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Okay, fine. It's getting cancelled either way and it'll be better that way as If people really enjoy it and it's that good there won't be loads of issues to collect and it can be a cult hit! Everybody wins.
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May 21, 2014 14:41
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May 21, 2014 15:17
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The astonishing foes The bombastic foes The avenging foes The indestructible foes The invincible foes The uncanny foes Marvel knights foes
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May 21, 2014 15:35
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Oh hey actually talking about the books that are out this issue basically wrapped up all of the secret identity stuff/mind swapness with as little creepiness as possible. Including the Ana-Marie stuff and it's all done straight forward with no confusion.  In fact i'd say it's probably a better issue than #1 even if already the forced Electro stuff feels dated.
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May 21, 2014 21:05
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You know as much as I'd like it to be MJ and for her character to get respect or move on and get her own series I kinda want that chick and the real Peter to continue on for a bit. She's had a bad deal.
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May 21, 2014 21:16
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She's certainly better than anyone else they've thrown at him lately, and a bland Electro story is better than Gwen coming back again.
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May 21, 2014 21:26
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Gatts posted:You know as much as I'd like it to be MJ and for her character to get respect or move on and get her own series I kinda want that chick and the real Peter to continue on for a bit. She's had a bad deal. That is a weird starting point that honestly its best to move on from. That page does actually do a fine enough job for it to end. Suprising to be able to praise Slott but there we go. CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 21:30 on May 21, 2014 |
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May 21, 2014 21:28
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Pleasently surprised at how Anna Maria and the Avengers were handled (despite making the avengers look like total morons), outside of that the book was unimpressive.
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May 21, 2014 21:44
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Gatts posted:You know as much as I'd like it to be MJ and for her character to get respect or move on and get her own series I kinda want that chick and the real Peter to continue on for a bit. She's had a bad deal. I'd rather herself and Peter don't hook up given how messed up her life has been. Though i'll be happy for her not turning evil since that seems the most likely outcome for them.
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May 21, 2014 21:50
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Gatts posted:You know as much as I'd like it to be MJ and for her character to get respect or move on and get her own series I kinda want that chick and the real Peter to continue on for a bit. She's had a bad deal. Anna Maria is terrible and I can't think of any real personality she has. She existed (and still exists kind of) as little more than a morality crutch for Otto.
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May 21, 2014 21:53
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Keep her character at least then. Let her develop.
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May 21, 2014 22:03
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More likely once Ock comes back she'll try to lead him to redemption and then get killed just in time for Ock to be a villian in a movie.
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Senor Candle posted:More likely once Ock comes back she'll try to lead him to redemption and then get killed just in time for Ock to be a villian in a movie. So pull a Doom then. Go back to his roots.
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May 21, 2014 22:07
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Gatts posted:Keep her character at least then. Let her develop. It seems easier just to get a new character if you are just gonna make her develop one.
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May 21, 2014 22:09
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I see the return of sexy female Doc Ock in the future, not to be confused with sexy original recipe Doc Ock.
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Suben posted:Anna Maria is terrible and I can't think of any real personality she has. She existed (and still exists kind of) as little more than a morality crutch for Otto. She's also a one-dimensional perfect girlfriend. Great cook, nerdy, smart, devoted, low self-esteem...
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May 21, 2014 22:57
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Lurdiak posted:She's also a one-dimensional perfect girlfriend. Great cook, nerdy, smart, devoted, low self-esteem... See we keep her from being too perfect by sticking her with an obvious physical handicap and drawing her like a child! ... Can I write Spider-Man for years now?
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They should make Hastings do it, his Deadpool Annual was the best Spidey i've read in a while.  "That's because diet Dr. Pepper doesn't really taste like the real thing, baby!"
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May 22, 2014 02:16
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Peter Parker spearheading the prison industrial complex is honestly worse than anything Slott did on Superior goddamn.
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May 22, 2014 20:33
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At least he's not working in urban renewal like Iron Man.
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Suben posted:Peter Parker spearheading the prison industrial complex is honestly worse than anything Slott did on Superior goddamn. And if he cures Electro of powers, then what's the point of building a supermax super prison?
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May 22, 2014 23:54
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It worked out so well when Reed and Tony built prisons so why not Peter? gently caress Slott.
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May 23, 2014 00:03
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Peter Parker and Hobie Brown take over an old repair shop. Flexible hours, reasonable but never guaranteed or steady income, someone who could cover for him and team up every now and then, constant stream of supporting cast neighbourhood peeps or new characters and their problems, and he and Hobie can futz around with his (or their) gear all they want. Bonus points if the shop has a punny name like All the Fixin's.
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May 23, 2014 02:32
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How about Peter Parker is a former photographer who now teaches high school in a low income section of town? Nah, that would never work.
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TheJoker138 posted:How about Peter Parker is a former photographer who now teaches high school in a low income section of town? It doesn't, really. I'm not dismissing the good character interactions Pete has with some of the kids but being a teacher isn't a hobby. It requires consistent, expected, and long hours. It's not a coincidence superheroes tend to be either independently wealthy or have jobs outside the norm. It's partly why Thor's secret identities have been jettisoned or why Foggy Nelson is critical to Murdock's law practice. Working at a paper has worked for Clark Kent and Peter Parker so well because it gets them close to the action, indirectly provides them with money from their superheroics, and it excuses them for long absences as long as they produce results. If you're going to change Pete's job then he needs something similar or something easy going, which is why Slott had given Peter the most amazing and lenient boss at the tech company.
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I would not at all be surprised if, within the next 12 months, Peter folds Parker Industries (or Anna Maria or Sajani or someoen buys it out) and he goes back to being a photographer. It's strange, because I like Peter being a photographer in many of the media adaptations because it is just such a fun thing to see him try to pull off while super heroing. But it has been done to death so many times. I think the Bugle Cast is important to Spidey and besides people like Betty, it is hard to integrate them without the Bugle. But Peter being a photographer in the comics just bores me to no end.
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notthegoatseguy posted:I would not at all be surprised if, within the next 12 months, Peter folds Parker Industries (or Anna Maria or Sajani or someoen buys it out) and he goes back to being a photographer. It's why Bendis' idea to have him be one of the Bugle's web people was such a great one, beyond the obvious pun. It's the kind of work that he was able to do intermittently without treading the well-worn shutterbug ground and kept him around the Bugle. Nowadays you could have Peter be something like an app developer.
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Peter should be working for Tony and Reed as consultant and be a part time high school or college professor. As far as Jonah is concerned he calls Peter up every day to upload Spidey fails to their YouTube channel that Parker films. Though he doesn't work for him nor is employed by the Bugle as far as Jonah is concerned he owns Peter as an employee anyway yelling at him and trying to be stingy with him. EDIT: To get Parker luck in...Peter will shoot for Victoria Secret. He can be the hip swinging bachelor kids can relate to and live vicariously through. This will allow Peter to travel and put Spidey around the world. Gatts fucked around with this message at 15:07 on May 23, 2014 |
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May 23, 2014 15:04
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The most logical job for Pete to have would just be as a scientist or researcher working for Stark (like he was pre-Civil War) or Reed Richards, who both already know who he is. But that effectively eliminates the potential drama of hiding his identity and explaining his repeated absences so it would never last as the status quo.
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May 23, 2014 15:14
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I wish we could eliminate that drama. He doesn't need that for work just for personal life if at all. Like his excuse is work and people think he's a woekoholic. He's and an adult. Not a high school slacker who is irresponsible to his job...that he needs because he's poor and relatable. Retail it is then.
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Dacap posted:The most logical job for Pete to have would just be as a scientist or researcher working for Stark (like he was pre-Civil War) or Reed Richards, who both already know who he is. But that effectively eliminates the potential drama of hiding his identity and explaining his repeated absences so it would never last as the status quo. I don't like the idea of Peter working for another hero, for several reasons, but I see the issue as being less about the drama and more about how the job would fit into his story or give him something meaningful to do. If he's up in an ivory tower trying to make improvements to the latest Quantum Flummoxer what does that actually mean for Peter, his supporting cast, his adventures, or the reader? At the Bugle or at the school, his job got him directly involved with the people of the city who were in trouble or causing trouble and leaving some guy webbed to a light standard at the end of the issue was a resolution for both his superhero job and regular job. Even Stark, who works for no one but himself, doesn't have stories centered around Making Science, but is concerned with high level captain-of-industry problems and ideals.
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Working for Stark or Reed works to explain how he survives in NYC and is part of his character as a genius. Consulting is part time and connects him to the superhero community and Avengers. Peter teaching as a sub connects him to youth and applies something that is his past and creates drama and doing something productive. Part time photo hog connects him to people and society and city and potentially hot chicks. He holds multiple jobs like relatable youth or some poo poo and juggles responsibilities as his opportunity allows and can put him where he needs to be per story. They are not full time but combine for income.
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May 23, 2014 15:37
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In the old books, Peter got a free apartment through his rich roommate, Harry. And he was never home, either, so he looked like (and, well, kind of was) a freeloader. I think I'd prefer if Peter lived in his childhood bedroom, and Aunt May wondered if he was a failure.
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Instead of working for Stark or Reed, why not just work for himself? If he's such a genius (and that gets played up WAAAY too much) and if it's so necessary for his genius to be part of his work (never mind that his employment consisted entirely of being a lovely photographer for the vast majority of his publication history) then why not be his own boss?
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Lobok posted:Instead of working for Stark or Reed, why not just work for himself? If he's such a genius (and that gets played up WAAAY too much) and if it's so necessary for his genius to be part of his work (never mind that his employment consisted entirely of being a lovely photographer for the vast majority of his publication history) then why not be his own boss? Tactical realism man. He can't run his own company and be Spidey. Too much. He would be a deadbeat boss not paying employees and poo poo as his company goes under and he no take business classes which is mastering the art of bullshit. Real business management is like...not what you see in Comics unless you are lovely rear end Bruce Wayne. He can be his own consultant and charge for services. But whatever. Just be interesting for story.
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Gatts posted:Tactical realism man. He can't run his own company and be Spidey. Too much. He would be a deadbeat boss not paying employees and poo poo as his company goes under and he no take business classes which is mastering the art of bullshit. Real business management is like...not what you see in Comics unless you are lovely rear end Bruce Wayne. He can be his own consultant and charge for services. When I say he should be his own boss I don't mean running a Fortune 500 company. That's why I brought up something like a small shop he can co-own. He gets to use his smarts but in a way more down-to-earth than calibrating Reed's Protonic Widget Array and it keeps him as street level as he can possibly be without being a garbageman or hot dog vendor. You get some supporting cast old dude bringing in a toaster to fix... but he also mentions the proliferation of drug dealers in the area. The guy who owns the bodega next door gets Pete to help fix his refrigerators... and confesses that some mobsters have been leaning on him for protection money. Some kid brings in a gadget of some type he found in his backyard and Pete realizes it's one of Shocker's gauntlets but how did it get in this kid's yard?
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According to ASM 2, Tony actually doesn't know Spidey's identity. Cap seems to know but I don't think he was present during any unmasking scene. Peter was a TA while working on non specific post grad studies back in the 80s. To me, Peter is smart but he's not a genius on the level of Reed or Stark. But he's a great thinker on his feet and has a knack for inventing devices that work with his powers. At times, he's also shown a bit of a journalist in him probably from the years around Jonah, Robbie and Urich. That's a great skill set and he can work well in scientist groups to bring a new perspective, like Hickman did in FF. But I don't think he could go it alone like Reed or Tchalla often do.
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Lobok posted:It doesn't, really. I'm not dismissing the good character interactions Pete has with some of the kids but being a teacher isn't a hobby. It requires consistent, expected, and long hours. It worked fine and there is no reason it couldn't continue. It would be interesting, which I guess is the enemy here. Got to make him a part time tech guy who snooooooore. or he could go back to the bugle and zzzzzzzzzzzz.
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Lobok posted:When I say he should be his own boss I don't mean running a Fortune 500 company. That's why I brought up something like a small shop he can co-own. He gets to use his smarts but in a way more down-to-earth than calibrating Reed's Protonic Widget Array and it keeps him as street level as he can possibly be without being a garbageman or hot dog vendor. You get some supporting cast old dude bringing in a toaster to fix... but he also mentions the proliferation of drug dealers in the area. The guy who owns the bodega next door gets Pete to help fix his refrigerators... and confesses that some mobsters have been leaning on him for protection money. Some kid brings in a gadget of some type he found in his backyard and Pete realizes it's one of Shocker's gauntlets but how did it get in this kid's yard? I am also really down with the All The Fixin's idea.
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