.

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

... and beautiful.

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

If I went to UTEP, I'd hate my alma mater, too.

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

I think he's talking about bugchasers.

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

Seriously, though, I think dogcrash truther is asking whether there is such a thing as bugchaser porn.

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

Wait...... so HIV is an important staple of gay culture now?

This interview made my brain hurt.

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

LBJ was the best president. :911:

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

Kagney Lynn Karter seems alright to me. What makes you think she isn't?

Sorry this creep is obsessed with your porn thread OP

Armyman25
Sep 6, 2005
I think this has been brought up before, but is there a particular reason there are so many Czech porn stars? it seems like the are over represented for such a small country. Am I mistaken here, or is there some special set of circumstances that produces Czech stars?

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

Armyman25 posted:

I think this has been brought up before, but is there a particular reason there are so many Czech porn stars? it seems like the are over represented for such a small country. Am I mistaken here, or is there some special set of circumstances that produces Czech stars?

Eastern european (namely czech, polish, hungarian, and bulgarian/romanian) women dominate the European porn world. Dominate might be the wrong term for this, since the actual reason they're successful is due to the combination of low-cost/high-volume. Why? All of the aforementioned nationalities are in the EU, and therefore these people can be anywhere in Europe without a problem, and the wages in their home countries aren't high. While there are often accusations of human trafficking, especially when related to prostitution/escorts, the reality is that if you offer pretty eastern european girl 5-10x the average salary in their country to be a pornstar, you'll eventually find a few. Considering that these women are affordable, white, and exist in volume, it all makes sense.

Kaal
May 22, 2002

through thousands of posts in D&D over a decade, I now believe I know what I'm talking about. if I post forcefully and confidently, I can convince others that is true. no one sees through my facade.

Landsknecht posted:

Eastern european (namely czech, polish, hungarian, and bulgarian/romanian) women dominate the European porn world. Dominate might be the wrong term for this, since the actual reason they're successful is due to the combination of low-cost/high-volume. Why? All of the aforementioned nationalities are in the EU, and therefore these people can be anywhere in Europe without a problem, and the wages in their home countries aren't high. While there are often accusations of human trafficking, especially when related to prostitution/escorts, the reality is that if you offer pretty eastern european girl 5-10x the average salary in their country to be a pornstar, you'll eventually find a few. Considering that these women are affordable, white, and exist in volume, it all makes sense.

Also Prague specifically is the San Fernando Valley of Europe.

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

BiggerBoat posted:

Yeah I know my son is 4 and it's not an issue YET but he'll be 8 or 10 or 12 before I know it. He's already amazingly computer savvy. I intend to monitor his computer usage and put the safeguards in place and all that. I just think it's an interesting topic to consider since back when I was growing up all Daddy had to was hide the magazines or VCR tapes but now, my God, this stuff is everywhere.

I'm not convinced it causes as much harm as some people say, I was just curious about Darkpriest's take on it since he's seen porn evolve through different formats over the years and witnessed the saturation of it. I wondered when he first discovered it and how.

as a new father myself, my advice is not to worry about it until you come to it. I think of the parents who had kids in 1998 or so who probably spent a shitload of time and energy thinking about how to protect their children on the internet, and how they couldn't have had a loving clue what was coming.

1337kutkufan6969
Feb 13, 2010

Oh, Yian Kut Ku!
Where have you been all my life?
Let me break your head.


Grimey Drawer
Speaking of Eastern European porn, if you know Connie Carter, can you please tell her to open her eyes every now and again? For some reason it really bothers me and god forbid I be bothered when trying to... you know.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





1337kutkufan6969 posted:

Speaking of Eastern European porn, if you know Connie Carter, can you please tell her to open her eyes every now and again? For some reason it really bothers me and god forbid I be bothered when trying to... you know.

Excuse me. I need to go do some research on this closed eye phenomenon.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



Kaal posted:

Also Prague specifically is the San Fernando Valley of Europe.

This is not something I would have known or expected.

Note to Self: Go to Prague one day.

Kaal
May 22, 2002

through thousands of posts in D&D over a decade, I now believe I know what I'm talking about. if I post forcefully and confidently, I can convince others that is true. no one sees through my facade.

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

This is not something I would have known or expected.

Note to Self: Go to Prague one day.

Well it's a beautiful city in many ways, I'll tell you that.

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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

This is not something I would have known or expected.

Note to Self: Go to Prague one day.

Don't go for porn. It's a wonderful place by any standard.

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