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Dec 29, 2008
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Christoff posted:

Haha so what's the policy for recalling after hours? They tried to recall some of us for some bs but 4/5 of us had been drinking. It wasn't even a lie we're just all alcoholics. Sure I'll hear about it today. I know you only have one hour to respond to a recall or some poo poo, correct? I think I remember a guy getting written up for not responding fast enough.

This was like every week with us for a while. It became a game to see who would get caught sober enough to be called back, culminating in guys chugging 40s in the parking lot before driving home. Of course we weren't clinic corpsmen and didn't, you know, live in the barracks right by work or anything

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Dec 29, 2008
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This story is hilariously barefaced nonsense

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SketchesOfSpain01 posted:

Awe poo poo. I'm handing in my resignation now!

My wife, who is a russian spy, confirmed this to be a credible source of information ready for dissemination to our troops across the American Nation.

I'm just amazed that all 27 of the crew resigned, you'd think one guy would hang around just to play Captain Of One until a new crew showed up

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Dec 29, 2008
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No you see glorious fatherland Sukhoi driver looked into the porthole windows on the warship hull and he could see the CRT screens on the imperialist Aegis going blank

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I cannot imagine how hosed an enlisted barracks has to get for officers to get involved.

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Dec 29, 2008
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That guy and that story sound dumber than mud

quote:

One group member told authorities that there were political motivations, but their anti-government sentiments were not fully explained.

"They were somewhat politically inclined. We were not able to identify a particular political stance that this group took," Souders said.

:allears:

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Dec 29, 2008
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If you're thinking of getting out it's not a bad idea to talk to the headhunters. I used Bradley-Morris when I got out, they got me a really good job basically over a weekend. A buddy of mine went through Orion International and in a roundabout way that's how I found my new job.

That assumes you're not doing the GI Bill - undergrad track right away, which is the smart thing to do.

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Dec 29, 2008
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Some people like changing shirts and doing the same job. When Igot out I wanted good distance from Navy stuff entirely. To each his own.

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Mr. Nice! posted:

screaming high and tight

Pro namechange option

What's the old school white PT shirt? The one that says NAVY in silly 3Dish grey letters?

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Dec 29, 2008
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SketchesOfSpain01 posted:

They have this regulation because they didn't want it falling down past a woman's chest during calisthenics. It does make some sense, but by golly does it look absolutely absurd.

It's a good thing they have blanket regs like this because I can't imagine how grown rear end adults would have ever figured out how to cope with this scenario on their own

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Dec 29, 2008
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I'm reading in a paper trade publication that the Navy wants to have 50% of its shorebased power using green energy by 2020. Considering how obscenely more expensive some of this is than regular juice, it's pretty funny in the context of the "our barracks are moldy and collapsing and there's no money to fix them" talk.

Disclaimer: I've personally profited from this

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Dec 29, 2008
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Yeah, let's say that's a very... optimistic assessment. We're not exactly talking the beat-the-Reds-at-all-costs motivations that got nuclear power realized.

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vulturesrow posted:

I like seeing people decide they are going to do the machine and then not practicing at all until the PRT. I love watching the smug turn into pain (at least for those that are trying to do well on it). I'm a bike guy myself but I use it enough to know what resistance and RPM give me the best numbers. :spergin: I do it because I have a bum knee but I think the filthy air at Lemoore is a plenty good reason to not run.

I did this for my last PRT but with the swim instead of the bike (also because of a bum knee), got my rear end thoroughly whipped and barely failed. I thought I was doing pretty drat well pacing myself faster than all the chiefs but then they mysteriously hopped out two or three laps early.

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SketchesOfSpain01 posted:

Tear your ACL on your left knee and a few other ligaments in the right knee and try to run the PRT a year later. Happens.

MCLs in my case but pretty much.

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Dec 29, 2008
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You would think funeral coordinators would be the last people to need bodies.

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poopkitty posted:

But seriously, which parts are incorrect? I saw it as mostly opinion, but I'm curious.

Here's one way of putting it:

His assertion is that the natural state of a bunch of generally young dudes is roughhousing, grabass and smut. Ok, sure, I'm not sure how much that's true, but whatever.

An expression you'll often here is 'herding cats'. You can get cats (or cattle, or whatever) to flow a certain direction if you gently convince them that's the way they wanted to go in the first place. If you try to be heavy handed or make big brutal changes in direction, not only will they not go, they'll jam up and resist, and inefficient chaos ensues.

The fundamental job of the Navy is warfighting. Not minimizing sexual harassment, etc etc. Enacting the US's political will, by force when needed. There is value in projecting a certain clean image for PR reasons, so you don't get entanglements that interfere with enacting that will (because your fire control team is in jail, for instance) and there's also some value in projecting a certain dirty image, because having people think you're untouchable motherfuckers can get you out of fights before they start, and that goes further than the liberty port cathouse. That latter bit tends to get forgotten.

The key here is that if the natural state of sailors is debauchery and you need them to be highly trained and hardened killers (or cooks, or enginemen or whatever) what you should be focusing on is how to nudge them with the least possible tangential force in that direction. Division/department training on their own equipment and procedures helps with that. SARP etc where you demonize them and their de facto lifestyle (often) does not, and every minute you spend on it is one you're not putting towards improving warfighting, or one of any other beneficial activities (including letting the motherfuckers get some shuteye.) You may not be able to maintain the social standards of a modern university, but you're not dealing with university-caliber kids in most cases anyway, and universities don't have to worry about DC efforts when people hurl missiles at them, how to handle boats full of unruly refugees, how to remain undetected when off the coast of Country Orange, etc.

In fact, focusing on telling your sailors they're pieces of poo poo for things you haven't convinced them are evil (like engine room grabass or putting dirty granny porn in someone's rack) is like throwing a wall in front of a pack of cats; they're not going to accept it and go shooting off in the direction you want, they're going to a) get frustrated at whoever's throwing this poo poo in their faces and b) redouble their efforts on getting around it. Neither of those help your cause, which should be warfighting.

Basically the standard should be, do what you need to do to keep someone from getting genuinely hurt (physically or mentally), but recognize your sailors aren't and can't be allowed to be delicate flowers, because they need to be able to cope with poo poo hitting the fan. And just because things happen down in the machinery spaces that aren't fit to show to small children doesn't mean it's a crisis.

You can get into the team-building and trust aspects of some of the 'hazing' in a job where you're often quite literally depending on people to do their job right, three levels away, possibly while you're sleeping, or you're going to loving die, but that's more controversial.

The guy also confuses the heckler's veto with democracy, and I'd argue really underestimates how much the Navy knee-jerks at a macro level, but that's beyond the scope.

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Dec 29, 2008
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Why would you want someone who fights like a fascist? They always lose???

Also OKComrade's facebook page is pretty much a cornucopia of crazy, thanks for the tip

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Fart Sandwiches posted:

Does anyone have that resume some black navy officer chick sent to her gaining command? It was like some wack powerpoint with misspellings and stuff.

BY THE POWER OF GOOGLE

http://cdrsalamander.blogspot.com/2012/02/sunday-funnies.html

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LingcodKilla posted:

Wife beaters like easy targets.

Well he wants someone who 'fucks like an anarchist' and anarchists just want to lie there and have other people do all the work, so

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Goofy's a better fit for Vas than Pluto

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