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Touchdown Boy: Apr 1, 2007; I saw my friend there out on the field today, I asked him where he's going, he said "All the way."

That is pretty impressive actually. They screwed over the legal system handily there.

# ? May 1, 2014 13:27

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# ? Apr 28, 2024 01:31

Trickjaw: Jun 23, 2005; Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene

In the never ending march of Kippers 'Telling It Like It Is' this chap cannot be sexist because 'his best friend is a girl' and not racist because he 'brought home a curry last night'

quote:

James Elgar, 19, denied being sexist or racist and said his views on subjects such as immigration, taxes and crime were "moderate" and not radical

The Twitter feed of a 19-year-old UKIP election candidate has been reported to Runnymede Borough Council�s Electoral Services for comments deemed to be racist and sexist.

James Elgar, of Brox Road, Ottershaw, has been selected to stand in Egham Hythe ward in local elections on Thursday May 22, despite reports from UKIP London that his membership lapsed on January 1.

The party�s head office has condemned Mr Elgar�s account as "deplorable" and said they would be launching an investigation into how he managed to be nominated.

His Twitter account and various messages posted from it were reported to the council �s electoral services manager, Samantha Clifton, on Friday (April 25) following which Mr Elgar�s public profile was made private with restricted access.

The Twitter feed, published under the handle @James_Elgar, included a string of comments containing racist and sexist remarks, including references to hijacked planes, rape by "Asian boys" and "foreigners and weirdos".

On April 1, the user tweeted: �I am running for councillor of Egham...This is going to be hard-work. But on the plus side maybe Ibiza again this year!�

Other tweets included: �There is no women in the CBB final? That�s because they are all in the kitchen where they belong...�

The nominee, who posted a picture of his UKIP membership card in February 2013, is currently banned from Woking Football Club�s Kingfield Stadium for the 2013/2014 season due to irresponsible behaviour. He posted a photo on Twitter of the letter confirming this with the message: �I�m not deemed responsible enough to been [sic] near a home game LOL!�

His father, Mark Elgar, defended his son�s tweets as "banter" and said they were "random soundbites taken out of context" and did not reflect his son�s character.

�He is the least sexist and racist person you could ever meet, his best friend is a girl and he works with people from Czechoslovakia, Pakistan and Afghanistan,� he said. �Last night he came home at 10.30pm with a curry.�

When asked directly about the nature of some of the tweets, James Elgar said they were "irrelevant" as they were before he was running for election.

In an email, he added: �These comments have not been put into context, they just seem to be extracts, not showing the whole conversation.

�Some comments are just quotes from films, some are over a year old and some of these comments are not even recognised by me as my own.�

He said it was "customary" for teenagers to use profanity but said it had been a lesson to him to avoid it in future.

�I am a 19-year-old youth trying, early in my life, to make a difference through legitimate politics and to support UKIP in a positive and progressive manner,� he said.

�I am no way supporting racist, sexist or radical views, far from it, my views are moderate when it comes to subjects such as immigration, taxes and crime.�

A spokesman for UKIP said: �These sort of comments and images are utterly deplorable.

�Mr Elgar would appear to be a young man who still has plenty of growing up to do.

�Our inquiries reveal that his UKIP membership in fact lapsed on January 1 2014 and we shall not accept any renewal application from him.

�We shall be conducting our own internal investigation as to how a lapsed member was allowed to become a candidate in Runnymede in the local elections, let alone some-one who had expressed and/or passed on these kinds of sentiments on social media.�

http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/ukip-teenage-election-candidate-defends-7057062#.U2IBHb5yyag.twitter

He also used the hashtag ect, ect, ect. For some reason, that always grates on me. So, how many of these lovely people coming out of the woodwork does it take to go from 'an individuals unfortunate views' to a general consensus within the party?

# ? May 1, 2014 13:32

Answers Me: Apr 24, 2012

I can't even imagine just how insufferable a 19 year old UKIP supporter is.

# ? May 1, 2014 13:39

SybilVimes: Oct 29, 2011

Trickjaw posted:

�Last night he came home at 10.30pm with a curry.�

"He's even eaten things as diverse as kebabs, and once stayed on al jazeera longer than a half second while changing channel, he can't possibly be a racist, besides, I didn't bring him up to expose his views about niggers and whores in public"

# ? May 1, 2014 13:42

LemonDrizzle: Mar 28, 2012; neoliberal shithead

More housing stuff- the Bank of England and Treasury are looking into the possibility of replacing their current preferred measure of inflation (CPI) with one that accounts for housing costs:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10799758/Treasury-may-change-inflation-target-to-include-housing-costs.html

quote:

Britain's headline measure of inflation may be modified to include housing costs, after a top Bank of England official revealed it had held further talks with the Treasury about switching to a more �useful� gauge of price rises.
Andy Haldane, the Bank�s incoming chief economist, told MPs on Wednesday that Bank staff had held technical discussions with the Treasury to assess whether it would be appropriate to switch the Bank's 2pc target from the consumer prices index (CPI) to the new CPIH measure, which was introduced in March 2013. CPIH includes housing costs such as mortgage interest payments, which represent about 10pc of consumer spending.

...

CPI inflation stood at 1.6pc in March, compared with CPIH inflation of 1.5pc. The retail prices index (RPI) measure of inflation, which is no longer classed as an official statistic by the ONS, but is still used to calculate pay deals and fare increases, stood at 2.5pc.

It's surprising that CPIH inflation was lower than CPI last month, although I suppose with ultra-low interest rates and the fact that most mortgage holders will have bought at pre-bubble prices, it will be some time before aggregate mortgage payments reflect increases in current sales prices.

Also, Shelter and KPMG have released their full report into the state of the housing market - the Graun have summarized its contents here.

quote:

The average price of a house in England could double in the next decade and hit more than �900,000 by 2034, unless there is a radical new housebuilding programme to provide nearly a quarter of a million new homes a year, a report claims today.

...

The report urges the next government to take a series of actions which Shelter and KPMG say could make a difference within a single parliament. The key measures include giving planning authorities the power to create "New Homes Zones" where there would be no development tax and landowners would be able to invest their assets in exchange for shares in any future increases in value. Other measures suggested to ease the property market include unlocking stalled sites by charging council tax on homes that should have been built after a reasonable period; and introducing a new National Housing Investment Bank to provide low cost, long-term loans for housing providers.

The recommendations in the report itself are actually a bit more radical than the ones the Graun chose to highlight - they also want mandatory national minimum space standards for new homes and major increases in funding for housing associations and council house building. Likelihood of this stuff actually happening: questionable.

# ? May 1, 2014 13:45

JFairfax: Oct 23, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

Why is slope offensive?

# ? May 1, 2014 13:49

Darth Walrus: Feb 13, 2012

JFairfax posted:

Why is slope offensive?

I'm assuming it's related to the whole 'slanty-eyed Asian' thing.

# ? May 1, 2014 13:52

SybilVimes: Oct 29, 2011

Darth Walrus posted:

I'm assuming it's related to the whole 'slanty-eyed Asian' thing.

The way I heard it explained was that it was actually related to the standard 'coolie hat' giving vietnamese a "sloped head" appearance, which became 'slope head' as an insult, which then shortened to 'slope'.

# ? May 1, 2014 13:57

thehustler: Apr 17, 2004; I am very curious about this little crescendo

I'm leaving my job today and a nice lady in the office next door whose name I don't know bought me a Penguin book, The Case for Communism, because we once had a long conversation about politics in the kitchen over lunch.

That's nice

# ? May 1, 2014 14:03

JFairfax: Oct 23, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

SybilVimes posted:

The way I heard it explained was that it was actually related to the standard 'coolie hat' giving vietnamese a "sloped head" appearance, which became 'slope head' as an insult, which then shortened to 'slope'.

Huh, well the more you know I guess. Can't say I recall hearing that in any of the Vietnam war movies I've watched.

# ? May 1, 2014 14:15

JoylessJester: Sep 13, 2012

Clarkson obscured what he said to be funny and edgy. He's annoyed people think he said the N-word based on the PC GONE MAD act that made him rich (and the fact he totally does). The slope gaffe was annoying because he denied knowing it was a racist term, but the wordplay only worked if he knew it was a term for an Asian man. Sadly he'll keep his million pound BBC job despite a string of acts of casual racism and use it as a platform to attack the BBC and political correctness.

But in good news Labours come out with rent controls which are a)something I like because it'd benefit me and b) will be fairly popular. A couple more decent bits of policy and maybe I might hold my nose and vote for them. Maybe.

# ? May 1, 2014 14:16

IceAgeComing: Jan 29, 2013; pretty fucking embarrassing to watch

I was looking over the candidates in the Euro election in Scotland: we have the people that you'd expect (Labour, Tories, Lib Dems, SNP, UKIP, Greens, BNP); some BNP splinter group called "Britain First" and No2EU. There's at least left unity this time since the SSP and the SLP aren't bothering to stand candidates, although I can't see them coming any higher than seventh: and that's me being optimistic about how much the BNP vote will move to either UKIP, back to Labour or split with the BNP splitter party. The No2EU idea is a could one with Euroscepticism being high, although its a failed venture because Eurospecticism in the UK isn't reasonable but based on "IMMIGRANTS STEALING ARE JOBS!!!", which a left-wing party can't really support without being a little hypocritical...

# ? May 1, 2014 14:17

Answers Me: Apr 24, 2012

JoylessJester posted:

But in good news Labours come out with rent controls which are a)something I like because it'd benefit me and b) will be fairly popular. A couple more decent bits of policy and maybe I might hold my nose and vote for them. Maybe.

But they're :supaburn:

VENEZUELAN AND SOCIALIST :supaburn:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/30/ed-miliband-labour-rental-market-reforms-property

# ? May 1, 2014 14:21

SybilVimes: Oct 29, 2011

JFairfax posted:

Huh, well the more you know I guess. Can't say I recall hearing that in any of the Vietnam war movies I've watched.

It is used in Apocolypse now, and I think I remember hearing it in another (possibly 4th july).

I heard pretty much every anti-asian slur at school (you know, being white and all :shrug:

), and many of them didn't make any sense, so I'd occasionally ask an adult wtf it was supposed to be insulting.

# ? May 1, 2014 14:22

Pistol_Pete: Sep 15, 2007; Oven Wrangler

Manic_Misanthrope posted:

So how complicated are we talking about to make it impossible to prosecute?

What are you planning

Also, Ed Milliband's on the right track with these rental reforms, judging by the squeals coming from the relevant vested interests:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/2014/may/01/nick-clegg-hosts-his-call-clegg-phone-in-politics-live-blog

quote:

Capping rents could potentially lead to landlords simply withdrawing from the market if they don't get the price they need to make their investment economically sound.

Those poor landlords :cry:

# ? May 1, 2014 14:22

Nevett: Aug 31, 2001

If landlords have to sell up (which is a nonsense scare move anyway), that'd also help ease the housing market too, right? Two birds, one stone.

# ? May 1, 2014 14:28

Spangly A: May 14, 2009; God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Umiapik posted:

Those poor landlords

I always love hilarious alarmist bullshit like that.

They're just going to leave all that money sitting there? Doing nothing? So... demand will drop, causing price to drop, until house prices are low enough again to make rent-capped rates profitable?

Get on my level tories :smuggo:

# ? May 1, 2014 14:31

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Umiapik posted:

Those poor landlords

I assume that most cases of landlords "withdrawing from the market" would involve putting their houses up for sale, which would depress prices a bit? Or would the insanity of the bubble result in them just holding onto them and seeing the appreciating value as a replacement for rental income?

e: beaten

# ? May 1, 2014 14:32

Phoon: Apr 23, 2010

They phrase it like a landlord withdrawing from the market will somehow take the building with them somewhere else

# ? May 1, 2014 14:36

MyFaceBeHi: Apr 9, 2008; I was popular, once.

IceAgeComing posted:

some BNP splinter group called "Britain First"

A facebook "friend" of mine has liked their page after sharing some story about how Burkas are evil because "WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?!?!?! :tinfoil:

"

Needless to say, after a quick glance of their facebook page, I promptly unfriended the guy. It was about as bad as the supposed banned 2014 BNP video that is doing the rounds on youtube.

# ? May 1, 2014 14:43

ookiimarukochan: Apr 4, 2011

KKKlean Energy posted:

Or would the insanity of the bubble result in them just holding onto them and seeing the appreciating value as a replacement for rental income?

That would involve BTL landlords not having mortgages to pay, which I can't imagine being the case.

# ? May 1, 2014 14:59

Nevett: Aug 31, 2001

MyFaceBeHi posted:

It was about as bad as the supposed banned 2014 BNP video that is doing the rounds on youtube.

Wat. That wasn't parody?

# ? May 1, 2014 15:09

Hbomberguy: Jul 4, 2009; [culla=big red]TufFEE did nO THINg WÌ¡RAÌ¸NG[/read]

What does this thread think about All Women Shortlists?

# ? May 1, 2014 15:18

Cerv: Sep 14, 2004; This is a silly post with little news value.

ookiimarukochan posted:

That would involve BTL landlords not having mortgages to pay, which I can't imagine being the case.

mortgages with T&Cs attached making sure they rent the property out for as much as possible

quite disapointing that Milliband says that any existing BtL mortgage that specifies no rental terms greater than one year (ie most of them) will be exempt from the law guaranteeing the availibilty of 3 year tennancy agreements. why not just render that clause of mortgage contract unenforcable?

# ? May 1, 2014 15:26

Drone_Fragger: May 9, 2007

It is well known that when landlords stop renting property out they demolish them.

Also is it normal for campaigners to threaten to "shank you one" unless you vote UKIP? Just a quick question.

# ? May 1, 2014 15:30

SybilVimes: Oct 29, 2011

Drone_Fragger posted:

Also is it normal for campaigners to threaten to "shank you one" unless you vote UKIP? Just a quick question.

The Ex-BNP ones? Probably.

# ? May 1, 2014 15:30

Trickjaw: Jun 23, 2005; Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene

Drone_Fragger posted:

It is well known that when landlords stop renting property out they demolish them.

Also is it normal for campaigners to threaten to "shank you one" unless you vote UKIP? Just a quick question.

Only the ones who have spent time in prison.

# ? May 1, 2014 15:33

Manic_Misanthrope: Jul 1, 2010

Umiapik posted:

What are you planning

Nothing major, just a few billion.

# ? May 1, 2014 15:35

Loonytoad Quack: Aug 24, 2004; High on Shatner's Bassoon

ookiimarukochan posted:

That would involve BTL landlords not having mortgages to pay, which I can't imagine being the case.

If you rent a house out you're stupid not to have a mortgage as you can offset the interest on it against your income, the current system literally encourages it.

# ? May 1, 2014 15:46

Rush Limbo: Sep 5, 2005; its with a full house

Shakespearean Beef posted:

Oh come on, this is a complete non-issue, an actual case of PC gone mad. Most people these days realise that Political Correctness is more about controlling the cognitive behaviour of the masses than protecting minorities, a current example would be how UKIP is constantly spammed with racist accusations rather than well thought out policy alternatives. Clarkson is an intelligent man and I would think his politically incorrect slip ups are designed to be rebellious against this Frankfurt school style manipulation rather than be offensive to either minorities or in the case of Asian people who represent 60% of the global population majorities.

Haha, oh wow.

No, Racists are stupid fucks and should be shunned and ostracized because it's literally the only way to enact societal change.

If there's anything the past several thousand years of human history have taught us it's that the way to get what you want is to use strongly worded letters and disapproving tuts, right?

e: did I just get trolled? It's so hard to tell these days.

I've got a 2 hour round trip tomorrow because someone completely hosed the locks in the jobcentre I have to go to normally so we're being forced to go to one pretty much in the next town over.

Rush Limbo fucked around with this message at 15:51 on May 1, 2014

# ? May 1, 2014 15:48

IceAgeComing: Jan 29, 2013; pretty fucking embarrassing to watch

MyFaceBeHi posted:

A facebook "friend" of mine has liked their page after sharing some story about how Burkas are evil because "WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?!?!?!"

Needless to say, after a quick glance of their facebook page, I promptly unfriended the guy. It was about as bad as the supposed banned 2014 BNP video that is doing the rounds on youtube.

They're standing in two regions including Scotland: I question why a far-right British nationalist party would waste their time standing in Scotland when the BNP got 2.5% in the last Euros, the height of their success across the UK...

# ? May 1, 2014 15:52

Trickjaw: Jun 23, 2005; Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene

Ddraig posted:

Haha, oh wow.

No, Racists are stupid fucks and should be shunned and ostracized because it's literally the only way to enact societal change.

If there's anything the past several thousand years of human history have taught us it's that the way to get what you want is to use strongly worded letters and disapproving tuts, right?

e: did I just get trolled? It's so hard to tell these days.

I've got a 2 hour round trip tomorrow because someone completely hosed the locks in the jobcentre I have to go to normally so we're being forced to go to one pretty much in the next town over.

Its Shakey, and he got you

# ? May 1, 2014 15:52

Rush Limbo: Sep 5, 2005; its with a full house

Trickjaw posted:

Its Shakey, and he got you

Well don't I feel like a prat. Oh well, my anger is still justified if wrongly directed.

Apparantly someone forced superglue into the main staff entrance for the jobcentre, then shattered the cylinders, so rather than going in through the pleb entrance, they've decided to close up shop and send everyone to a different place. Appointment times are still the same, apparantly, so if you don't find out the jobcentre is shut and you go to that one expecting to be seen, you're going to get sanctioned, son!

# ? May 1, 2014 15:56

LemonDrizzle: Mar 28, 2012; neoliberal shithead

The telegraph explains the housing woes of young people today: they are all lazy rentailures who just can't be arsed to spend time hunting for a good place.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/10801103/Dont-blame-the-recession-Im-moving-back-home-because-Im-lazy.html

quote:

So, to all the parents getting those phone calls from their former babies glumly announcing they�ll �need to move home for a while�, don�t automatically assume it�s because of the housing crisis. Because if these cunning kids are anything like my friends and I, it�ll actually be because they were too lazy to find a flat and they just fancy some free lodging and veggies. I hope my mum isn't reading this.

# ? May 1, 2014 16:02

Rude Dude With Tude: Apr 19, 2007; Your President approves this text.

At least you can trust the hotbed of multiculturalism that is London to keep the crazies out http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/ukip-local-elections-candidates-racist-language-is-exposed-9310580.html

Evening Standard posted:

UKIP was engulfed in a new racism row today after the Evening Standard unearthed evidence of its London election candidates using offensive language.

James Silverfox, an official Ukip candidate in Barking & Dagenham, made the comment �How did I know he is Nigerian?� on a news story about a fraudster plundering the bank account of a murdered British engineer. Challenged by the Standard, he denied the remark was racist.

Gary Port, standing for Ukip in Greenwich, admitted his Facebook page shows a �like� for a group devoted to the far-Right British National Party. Approached by the Standard, the removal man said: �I don�t think it�s that clear whether the BNP are racist...�

Matt Pavey, standing for Ukip in Lewisham, suggested that the case of murdered black teenager Stephen Lawrence had received disproportionate amounts of media attention compared with two killings of local white women. He told the Standard he had not intended to cause offence and denied being racist.

Heino Vockrodt, standing in Brent for Ukip, described members of Right-wing protest group the English Defence League � which has been criticised for attracting hooligans to demonstrations staged in mixed-race areas � as �honest normal people� .

An investigation by the Standard found a tweet in the name of another Ukip candidate who implied that �multiracial� schools had inferior results. The new row for Nigel Farage�s anti-Europe party comes days after Enfield candidate William Henwood resigned over tweets that said comedian Lenny Henry should emigrate to a �black country� and compared Islam to the Third Reich.

Trevor Phillips, the former chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, commented: �I am shocked that Ukip is prepared to have people with these views as their candidates.

�Anybody who wants to stand for office in London must know that comments like these are not acceptable in a cosmopolitan city.�

After being passed details of comments apparently made by seven Ukip candidates in London, a Ukip spokesman said each would be examined for possible disciplinary action: �Ukip is a non-racist, non-sectarian party and all candidates and members are expected to uphold these values. Where evidence is produced to indicate a breach it will be considered at the earliest opportunity by the National Executive Committee.�

But Mr Farage�s election campaign continues to be dogged by controversial or offensive views held by senior party figures and council candidates.

A major Ukip donor has claimed that rape cannot exist within a marriage. Demetri Marchessini said: �If you make love on Friday and make love Sunday, you can�t say Saturday is rape.�

A senior Ukip MEP was exposed today for once claiming homosexuality was �abnormal and undesirable�. Roger Helmer, 70, made the claims in 2000 while a Conservative. In a statement on his website, Mr Helmer said he was �deeply shocked� by today�s story, and insisted it was �morally acceptable to prefer heterosexuality over homosexuality, or vice versa�.

The candidates and their views
James Silverfox
Candidate for Gascoigne ward, Barking & Dagenham
The former soldier, 66, made the comment �How did I know he is Nigerian?� on a link to a news story about fraudsters who plundered the bank account of a murdered Briton. But he told the Standard he was unrepentant about branding Nigerians as fraudsters. He said: �I was the victim of an online banking fraud and lost hundreds of pounds. I was told that the fraud was carried out by a Nigerian gang operating out of a house in Streatham.

�They [Nigerians] are well known for this type of crime and I am speaking out as a victim. I have not met any [Nigerians] that I know of but I would be wary of doing business with them after what I have been through.� But he flatly denied he was a racist, saying: �My wife is Asian and my daughter�s partner is from the West Indies and we get on well. How can I be a racist? I have two grandchildren who are black and two who are white � You won�t find any Nazi symbols in my flat!�

Matt Pavey
Candidate for Whitefoot ward, Lewisham
On his Twitter account, @WhitefootUKIP, he spoke out about allegations of police corruption in the case of murdered black London teenager Stephen Lawrence. He recalled two unsolved murders of white women and tweeted: �Does anyone remember the name Jean Bradley murder unsolved in Acton, London in 1993. Anyone looking for corruption here? No thought not.� Challenged by the Standard he said: �I did not mean to be offensive or malicious � I just wanted to highlight that some cases get overlooked. The way it was interpreted caused offence. I have nothing against the Lawrence family and am not a racist.�

Gary Port
Candidate for Charlton ward, Greenwich
On Facebook, he lists a page about the BNP as �liked�. He also �liked� a page for a group called the �South East Alliance� which contains anti-Islam material, such as an image claiming that 96 per cent of rapes in the UK are committed by Muslims.

Mr Port, a 35-year-old removal man, said of the BNP page: �I �liked� it, not to join in, but to see what other groups and parties were doing.

�It�s like a news feed, so I just �liked� it to get information on my own page because it brings up what issues other people are dealing with, it wasn�t to say I like it. It was a few years ago now, before I joined Ukip.�

Asked if he considered the BNP to be a racist party, he said: �What do you class as racist nowadays? At what point is something racist in this day and age with all the cultures? Obviously some parties are pushing that issue more than others.�

He added: �I don�t think it�s that clear whether the BNP are racist, from what I understand there was a big hype about it many years ago but I�m not sure what they�ve done about it.� But he added: �If I was racist I wouldn�t be doing the job I�m doing now. I do removals for council tenants and you could probably say the majority of them are ethnic. If I had a big problem with it, I wouldn�t be in that job.�

He said he wouldn�t �outright condemn� the �96.3 per cent of rapes in the UK are by Muslims� claim in a South East Alliance post because he would have to �look into the national figures�, but added: �I think personally that�s going to be far too high.�

He said both the Alliance and EDL are disaffected working-class groups, adding: �Like all groups you get some good and some non-good people.�

Heino Vockrodt
Candidate for Dudden Hill ward, Brent
He described members of the English Defence League, whose protests have triggered violent clashes, as �honest normal people�.

He stood by his views on the EDL when approached by the Standard. The commercial consultant, 52, who moved to the UK from Germany 18 years ago and is married to an Asian woman, said: �It appears to me that they [the EDL] are normal, hardworking people like builders.

�I do not agree with their policies but they do sometimes get unfair treatment. If anti-fascists go to their rallies and there is trouble they are always blamed. They get an unfair press sometimes I think. I have an Asian wife and am in no way racist. Ukip is not a racist party.�

# ? May 1, 2014 16:03

Trickjaw: Jun 23, 2005; Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene

Ddraig posted:

Well don't I feel like a prat. Oh well, my anger is still justified if wrongly directed.

Apparantly someone forced superglue into the main staff entrance for the jobcentre, then shattered the cylinders, so rather than going in through the pleb entrance, they've decided to close up shop and send everyone to a different place. Appointment times are still the same, apparantly, so if you don't find out the jobcentre is shut and you go to that one expecting to be seen, you're going to get sanctioned, son!

Yes, that is a load of poo poo, document everything (in case someone else gets sanctioned, and needs it) and also so you get your travel expenses back. Its also probably been done by someone who has suffered at their hands, not much consolation, but people do lose perspective when they are really bloody angry, and getting no where.

# ? May 1, 2014 16:04

WastedJoker: Oct 29, 2011; Fiery the angels fell. Deep thunder rolled around their shoulders... burning with the fires of Orc.

Farage got egged today. It was wonderful to see.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27242557

It's actually a bit worrying to see how easily someone could stab him in the neck a few times.

Speaking of UKIP, the guy at the top of my street has a big sign declaring his support for UKIP

He seemed like a decent bloke and I used to buy goose eggs from him.

# ? May 1, 2014 16:05

Trickjaw: Jun 23, 2005; Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene

WastedJoker posted:

Farage got egged today. It was wonderful to see.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27242557

It's actually a bit worrying to see how easily someone could stab him in the neck a few times.

Speaking of UKIP, the guy at the top of my street has a big sign declaring his support for UKIP He seemed like a decent bloke and I used to buy goose eggs from him.

Yeah I saw that. I didn't really want to give it any legitimacy, as its puerile and not going to change anything, apart from Kippers thinking they are now in the club of politicians who have been assaulted by food. This is why mailing them jiffy bags full of nonsense is a bit more dignified. As for MA's post from the Standard, its great to give these terrible people enough rope to hang themselves, as they inevitably do. Mind you, not sure how much difference that will make in Barking and Dagenham.

Also, even though they are not officially UKIP anymore, Christine Hamilton is on This Week tonight, and she never fails to perform atrociously on demand.

# ? May 1, 2014 16:15

Phoon: Apr 23, 2010

WastedJoker posted:

Farage got egged today. It was wonderful to see.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27242557

It's actually a bit worrying to see how easily someone could stab him in the neck a few times.

Speaking of UKIP, the guy at the top of my street has a big sign declaring his support for UKIP He seemed like a decent bloke and I used to buy goose eggs from him.

Goose egg Farage

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SybilVimes: Oct 29, 2011

I wonder how many candidates will remain as official UKIP candidates next week, I'm guessing they can't just substitute in other candidates this late in the game either.

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