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Welcome to the All New Amazing Spectacular Spider-Man Thread of  Previously on Spider-Man. Short Version: Doc Ock swapped bodies with Peter Parker because  and Peter dies. Things got better and now Peter is back.Longer Version:
Now with all that out of the way here's to the "current" books.  AMAZING SPIDER-MAN The adventures of Peter Parker, everybody's favorite man child. He punches bad guys, has constant relationship drama and spins a web any size. How will he contend with a girlfriend he doesn't remember having? Or someone else with spider powers? Writer: Dan Slott Artist: Humberto Ramos/Various  Spider-Man 2099 Meet Spider-Man 2099. He's from the year 2099 and stuck in our time! He talks in terrible 80's/90's type slang but he's from the future. Find out how many times the word paradox can be used in this book! Writer: Peter David Artist: Will Sliney  The Superior Foes of Spider-Man The mis-adventures of Boomerang,Shocker and some other chumps. Basically just read through the funny panel thread and you'll see. It's probably the best thing Nick Spencer has done. And that's probably due to the fact that Steve Lieber is on art. Probably ending soon! Probably. Writer: Nick Spencer* Artist: Steve Lieber* *(Or whomever Marvel can get to quickly churn out an issue) SPIDERVERSE (aka lol if you thought Slott was leaving the book)  You know how Spider-Island was a whole messy event to try and realign the mythical Spider-totem stuff from JMS' run with current Spider-Man? Well this is more of that. Morlun, the bad guy everybody wishes would be forgotten, has returned and is killing of Spider-Men from different universes so they all have to team up like the finale of the 90's cartoon and save the day. Peter Parker, Peter Parker, Peter Parker, Peter Parker, Peter Parker, Miles Morales, Kaine, Ben Reilly, Peter Parker, Peter Parker, Peter Parker, Flash Thompson, Eddie Brock, any Spider-Man that somehow survived a What If?, Manga Spider-Man, Live Action Spider-Man, the Spider-Man from that sentai show in the 70's and some new ones all make an appearance. Amalgam Spider-Boy will not. Expect a million different tie-ins, new series and mini series involving anybody with a spider themed name. Tell Me What Books To Read Do you want to know more about Spider-Man? Just seen the new film and want some good books? Amazing Spider-Man 1-100 by Stan Lee, Steve Ditko, John Romita Sr and Gil Kane is effectively the definitive run of the character and the best it has ever been. Amazing Spider-Man #568 is a good jumping on point if you'd like to read some good, modern comics.
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Apr 29, 2014 20:32
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This week has both Amazing Spider-Man #1 and Free Comic Book Day Spider-Man which will be a prequel to Spider-Verse so if you want to read Spider-Man books for like the next year you will probably have to read them!
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Apr 29, 2014 20:35
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Yes but what about Mary Jane...does she get a book?
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Apr 29, 2014 20:43
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There's also Kaine in New Warriors and Venom in Guardians of the Galaxy if that counts maybe. Please buy NW, don't let Kaine die again 
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Apr 29, 2014 20:44
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I tried reading Spiderman from BND but it's kind of boring and I don't like the revolving cast of writers. Recommendations for a good place to pick it up?
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Apr 29, 2014 21:15
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zoux posted:I tried reading Spiderman from BND but it's kind of boring and I don't like the revolving cast of writers. Recommendations for a good place to pick it up? Ultimate Spider-Man #1 But if you really really want to I guess just start wherever Slott started as the only writer and that will bring you to the present.
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Apr 29, 2014 21:20
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Please add Peter Porker to the Spiderverse synopsis.
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Apr 29, 2014 21:22
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Gatts posted:Yes but what about Mary Jane...does she get a book? You got that Jackpot one shot ages ago. That's all you'll ever get (even if it wasn't Mary Jane). ArmyOfMidgets posted:There's also Kaine in New Warriors and Venom in Guardians of the Galaxy if that counts maybe. Please buy NW, don't let Kaine die again When Ben Reilly get's a series then I'll acknowledge Kaine 
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Apr 29, 2014 21:23
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Senor Candle posted:Ultimate Spider-Man #1 Yeah it's really painful to read Bendis Spidey and then read exposition lord Slott. My main problem with Ultimate Spidey is I'm not the biggest fan of Bagley.
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Apr 29, 2014 21:41
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zoux posted:Yeah it's really painful to read Bendis Spidey and then read exposition lord Slott. My main problem with Ultimate Spidey is I'm not the biggest fan of Bagley. Yeah tbh I'm not crazy about the art for most of the series but it didn't stop me from really enjoying it.
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Apr 29, 2014 21:43
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Senor Candle posted:Yeah tbh I'm not crazy about the art for most of the series but it didn't stop me from really enjoying it. Yeah once Immonen gets on the book it's golden, but he wasn't there for terribly long.
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Apr 29, 2014 21:48
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:There's also Kaine in New Warriors and Venom in Guardians of the Galaxy if that counts maybe. Please buy NW, don't let Kaine die again Or Aracely! I really wish that in all of the Superior stuff we could've at least had SpOck meet her.
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Apr 29, 2014 23:23
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Suben posted:Or Aracely! Yeah but it's one thing tricking the X-men and the Avengers into not mindreading him, and another very different to try and stop Aracely from doing so. Kinda wanna see a What If? where Aracely comes with Kaine to meet Peter and ends up convincing Ock to give the body back, then Amazing Scarlet Spider Family Adventures 
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Apr 29, 2014 23:28
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zoux posted:I tried reading Spiderman from BND but it's kind of boring and I don't like the revolving cast of writers. Recommendations for a good place to pick it up? BND is bland as gently caress but there are a couple good arcs sprinkled in there. Try out shed. Its pretty cool. 630-633. edit: As for a jump on point. Ehhhhhh, not really one at the moment. Maybe the relaunch? Probably not tho. CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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Apr 29, 2014 23:49
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If you had a Comixology account, you got a $5.00 credit for the fuckery that's going on right now. Superior Spider-Man Vol. 1 is still $3.00 on Comixology right now, but even with a free $5 credit it's still not worth the price of admission (Which is free). You could use that $5 on Spider-Man: Blue, or Spider-Man: Masterworks or Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 1! Or even better Marvel collections that are $3 right now! Everything about Superior Spider-Man sounds really cool to an outsider. I thought it was really cool too, but I read it and wow Dan Slott just become an editor for DC or something, you are bad at every aspect of a comic book that isn't an idea. Slott writes comics to make action figures, he would have fit in really well in the 90's writing Urban Arctic Assault Spider-Man CharlestheHammer posted:BND is bland as gently caress but there are a couple good arcs sprinkled in there. Senor Candle posted:Ultimate Spider-Man #1 RealFoxy fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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Apr 29, 2014 23:57
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Disagree I guess. I loving hated that Rhino story. It was so bad and cliche. Grim Hunt was a confusing mess that existed to bring back Kraven and little else. I don't remember much of the rest because you know, bland.
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Apr 30, 2014 00:00
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It's me. I am the person excited for Spider-Verse.
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Apr 30, 2014 00:19
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Little Mac posted:It's me. I am the person excited for Spider-Verse. Will Spider-Man from the 90s cartoon somehow be involved? If not, I probably won't be picking this up.
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Apr 30, 2014 00:30
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The problem I'm having with Spider-Verse is that I really want it to be an animated special along the lines of Turtles Forever, and it won't be. Also, I hate this thread title because it is depressingly accurate.
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Apr 30, 2014 00:33
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I just want this guy to make an appearance in Spider-Verse
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Apr 30, 2014 00:36
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So when was the spider that bit Peter eaten by the Thousand?
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Apr 30, 2014 00:48
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The best spider product out there now is the Newspaper strip.
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Apr 30, 2014 00:49
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I can't wait for the collectible action figure range of the Spider-Verse. At least I finally got my dream of a new 2099 book, but I don't really care for the art.
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Apr 30, 2014 00:51
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Gatts posted:The best spider product out there now is the Newspaper strip. This has always been true. And always will be.
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Apr 30, 2014 01:23
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PoshAlligator posted:I can't wait for the collectible action figure range of the Spider-Verse. (Or they'll be like Ghost Rider who has a hand for holding a weapon when he doesn't even come with any weapons)
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Apr 30, 2014 02:42
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I'd buy the hell out of an Ultimate Jessica Drew figure, I don't even care if it was 90s 7 points of articulation style.
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Apr 30, 2014 02:44
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I'd be more excited for Spider-Verse if it had a different writer.
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Apr 30, 2014 02:47
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Little Mac posted:It's me. I am the person excited for Spider-Verse. Honestly, so am I. I know deep down that it'll probably be disappointing, but I am a sucker for crossovers and character interacting with alternate versions of themselves. I mean, it's stupid, but if Waterhaul's description of it being like the finale of the 90s cartoon is even close to accurate, well then gently caress it, it'll probably be good enough for me.
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Apr 30, 2014 04:26
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TwoPair posted:Honestly, so am I. I know deep down that it'll probably be disappointing, but I am a sucker for crossovers and character interacting with alternate versions of themselves. I mean, it's stupid, but if Waterhaul's description of it being like the finale of the 90s cartoon is even close to accurate, well then gently caress it, it'll probably be good enough for me. I hope all the Spider-Mans have to hold hands to defeat the final enemy.
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Apr 30, 2014 05:54
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XboxPants posted:I hope all the Spider-Mans have to hold hands to defeat the final enemy. They could gestalt. They could give Peter their power. Ben/Miles/Kaine/Ultimate Spider-girl and Peter are the last ones left standing and have an epic fightfest against the baddy. I wish Grant Morrison was writing this.
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Apr 30, 2014 06:08
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zoux posted:Yeah it's really painful to read Bendis Spidey and then read exposition lord Slott. My main problem with Ultimate Spidey is I'm not the biggest fan of Bagley. Bagley certainly isn't an artist I would seek out on my own, but you have to realize that for most of that run they were publishing something like 18 issues a year, and Bagley drew them all without tracing a single porn star. Gatts posted:They could gestalt. They could give Peter their power. Ben/Miles/Kaine/Ultimate Spider-girl and Peter are the last ones left standing and have an epic fightfest against the baddy. Oh god yes, if anyone could make sense of Spider-Totems and multiversal Spider-Men, it'd be Morrison. Has Morrison ever written Spider-Man, like in a cameo or something?
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Apr 30, 2014 07:58
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I like Bagley; I believe he pencilled Thunderbolts for a while and I liked that a lot. I associate him so much with the Ultimate Spidey that it was kinda weird to learn he'd been doing art for the main Spider-Man titles in the 1990s, worked on the early Clone Saga and drew the issue with the death of (the actress pretending to be  ) Aunt May.Is it fair to call him a definitive Spider artist, along with Ditko, Romita and Romita, Jr.?
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Apr 30, 2014 08:55
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PoshAlligator posted:Will Spider-Man from the 90s cartoon somehow be involved? If not, I probably won't be picking this up. They've already said the cartoon ones will make an appearance. Basically everything that isn't some weird legal limbo like Amalgam Spider-Man will show up. Skwirl posted:Bagley certainly isn't an artist I would seek out on my own, but you have to realize that for most of that run they were publishing something like 18 issues a year, and Bagley drew them all without tracing a single porn star. Morrison has said multiple times that he has nothing to say about the character so has never any interest in doing anything with them. And this was when he was still working with Marvel. Metal Loaf posted:I like Bagley; I believe he pencilled Thunderbolts for a while and I liked that a lot. I can't stand Bagley, mostly because every character looks unfinished despite the speed he churns things, but he would probably go in the top 10 list of recognizable Spider-Man artists. Though I wouldn't put him above Ditko,the Romita's or Gil Kane.
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Apr 30, 2014 09:02
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Maybe I thought I was being too harsh on Superior Spider-Man. I was only reading bits and pieces when I heard something spectacularly stupid happening, and just had to read it for myself. I bought the first trade since it was only three bucks on Comixology. Nitpicks:
Spectacularly stupid: Massacre. Everything about Massacre. Casually slipping in murder sprees inside of a fast food restaurant is not cool at all, and then the ridiculousness of having him go to a competitor and "brand" himself with a competitor's logo for blood money is just the dumbest loving thing I think I've ever read a super villain do. It wasn't clever and the only impact it left on me was tasteless attempts at shock and awe. I can't get over how stupid this entire villain/concept is, even if the end-game for Slott was create a villain so "despicable" that Otto would want to kill him to make a point, this was just so loving stupid and a very poor attempt at moving the story forward. It looked like Massacre was pulled right out of a Batman comic during his grittiest, most grimdark era and had the concept with Azreal or Hush as Batman deciding to pull the trigger and kill Joker. What I took from Volume 1: Slott is trying to write Superior Batman? Slott should not have ever been allowed to write a character called "Massacre" and whatever he does. If not for that, everything else would just be minor nitpicks. I would have bought Vol 2 if it were on sale; there are ideas and concepts I'd like to continue with. Anna Marie wasn't nearly as bad as the clips and forums made her look (It's just that the art style does not do her any favors). I still think everything about the brain-swap is stupid. Ghost Peter was stupid. Other things had decent ideas and poor execution. Still think Slott would be a better editor than a writer and just throwing ideas to other, much better writers. "Massacre" turned me off to wanting to read anymore Superior Spider-Man, even if he never shows up again.
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Apr 30, 2014 10:58
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Flameingblack posted:They'll all have one fist and a webslinger hand identical to every other There's a bit in The Amazing Spider-Man 2 where Electro breaks one of Spider-Man's web-shooters, and he has to do the fight with just one. I like to think this was a direct reference to the figures.
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Apr 30, 2014 11:05
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Flameingblack posted:[*]Since when has Peter Parker ever been known for extraordinary good looks? Never, that I recall. The fact that Otto just walks around with an earpiece and girls all flock to him like Brad Pitt is so laughable. It depends on the writer and the girl but Slott certainly isn't the first to do it and he doesn't even do it all that much. Lee/Ditko/Romita have Betty, Liz, MJ, and Gwen all fighting over him at one time or another. Lee's successor, Conway, introduced Glory Grant who also made several passes at Peter. I really overall agree with everything else you said. Superior has some decent issues but they aren't happening until you get through at least the first half dozen. And even the decent issues are mixed with some horrible scenes when they involve the Avengers or pre-Spock supporting cast being struck with a Dumb Stick due to the story. The MJ stuff was excessively creepy. Even for Slott. The only "good" thing is they at least got it out of the way by issue #2. ASM1 was mostly garbage. Slott really goes for the most juvenile humor possible. He can't even write MJ decently for all of the two panels she appears in. The end-of-book cliffhanger has some promise but I'm not holding my breath. The Electro backup story for the blatant movie cash in was decent enough. Black Cat backup was okay but I'm really not buying her as master planner villain. Peter David's 2099 story was good and I'll at least check out that story. Yost's Kaine backup, of sorts, was really touching. Good summary of Scarlet Spider for those who haven't read it.
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Apr 30, 2014 14:34
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As someone who hasn't followed Superior at all beyond the first few issues, I gave Amazing a shot and thought it was pretty awful. Just a lot of fluff and dumb jokes with Ramos in top form at drawing the shittiest-looking characters. I did like the Black Cat mini, though. The art was really good, and while it's not a character I ever had any fondness for, that was a pretty good setup.
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Apr 30, 2014 14:52
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Why... Why can't ASM be good? Spidey is my favorite comic book character.
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Apr 30, 2014 18:08
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I'm just not feeling ASM. What made Superior so good was Doc Ock starting out by doing things his way, and basically doing villainous things to benefit the city in a heroic way. He was different from the previous Spiderman, and a breath of fresh air. Now we're back to business as usual with the most dry wit ever seen. The entire comic felt like the definition of "the more things change, the more they stay the same". I haven't been involved with current Spiderman for too long, and I know returning to status quo is par for the course, but Spockerman was a huge loss for me. And I love that they have a side comic that explains how Spiderman's powers work, when -There's a very very very SMALL group of people who are probably going to start on Spiderman at this point -Even if they never picked up a Spiderman comic, I think a vast majority knows how his powers work by now And the extra kick to the gut being the larger price tag, because they have to throw in their lovely new Inhumans comic in an already crowded book.
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Apr 30, 2014 18:16
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NoMoneyDown posted:I'm just not feeling ASM. What made Superior so good was Doc Ock starting out by doing things his way, and basically doing villainous things to benefit the city in a heroic way. He was different from the previous Spiderman, and a breath of fresh air. Now we're back to business as usual with the most dry wit ever seen. The entire comic felt like the definition of "the more things change, the more they stay the same". I haven't been involved with current Spiderman for too long, and I know returning to status quo is par for the course, but Spockerman was a huge loss for me. There's also a $10 digital exclusive special edition.
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