Hey I've got a random Spider-Man question: What's the deal with Chameleon's face? Is there a reason it's white and has a snake nose? Is that a mask? What's the deal?
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# ? May 1, 2014 22:25 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 13:41 |
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TheJoker138 posted:Hey I've got a random Spider-Man question: What's the deal with Chameleon's face? Is there a reason it's white and has a snake nose? Is that a mask? What's the deal? I think it's a mask that's like an image inducer kind of thing. He's not a literal shapeshifter.
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# ? May 1, 2014 22:49 |
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Edge & Christian posted:c) 80% of the people in that backup were drawn to look straight out of 1961 I assumed this was deliberate and think it was kinda cool. Like obviously the timescale has slid and we can have people with technology that didn't exist in 1962 be around Spidey's origin, but to show how this story legit takes place within Amazing Fantasy #15, everyone but our new inserted character looks straight out of that older time period. It was jarring but in a good way, I thought.
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# ? May 1, 2014 23:14 |
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Flameingblack posted:I don't understand why there had to be a mass shooting in a public setting at all. This is different than Punisher mowing down a bunch of gangsters. I don't either. But in the comics far worse happens all the time.
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# ? May 2, 2014 00:22 |
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Not really an excuse and they are usually dumb too.
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# ? May 2, 2014 00:55 |
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Lobok posted:Yes. After Stan Lee it's the definitive Spider-Man as far as I'm concerned. It was glorious. Stern and Mantlo on Spider-Man, Stern on Avengers, Simonson on Thor, Byrne on FF, Micheline and Layton on Iron Man, classic Claremont on X-Men, Miller on Daredevil.. Hell, even the outright crassly commercial Secret Wars was stupid fun. They took chances on weird concepts (Generic Comic Book, Fumetti Special, No Prize Book, Asst Editors Month) and awesome properties (Transformers, GI Joe, A-Team, Micronauts), and even did kid's comics right (Star!). Shooter may have been a douche at times, but man did he know how to run that company. And Spider-man was just fantastic... even when DeFalco took over...
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# ? May 2, 2014 01:06 |
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Okay, you've sold me. I've sent off for a copy of the Stern omnibus. Probably neither the time nor place, but from that same era, how is Mantlo's run on Hulk? The only Hulk I've read is the first half of PAD's run.
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# ? May 2, 2014 01:12 |
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TheJoker138 posted:Hey I've got a random Spider-Man question: What's the deal with Chameleon's face? Is there a reason it's white and has a snake nose? Is that a mask? What's the deal? His face would be an animated version of a wig stand. A very blank face with only vague impressions of the features. The same kind of face he would later give The Question, but white. When Chameleon was first created he was a master of disguise, switching between and using a combination of masks and wigs he had on him. Only later or in adaptations did he get powers or gadget help. It ties in with one of the motifs you find in a lot of Ditko characters, that being false or blank faces. Gas/smoke being another. Green Goblin, Big Man, Crime Master, Mysterio, Chameleon, The Looter. And that's just his Spider-Man villains.
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# ? May 2, 2014 02:30 |
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Dacap posted:I think it's a mask that's like an image inducer kind of thing. He's not a literal shapeshifter. Well first it was masks, then it was an image inducer belt like the '90s series, then he became an actual shapeshifter somehow, then post-OMD he was back to masks and now he's a shapeshifter again. He's my favorite Spidey villain if only because, Norman aside, he's one of the only ones who seems (well seemed) intent on loving with Spider-Man on a deeply personal and emotional level as opposed to just doing villain scheme things.
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# ? May 2, 2014 03:20 |
So is it a mask or is his face just naturally mannequin style?
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# ? May 2, 2014 07:48 |
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TheJoker138 posted:So is it a mask or is his face just naturally mannequin style? Most of the time it's just a mask, every once and a while somebody decides to portray him as so crazy/dedicated that he mutilated his face for the sake of being able to use more realistic masks when impersonating people.
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# ? May 2, 2014 07:59 |
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Some dude just bought twenty copies of Amazing #1. I don't even know what the gently caress.
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# ? May 2, 2014 19:23 |
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Rhyno posted:Some dude just bought twenty copies of Amazing #1. I don't even know what the gently caress. I'm gonna go to Ebay and be rich, I tell ya! rich!
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# ? May 2, 2014 19:25 |
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notthegoatseguy posted:I'm gonna go to Ebay and be rich, I tell ya! rich! Not if I beat him to it! I mean, it's still in stock at Diamond. I can get 100 copies right now.
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# ? May 2, 2014 19:42 |
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Rhyno posted:Some dude just bought twenty copies of Amazing #1. I don't even know what the gently caress. There was this story this past week about a local shop putting up Amazing Fantasy #15 and Amazing Spider-Man #1 (the OG) for sale and this story mixed with what you posted and for a moment I was like "WHO IS THIS loving MILLIONAIRE?"
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# ? May 2, 2014 20:25 |
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I literally cannot comprehend how people are taken in by the constant issues 1s in 2014.
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# ? May 2, 2014 22:24 |
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PoshAlligator posted:I literally cannot comprehend how people are taken in by the constant issues 1s in 2014. They seem to think that #1's value going up is decided by random chance. So even if they think it will bust eventually they might hit. If they understood why they don't hold the value like they did it would probably die out as a practice.
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# ? May 2, 2014 22:42 |
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PoshAlligator posted:I literally cannot comprehend how people are taken in by the constant issues 1s in 2014. In fairness some are worth something like the Snyder/Capullo Batman.
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# ? May 2, 2014 22:44 |
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Starsnostars posted:In fairness some are worth something like the Snyder/Capullo Batman. I bet some of surprise hits might be worth something in the vext few years. Like Hawkguy #1 or Ms Marvel #1. I know the very first issue of Ultimate Spider-Man was worth a good chunk for a while. But as a general rule, if they print half a million copies of it, it won't every be worth more than the cover price.
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# ? May 2, 2014 22:49 |
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Edge & Christian posted:
It's a StarkPhone and it's StarkTube, both which - thanks to salvaged Kree tech - were invented 10 years earlier than IRL. See, solved!
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# ? May 3, 2014 07:30 |
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Considering there's more than 500,000 copies out there now, Spidey #1 is probably the most worthless of any comic on the stands right now (appreciation wise I mean).
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# ? May 3, 2014 15:00 |
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Starsnostars posted:In fairness some are worth something like the Snyder/Capullo Batman. Is that one actually worth anything? I see it on eBay for 3 bucks. First printing.
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# ? May 3, 2014 17:24 |
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If I can't get Grant Morrison then please put Hickman or Zeb Wells or Joe Kelly on the book please. Oh and no more Ramos please. But more because of time for change. I thi N k he gets undeserved hate. Let's go with someone else...I dunno...let's say Immonen or Copiel or...JH Williams or whatever. Go artsy or something. Gatts fucked around with this message at 17:31 on May 3, 2014 |
# ? May 3, 2014 17:29 |
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Who's the artist who did the recent marvel Knights Spider Man because that was awesome.
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# ? May 3, 2014 17:33 |
Gatts posted:If I can't get Grant Morrison then please put Hickman or Zeb Wells or Joe Kelly on the book please. Wells writing with Allred drawing is my current dream Spider-Man book.
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# ? May 3, 2014 19:12 |
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They could even have one of those celebrity name fusions, like Wellred. Can't find the quote, but I remember Morrison saying he'd be a bad fit for Spider-Man.
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# ? May 3, 2014 19:23 |
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TheJoker138 posted:Wells writing with Allred drawing is my current dream Spider-Man book. God, no. I love Allred as much as anyone else but Spider-Man would not be a good book for him.
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# ? May 3, 2014 19:28 |
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Die Laughing posted:They could even have one of those celebrity name fusions, like Wellred. He can work and do something amazing but it means pushing Spider-man into areas the fanboys probably wouldn't be comfortable with and taking him somewhere else. Not a bad fit, he can do great things, he just needs to think it through, but it won't be accepted because its not what people would be used to. Like the whole "lol totems, wtf?" poo poo. Like, finally some writer does something different and interesting, however flawed, but its lambasted because it isn't single Parker luck Spider-man fighting street level crime and cracking wise like I'm used to.
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# ? May 3, 2014 19:28 |
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Morrison said back when he was doing his Marvel work that he just didn't have anything to say with or about Spidey.
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# ? May 3, 2014 19:29 |
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Gatts posted:He can work and do something amazing but it means pushing Spider-man into areas the fanboys probably wouldn't be comfortable with and taking him somewhere else. Not a bad fit, he can do great things, he just needs to think it through, but it won't be accepted because its not what people would be used to. Like the whole "lol totems, wtf?" poo poo. Like, finally some writer does something different and interesting, however flawed, but its lambasted because it isn't single Parker luck Spider-man fighting street level crime and cracking wise like I'm used to. No he just doesn't want to do it, stop making dumb excuses.
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# ? May 3, 2014 20:53 |
I really want Zeb Wells to take over, but if he gave up Elektra for his other work then I just can't see him committing to comics.
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# ? May 3, 2014 21:04 |
Happy Noodle Boy posted:God, no. I love Allred as much as anyone else but Spider-Man would not be a good book for him. The only thing he'd have to work on is the sense of speed Spider-Man has, which doesn't really come across in any of his work I've seen. His action would have to be a bit more dynamic. But I could deal with that not being perfect just for the tone his work sets.
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# ? May 3, 2014 21:18 |
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:God, no. I love Allred as much as anyone else but Spider-Man would not be a good book for him. He did a super good Untold Tales of Spider-Man annual back in the day, but it was probably helped by it being a sixties-set story that really suited his style. Spidey makes a webbing bow tie!
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# ? May 3, 2014 23:36 |
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Mr. Maltose posted:Morrison said back when he was doing his Marvel work that he just didn't have anything to say with or about Spidey.
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# ? May 3, 2014 23:54 |
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Though dated now (in a good way) Marvel Boy was a teenaged superhero with bug-based powers in his own right that was Morrison's attempt to revamp Spider-Man for the early 21st century.
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# ? May 4, 2014 01:41 |
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Gatts posted:He can work and do something amazing but it means pushing Spider-man into areas the fanboys probably wouldn't be comfortable with and taking him somewhere else. Not a bad fit, he can do great things, he just needs to think it through, but it won't be accepted because its not what people would be used to. Like the whole "lol totems, wtf?" poo poo. Like, finally some writer does something different and interesting, however flawed, but its lambasted because it isn't single Parker luck Spider-man fighting street level crime and cracking wise like I'm used to. Yeah, I really really enjoyed the JMS run. It got more and more off the rails towards the end but it was still a lot of fun. Who was writing when Peter became a high-school science teacher in a bad part of town? I feel like that will always be my idea of what adult Peter Parker would do for a living.
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# ? May 4, 2014 07:09 |
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That was part of the JMS run. (It was a favorite of mine, too.) I liked that his writing was true to the sort of, what, wiseass blue collar Spidey thing while at at the same time forcing Peter to grow up in a lot of ways. I also think he nailed how May would react to finding out about Spider-Man. Such a shame they rolled that back because it just played out perfectly.
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# ? May 4, 2014 07:15 |
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:I really want Zeb Wells to take over, but if he gave up Elektra for his other work then I just can't see him committing to comics. Lord I know. The art is amazing, I can only dream of what they could have come up with.
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# ? May 5, 2014 05:25 |
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atomicgeek posted:That was part of the JMS run. (It was a favorite of mine, too.) I liked that his writing was true to the sort of, what, wiseass blue collar Spidey thing while at at the same time forcing Peter to grow up in a lot of ways. Speaking of nailing Spider-Man, the one guy who wrote Spider-Man stuff that, looking back, seems way way off: Erik Larsen. I like his art (except that he can't draw the Hulk, at all), and his (artistic) approach to Peter/MJ/Ock are all fantastic. But his writing approach seemed to miss the intent of the classic books he was going for. When he brought back the Sinister Six (with new member... Gog?), his idea was to give everyone in the Six big guns. I know that was the style at the time, but it was just too thick with mindless crap.
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# ? May 5, 2014 19:42 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 13:41 |
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That panel is so incredibly 90s.
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# ? May 5, 2014 19:43 |