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Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

AtomD posted:

oh boy the goog really did it this time
that's like, worse than 90s microsoft gattam

(if true, but im not doubting it all that much which says a lot about what google did with their name the past 5 years)

Microsoft made the best operation system and crushed everyone by being better. what goog is doing is fraud

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Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
I would not want to work at goog

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Wild EEPROM posted:

does the + modifier in google search actually work now or is it still a google+ thing

they broke all their advanced search characters to hide the fact that they hijacked + for goog+

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

THC posted:

google UI design is bad



flat is fine if you get it right, see iOS 7 for details

ios7 is hilariously ugly.

just fixing the icon shape alone would do wonders.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
most of the first party apps are really ugly

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Rufus Ping posted:

communism has come close to working pretty well but in every case was crushed from the outside by reality

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
but lol for real at the idea of communism "coming close to working"

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Broken Machine posted:

I don't think it matters as much as you'd expect what governmental model is adopted, but more the cultural norms that determine how it actually functions. The democratic model in Denmark isn't that different than the US in ways, but it functions better mostly because of their norms. If the US were more prosperous country with different norms, the laws and governance may be administered similarly, but the results would be quite different.

It's like anything else it works great on paper and then people just ruin everything.

yes if the us were a tiny monoculture we would probably be able to progress faster

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
my boss used azure to setup a lab environment for testing some sql server stuff and now hes fully on board the clod. If we can ever convince the ceo to go cloud we'd probably move everyone to 365 the next day and then start planning to move any infrastructure we can to azure/aws

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

infernal machines posted:

afik the exchange server integration is only available with the Ex plans, not the Px small business plans. you can't mix the plans within a domain and the per license cost of the Px plans is lower so it tends to be what businesses with les than 25 licenses are using.

with 25 users it would probably take you less time to export the psts manually than to configure the auto export tool

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
not as good as outlook.com

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Shifty Pony posted:

ever since the bush admin pulled a hard 180 on the microsoft case the tech industry has just been one gigantic tying orgy.

apple does/did it with the exclusivity of itunes to the idevices (and vice versa) and the in-app payment rules in the app store. google does it with everything and google search. amazon is trying real hard to get users to try their video streaming service by tying it to free 2 day shipping. microsoft is trying to break into single sign-on (again) by requiring you to sign up for a Microsoft Account in Win 8.

it has gotten so bad that the only way to have any chance at breaking into an occupied tech market sector now is to be one of the other monopolistic companies (like apple and ebooks) and the end-game of nearly all startups is to to hope like hell the big tech companies decide to acquire you instead of rolling out their own service via the tying of it to their major strength (what are the odds that spotify continues to exist after apple/google roll out integrated streaming services?).

the ruling against Microsoft did only harm and absolutely nothing positive.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Cocoa Crispies posted:

mac doesn't have the malware problems that windows has

yeah mac's are way worse

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
lol @ goog doing browser version detection like some scrubs instead of feature detection

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Sappy Fingers posted:

would somebody with more law knowledge than me explain why this is a bad thing for google to do, like whats the problem here that breaks a law or harms anything

providing a service to your existing customers that is similar to a service provided by another business is not ok.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
finally. email with an api. the year is 1989 and lotus notes has just been invented

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
smtp is trash for real but lol at the idea that anyones gonna get rid of it ever.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
everyone does that though. email isn't very good without custom fuckery and you can only do that inside your own network

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

AtomD posted:

how much of this was possible with activesync that gmail dropped?

activesync did more

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Thanks Ants posted:

i thought shaggar was saying that the reason chrome is poo poo on mac os wasnt the fault of google for being bad programmers

its poo poo everywhere because webkit is poo poo. the difference between chrome and safari is the multithreading hack in chrome that eats cpu/battery

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
apple should do that too

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
they should move all apps w/ iap out of the free section of the store. label them paid with demo.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Avenging Dentist posted:

old but my fave part of this is that the reasoning for why this was ok was that flash and friends were already doing it and so chrome would be ok doing it too, since the system timer would already be set to 1ms: https://www.belshe.com/2010/06/04/chrome-cranking-up-the-clock/


which sounds reasonable for a second but then you realize that the system timer affects thread scheduling across the entire os, so if your argument is "other things are already doing it" then there's no loving reason for you to ALSO do it

the thing is wmp doesn't actually gently caress the poo poo out of your cpu (its also probably used as an exclusive app 90% of the time, but w/e) because its using those timers sensibly. IE9+ also can use high resolution timers and manages to be more efficient than chrome.

chrome is just garbage because goog's solution to websites being bad and bad javascript destroying your cpu because of the higher frequency timers is to just run it all in separate processes from the UI process. This way they appear responsive while actively eating all your cpu behind the scenes. Microsoft's tack with IE has been to throttle the site and preserve the cpu for other things running on the os.

also IE adds the ability for the user to configure the timer via the system power settings which means you can tie it to a general system performance profile instead of just kind of hiding it away where no one will notice for years.

theres actually a pretty good response to that blog that points out how stupid chrome's approach is and that correctly predicted all the performance problems it would create.

tl;dr:

juan posted:

What you are basically doing is making poorly written pages run faster at the expense of the rest of the system (both the performance of other tasks, and energy consumption).

idiot googler who wrote the article posted:

This is not a tradeoff to make other applications run more slowly. If it is, please provide a benchmark to demonstrate.

lol. everyone whos used chrome since has felt that tradeoff.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

PleasureKevin posted:

yeah and a lot of iap apps just sell an ad-free option or other minor convenience/feature. just label them "free with in-app purchases"

however an actual demos section that let's you play and then download the game would slightly lower the number of pay-to-win games by giving developers that option

free w/ ads should be the demo version of a paid app. then you can upgrade to the full app to get rid of ads.

then put treadmill currency games in their own section away from everything else so no one but the idiots who use those apps have to look at them.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
also re: chrome stupidity: a linuxtard was smugging out in that blog entry over not understanding timers in windows and how in Linux they had already setup the high frequency timers so I bet osx chrome has been hosed up like this since the beginning. no one has ever noticed though, because using a single application very slowly is osx SOP

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Avenging Dentist posted:

right i mean those timers exist for a reason and there are even sensible reasons why chrome might want to gently caress with them sometimes (e.g. html5 video) but the fact that they always dropped the timers to 1ms is proof positive that chrome devs don't understand operating systems (or are told not to care)

which gets extra-funny when you remember chrome os is a thing which exists

forgot about that. lol.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

prefect posted:

serious question: do you think this will make a meaningful difference? did the microsoft antitrust stuff in the '90s make a difference then?

EC decisions are all about penalizing American companies for being superior, not about fixing the problems in their own markets that lead to their poor quality products+services.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
lol

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
yo I love those cardassian chicks

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Socracheese posted:

everyone involved in making video games is useless by definition because it is basically the science of pissing away time

yeah just like all other art

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
actually they are art as decided by the supreme court of these united states.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Shifty Pony posted:

the prius powertrain is legit amazing. some seriously cool stuff going on there.


does it make you sad that people don't automatically freak out and slow down when they see your car's silhouette now that police have switched over to other vehicles?

the police have finally figured out that you can stick lights and a siren in any car so now they use everything to pull people on the highway. I saw one of those windowless creeper vans with pull a dude over on the highway the other day. cop just stuck the lights on the dash.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

yeah police suck

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
the last ship is so bad but its bad in a way that hasn't happened in decades.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
the good guys are sooo loving good and the bad guys are so loving bad

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
yeah.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
the virus does not make zombies so its ahead of 99.9999999% of post apocalyptic stuff

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Last Chance posted:

i got three episodes in and i just couldnt do it anymore.

god's honest truth there is a scene where a marine guy says "we don't negotiate with terrorists" and triggers some kind of explosion to kill escaped gitmo prisoners

yeah its incredible.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
those google boat things they dismantled were gonna be goog glass stores.

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Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
why do you live anywhere it gets to -3?

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