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redscare posted:Have you been to Austin? It's not actually that cool, unless you like your hipsters with a Texas accent. Yeah, I've visited about twelve times over the past four years, and my sister actually lives there. Like I said, it's far superior to SoCal.
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I think we can all agree on two things: 1) Making sweeping generalizations about million+ person metropolitan regions is silly. SF, East/South Bay, LA, Austin, etc all have cool people and places, and awful people and places. 2) Watching tourists in July at the Embarcadero wearing short sleeves and shorts is the gift that keeps on giving.
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May 17, 2014 03:22
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FRINGE posted:*Sitting in OC, the Texas of CA* Incorrect. San Bernardino and Riverside are the Texas of California. For one, we have bros.
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May 17, 2014 03:42
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Unrelated to city chat, the two main Republican assclowns (Kashkari and Donnelly) had a so-called debate on the John and Ken show of all places. It devolved into a horrible shouting match, predictably, making them both somehow look worse. The CA GOP is pathetic.
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May 17, 2014 03:51
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When you have one candidate trying to make a saaaaaaad pitch to millenials with a "got liberty?" slogan and another making a lumberjack commercial where he cuts logs representing taxes and "budget waste" and welfare and whatnot, it's hard for them to look even worse than they already do.
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May 17, 2014 03:58
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Actually from what I've seen and what I've been told if you're a Californian it's a pretty good idea to move to Texas, their general standards for "human being" are so much lower that as long as you're not completely repulsive, your dating/social experiences are probably going to be much easier. In Texas you'll see all sorts of misshapen barf bags holding hands with decent looking folks, something I hardly ever see in Los Angeles. I guess something about the mixture of intensified materialism, celebrity culture and fashion/modeling/etc here tends to fuel, uh, attractiveness stratification or whatever. People are also much more likely to be spontaneously friendly in (some parts of) the south it seems, as long as you don't poison the well by being the wrong kind of minority. Just have a good escape plan that gets you out after you've wifed up the doe-eyed belle and before the air becomes a pure mixture of crude oil volatiles and tex-mex farts. redscare posted:Unrelated to city chat, the two main Republican assclowns (Kashkari and Donnelly) had a so-called debate on the John and Ken show of all places. It devolved into a horrible shouting match, predictably, making them both somehow look worse. The CA GOP is pathetic. I tune in to the Cranky Dads sometimes and caught part of this, them going back and forth about Sharia Law until they had to be told to shut up about it was a real delight.
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Hope everyone here's staying safe, what with the state turning into satan's fiery shithole. 
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That Irish Guy posted:Hope everyone here's staying safe, what with the state turning into satan's fiery shithole.  Agriculture and our rivers are kinda hosed this Summer - snowpack is at 3-10% of normal for this time of year http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cdecapp/snowapp/sweq.action
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May 17, 2014 05:11
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Moon Potato posted:Seriously. I wonder when rationing will start. This summer is going to suck...
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FRINGE posted:*Sitting in OC, the Texas of CA* Long Beach isn't Orange County, it's LA County Also when most people think of Orange County they think of Newport Beach and Laguna an other beach cities when anything north of Santa Ana is quite different.
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And Long Beach is alright, lots of beer, lots of bikes, metro to get you there.
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enraged_camel posted:As someone considering moving from Long Beach, CA to Austin, I'm very much looking forward to it. I've visited the latter multiple times, and as far as I can tell, it has better beer, prettier women who are way less fake, friendlier and more down-to-earth people, and a way more interesting culture. Not to mention actual seasons. As someone about to make the opposite move (from Austin to SoCal, but San Diego specifically), gently caress Austin. I will admit they have a good beer scene, a good tech job market, and good BBQ. That's it. Can't speak to the dating scene as I was married before I moved here, but the friendliness is mostly fake. Maybe down on South Congress there's a lot of happy hipsters, but everywhere north of that is full of SoCal expats or Texas lifers who's first question is "which college did you attend" or "which church do you attend". If they don't like your answer then they'll continue to be nice to your face but never more than that. Also, the only seasons in Austin are winter and summer; nice spring/fall weather lasts about a month if you're lucky. The rest of the time be prepared for sweltering heat, biting wind, or both!
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Someone rename this "Californians can't stop talking about Texas" thread. Because clearly its what everyone wants to do.
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As a recent transplant to Oakland, who are the most D&D candidates to vote for in the primary? I know it is a way out but I want to start vandalizing campaign offices sooner rather than later. It's more of a SoCal thing, but I'm thinking arson is in this season.
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Dusseldorf posted:And even the Legion of Honor has a horrible art collection. It only has a nice view going for it. It isn't the most expansive collection to be sure, but it has a fairly good late medieval through eighteenth century collection especially for a relatively small museum in the Unites States and they often bring in good temporary exhibits. I'd rather go there than the Stanford art museum, which is a genuinely lackluster collection, any day of the week.
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Shbobdb posted:As a recent transplant to Oakland, who are the most D&D candidates to vote for in the primary? I know it is a way out but I want to start vandalizing campaign offices sooner rather than later. It's more of a SoCal thing, but I'm thinking arson is in this season. The most D&D candidates would probably be US green party members that have no chance of winning.
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Trabisnikof posted:Someone rename this "Californians can't stop talking about Texas" thread. Because clearly its what everyone wants to do. Texas is the state California gets compared to the most, and there are very good reasons for it.
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enraged_camel posted:Texas is the state California gets compared to the most, and there are very good reasons for it. They both are filled with people who think their state is the best? I'm fine with discussing actual policy or political differences between the two states, however talking about "which town is coolest" is going to end with nothing but people arguing about who has the best subjective opinion. Obviously if one moved away from somewhere voluntarily, one may not like the place one left. Shocking. Shbobdb posted:As a recent transplant to Oakland, who are the most D&D candidates to vote for in the primary? I know it is a way out but I want to start vandalizing campaign offices sooner rather than later. It's more of a SoCal thing, but I'm thinking arson is in this season. Well, the only person that voted against the war in Afghanistan represents a large chunk of Oakland so she's pretty d&d.
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This song should be in the OP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMix60cXETU
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Shbobdb posted:As a recent transplant to Oakland, who are the most D&D candidates to vote for in the primary? I know it is a way out but I want to start vandalizing campaign offices sooner rather than later. It's more of a SoCal thing, but I'm thinking arson is in this season. For mayor, that'd be Shake Anderson of the Oakland Greens. Full disclosure: he and the greens adopted the community democracy project, to bring full, direct democracy to Oakland, as part of their platform. My girlfriend's a core organizer for CDP. This be their website: http://communitydemocracyproject.org/ (shameless plug)
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Mofabio posted:For mayor, that'd be Shake Anderson of the Oakland Greens. Wow, now that's a bad website. Regardless...so this system would create a whole new system of districts, a whole new city council aka "Congress of Directors" just for budgeting. Oh yeah, and the kicker only people who have the time/money to attend meetings gets to vote for the elected representatives that would theoretically control the budget. Yup, if you don't have time to attend at least 1 of the only 10 community meeting a year, you don't even deserve to be notified of budget votes let alone vote in it. And people say this somehow would increase participation instead of just further concentrating power in those already able to wield it. Also there are exactly 0 restrictions on the day or time that these meetings will be held. In what conceivable way is that convoluted system better just having the budget go up for a city-wide vote (that all voters can vote in)? Edit: Holy poo poo, I just read through this proposal again and realize that in fact those committees and meetings are all meaningless because at the end of the day the budget vote (still limited to people who can attend meetings) will decide the % allocated to each department. So why create several new full-time staff positions and literally hundreds of new meetings and committees? Trabisnikof fucked around with this message at 04:12 on May 19, 2014 |
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Is there anyone who isn't a Green? I'd rather vote PSL than Green (and did, in the last Presidential election).
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Shbobdb posted:Is there anyone who isn't a Green? I'd rather vote PSL than Green (and did, in the last Presidential election). I didn't see much when I got my vote-by-mail ballot, no. At least, nothing on the left, IIRC.
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Mofabio posted:For mayor, that'd be Shake Anderson of the Oakland Greens. I'm sure the state really needs another direct democracy experiment.
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Oh hey the UC grad student union is planning on doing a statewide strike during finals week, that's going to go over well.
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Bizarro Watt posted:Oh hey the UC grad student union is planning on doing a statewide strike during finals week, that's going to go over well. They listened to my complaints, huzzah. Now it's time to get out there and educate people why we're doing this.
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I recently had the "pleasure" of driving through the Central Valley from Chico to Hemet and back. With the primaries coming up, I got to see a lot of political advertising and sloganeering and noticed a few similarities and differences between the North and South ends of the state. Rural politicians in Northern and Southern California all seem to like putting loving cowboy hats on their signs, as if to say to voters "I'm a white-bread redneck just like you who shares your (racist) values." In Southern California, water was definitely a much bigger issue than in the north. I saw several advertisements stating "Solve The Water Crisis!" implying that there was a political solution to getting more water for crops growing in the desert during an extreme drought. One sign did offer a solution: Tell Los Angeles and San Diego to cut their consumption! Clearly, that's going to make a big difference despite the fact that 85% of California's water already goes to agriculture. I'm flying next time.
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Spoondick posted:I recently had the "pleasure" of driving through the Central Valley from Chico to Hemet and back. With the primaries coming up, I got to see a lot of political advertising and sloganeering and noticed a few similarities and differences between the North and South ends of the state. Rural politicians in Northern and Southern California all seem to like putting loving cowboy hats on their signs, as if to say to voters "I'm a white-bread redneck just like you who shares your (racist) values." In Southern California, water was definitely a much bigger issue than in the north. I saw several advertisements stating "Solve The Water Crisis!" implying that there was a political solution to getting more water for crops growing in the desert during an extreme drought. One sign did offer a solution: Tell Los Angeles and San Diego to cut their consumption! Clearly, that's going to make a big difference despite the fact that 85% of California's water already goes to agriculture. I'm flying next time. Last time I had the (mis)pleasure of driving up I-5, I saw signs shilling "Farmers protecting the valley" and lumping in LA and San Diego along with them for "solidarity" purposes. I've already mentioned Kashkari's lumberjack ad, so I won't go into it again. Trabisnikof posted:My favorites are the ones that have been up forever, including the classic "CONGRESS CREATED DUSTBOWL". Man holy crap, has it really already been four to five years since those went up? Hell, I still recall the "JOBS JOBS JOBS VOTE FIORINA 2010" sign that was somewhere in Stanislaus County on I-5 in mid-2011. Jerry Manderbilt fucked around with this message at 19:11 on May 19, 2014 |
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My favorites are the ones that have been up forever, including the classic "CONGRESS CREATED DUSTBOWL". FOOD GROWS WHERE WATER FLOWS
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Man holy crap, has it really already been four to five years since those went up? Those ones have been up forever. I remember seeing the "FOOD GROWS WHERE WATER FLOWS" on a trip through the central valley when I was a kid. Apparently now flood irrigation in a desert is a good thing because it "recharges the aquifer" and isn't really inefficient (skip to 32:45) http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201404220900
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San Francisco can't get enough of income inequality. http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Income-inequality-on-par-with-developing-nations-5486434.php quote:San Francisco likes to think of itself politically, socially and culturally as akin to European countries. mA fucked around with this message at 22:56 on May 19, 2014 |
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SporkOfTruth posted:They listened to my complaints, huzzah. Now it's time to get out there and educate people why we're doing this. Yeah good luck with that.
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Perhaps this is a little hyperlocal, but there was this blog post about some lady's experience at a neighborhood planning meeting (and why SF residents are the reason we can't get more housing) http://bernalwood.wordpress.com/201...ousing-problem/ quote:As you know from this post, there is a proposed 6-unit development attempting to go in at two of the empty interior lots inside York, Hampshire, Cesar Chavez & Peralta. I live on the 200 block of Peralta, not immediately bordering the land, but up a bit.
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Hog Obituary posted:Perhaps this is a little hyperlocal, but there was this blog post about some lady's experience at a neighborhood planning meeting (and why SF residents are the reason we can't get more housing) Wait doesn't that post makes it sound like the developer wasn't stopped by the meeting, but just had to listen to some idiots? That seems like a fair deal in exchange for a sweet payday. I mean, if you look at the number of new units added in SF versus say the 50 square miles to the north or the 50 square miles to the south, SF has added a lot more units, and is at a considerably higher density. I don't think SF (or Oakland for that matter) is the real issue when it comes to a lack of housing in the Bay Area. edit: 50 != 5 Trabisnikof fucked around with this message at 01:52 on May 20, 2014 |
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Trabisnikof posted:Wait doesn't that post makes it sound like the developer wasn't stopped by the meeting, but just had to listen to some idiots? That seems like a fair deal in exchange for a sweet payday. It's absolutely the issue because people are being pushed out in to Vallejo and Walnut Creek for 50 mile commutes they (and no one else) wants because the city cores are stagnant with regard to housing. If the suburbs in Marin or wherever aren't building housing that's great for everyone because it means fewer people are jamming everything up every day.
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Dusseldorf posted:It's absolutely the issue because people are being pushed out in to Vallejo and Walnut Creek for 50 mile commutes they (and no one else) wants because the city cores are stagnant with regard to housing. If the suburbs in Marin or wherever aren't building housing that's great for everyone because it means fewer people are jamming everything up every day. SF is increasing the number of units available. Its already one of the densest cities in the US, meanwhile Daly City and the peninsula have a commuter rail connection and 0 desire to grow their housing, even as their employment base grows. There are 6,000 new units of housing under construction in SF right now and up to another 44,000 in the pipeline. That's about as much as ABAG estimates San Mateo county will build by 2040. That's the problem, that our transit connected suburbs refuse to densify.
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Ah Pook posted:Actually from what I've seen and what I've been told if you're a Californian it's a pretty good idea to move to Texas, their general standards for "human being" are so much lower Hmm, that doesn't actually sound very appealing.
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Trabisnikof posted:My favorites are the ones that have been up forever, including the classic "CONGRESS CREATED DUSTBOWL". If you don't know where these come from (or couldn't guess), this guy does a write-up on the Central Valley. quote:Water = Jobs
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There was a short article in today's Washington Post (online blog edition) about the California Republican Party's desperate attempt at relevance, specifically the governor's race. They're freaking out about the possibility of Tim Donnelly winning the primary. In fact, they're so worried that they're actually kicking money to what is doubtlessly a lost cause in an attempt to keep the party from sinking even further into irrelevance. Read on ahead!quote:When Brown beat former eBay executive Meg Whitman (R) by 13 points in 2010, he lost several of those districts. Republicans believe they can compete if Brown wins again, even by 20 points. But if Brown faces Donnelly and wins by a wider margin, he could pull Democrats across the finish line in those down-ballot races.
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Trabisnikof posted:SF is increasing the number of units available. Its already one of the densest cities in the US, meanwhile Daly City and the peninsula have a commuter rail connection and 0 desire to grow their housing, even as their employment base grows. This is pretty much the best article I read on the Bay Area housing problem: http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/14/sf-housing/
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