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Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
The Tories need to do their sums: there's far more voting renters than there are voting landlords.

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Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
I think this is another example of Conservatives being horribly out of touch with ordinary people. If you're a BTL landlord yourself, like most of your friends and you don't actually know anybody who rents and you've got the income and assets to give your own kids a head start on the housing ladder, then, naturally, the system as it stands will look reasonable enough to you and calls to change it will seem bizarre and threatening.

(note, according to the nearest figures I can lay my hands on, there are about 1.9m private landlords in the uk, but over 9m renters.)

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Manic_Misanthrope posted:

So how complicated are we talking about to make it impossible to prosecute?

What are you planning



Also, Ed Milliband's on the right track with these rental reforms, judging by the squeals coming from the relevant vested interests:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/2014/may/01/nick-clegg-hosts-his-call-clegg-phone-in-politics-live-blog

quote:

Capping rents could potentially lead to landlords simply withdrawing from the market if they don't get the price they need to make their investment economically sound.

Those poor landlords :cry:

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
The rentier class and their tame journalists are still squealing in horror over Ed Milliband's modest rental reform proposals. (treating tenants decently?! Impossible! Unworkable! Socialism!)

Of course, they're not really worried that it won't work but that it WILL work! You can always tell when Labour have hit on a good policy by observing how the vested interests react to it.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
The Guardian's online website keeps going haywire and matching the wrong photos to it's front page headlines. I particularly like this one:

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Phoon posted:

Somehow I doubt good grammar will help me get laid

I think a journalist as distinguished as Hadley Freeman knows what she's talking about :colbert:

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Saki posted:

The Guardian's Comment is Free section is hilarious. Just an endless succession of clickbaity, badly researched articles shrieking about something or other with a bunch of comments ranging from "Right on!" to "You're retarded".

"Neanderthals aren't grunting, club-wielding idiots – we are."

"Not all waiters become dictators. Or Sandra Bullock."

"This cash for grouse scandal shows how Britain has become a plutocrats' paradise."

3 real, totally not made up comment pieces on the Guardian's CiF page right now this minute.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
The worst thing, I thought, was how the police searching his home found a letter from one of his victims, detailing the distress that his actions had caused her... In his bedside table, next to a box of kleenex.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Gonzo McFee posted:

So what does anyone know about getting out of leases?

Moved into a new flat on Tuesday to find out that all the repairs that the letting agency said would be done had not been done, that there were a whole host of other problems with the place such as leaking pipes and the security phone not working, that I couldn't get a mobile phone signal anywhere in the flat and that the place hadn't been cleaned at all (Bathtub full of dirt, toilet covered with piss, dead insects everywhere and toenails of the old tenants under the bed etc).

They told me that there would be a two week cooling off period from when I paid the deposit so if I changed my mind I could get out but after looking online I see that there is no way to legally enforce it and after looking through the paperwork I see they haven't bothered to write it down.

I'm pretty hosed, ain't I?

Raise it with the lettng agency first. (put everything in writing and keep notes for yourself, because all lettings agencies are staffed by incompetent, lying bastards.)

If they don't fix things, raise it with the landlord directly. (again, put everything in writing and keep notes for yourself, because all landlords are incompetent, lying bastards.)

If he doesn't fix things, then here is the proceedure for carrying out the repairs yourself and deducting the costs from your rent:

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/wales...f_disrepair.htm

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Spangly A posted:

"A British court somehow found someone not guilty of Libel for once, but now that they're not in a position to respond because of extraneous legal matters I will make defamatory remarks and insinuate their guilt out of spite"

We all already knew he needed a good solid brick to the face but what a loving wanker.

He needs to forgive and move on and try to look on the bright side of things. He may have lost his career as a cabinet minister but that just opened up the prospect of a new job, as an extremely mediocre newspaper columnist.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
What's he supposed to have posted? I wasn't sure whether it was something along the lines of "ha ha she got what she deserved" or if he was posting the kid's name online.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

I read that headline and immediately knew it was a Telegraph article. That paper particularly specializes in tear-jerking articles about how beaten down and misunderstood very rich people actually are.

On the subject of the Spectator: it's a reactionary magazine specifically aimed at well-off, elderly, upper-middle and upper class people; the articles it prints naturally follow on from that. They DO print more thoughtful pieces too, for example this:

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/05/why-does-the-tory-party-have-a-problem-with-ethnic-minority-voters-because-it-deserves-to/

And this:

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/05/labour-market-flexibility-and-dignity/

(note: read the comments accompanying these articles to be suitably reassured that the Conservatives are going to lose the next election.)

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Deptfordx posted:

I also stumbled across this today, about Thomas Pikettys Capital in the 21st Century.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jeremywarner/100027209/cant-be-bothered-to-read-piketty-heres-a-cheats-guide/

Article admits no one (and you can believe they've looked) can find flaws in his methodology or data but still

Quote:

"So do we just have to accept that Piketty is right?" -

" - Not at all. He is completely wrong".

So why do the collected intellectual titans of the Telegraph conclude this in defiance of what they themselves were forced to admit is the evidence?

Because poor people today have fridges and televisions unlike they're 19th century equivalent, so obviously vast inequalites just don't matter. Also the dirty Frog is allegedly a wife beater.

Hurrah! And Capitalism was saved! Bonuses for everyone, by which we only mean bonuses for bankers, zero-hour contracts for everyone else.

Someone post that Lucky Ducky cartoon.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Bozza posted:

I'm trying to find a way to respond to this without sounding like I'm humblebragging, so here goes: I make a total of money approximately 1/3 of this guy's income and that is quite a lot by most people's standards, and basically do what the gently caress I want. This is the first month I've been skint in ages cos I'm paying two sets of rent after getting turfed out by my (ex)girlfriend + getting a fisting in lettings fees.

I do have cheap tastes though, never really grew out of Carling and £3 lasagna that will last me two nights.

I have no idea how you can be struggling if you're pulling in what, £10k a month before tax. I've got no kids like, but the little theoretical bastards will be going to state school like Daddy, not posho schools, even if they did exist.

Buy a house in London with an enormous mortgage, send your crotch-spawn to boarding schools, run a couple of gas guzzlers and buy everything using your credit cards (and make sure to always maintain a nice, eye-watering outstanding balance). Then you too can exclaim with the best of them: "Oh, but we're not rich! Why, by the time we've paid the mortgage, the school fees and the urgent bills, there's nothing left at the end of the month!"

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Funny, thing is, if you look at the articles in the Spectator and Telegraph that we've just been talking about, it's pretty clear that the ad pretty accurately reflects how Conservatives actually think.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Kegluneq posted:

oh god what have i done

The Mail definitely utilises clickbait wherever possible to goad as many people to respond as possible. To be fair the Guardian does something very similar with CiF headlines.

3 links on the Guardian CiF page right now this minute:

Is misogyny worse now than before the internet? We asked five feminists whether sexism has become more prevalent in the digital age, or simply more visible


Yes I was guilty, but I was prosecuted on the basis of Constance Briscoe's deception
The legal system reached the right conclusion, but for the wrong reasons – the process was flawed

Would you wear socks with sandals? As summer sales of socks rocket, celebrities are choosing to pair them with sandals – and Guardian fashion editor Jess Cartner-Morley advocates the look. But will you be wearing socks with sandals this summer?


"Comment is free but facts are sacred" - C.P. Scott

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Spangly A posted:

madre de dio

I think you'd need a referral link, properly vandalising it for goatse would be hard with all the text

Naah, just a home printer and some glue!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiled_printing

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Seaside Loafer posted:

I worked on a military PFI a few years back and 1 of the senior developers and one of the managers (who was also an experienced dev) had to spend pretty much all their time working on the details of the contract instead of doing any actual work. It did get done, just, but I cant help but think if it was just done in public hands there were would have been more people doing actual work and it would have been more efficient.

Working on a bid for a government contract right now and Jesus, is this true. It becomes less surprising that Serco, G4S and Crapita hoover up so many contracts when you see the sheer volume and complexity of what you have to go through in the course of a bid: it requires whole department's worth of experienced people just to negotiate through the hoops.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

IceAgeComing posted:

The General election polls have UKIP still in the low teens: but I could see that changing if they had the "we won the election; we're relevant!" card...

Its not like UKIP are going to be relevant in the next parliament: they've got a chance to get a few Tory seats I imagine but they won't win a great deal. The biggest fear that the Tories have is that UKIP being at 15% pretty much eliminates any chance they have to get a majority government: which would still be on the cards if UKIP were still a joke party - I know Labour are still leading, but usually the polls move towards the government as the election approaches, so its still not certain yet.

Yeah:

Ukip at 5% - small problem for the Tories.
Ukip at 10% - big problem for the Tories.
Ukip at 15% - catastrophe for the Tories.

Basically, there's about 50 key marginals that the Tories would have to win in order to get a majority at the next election; if you're looking for a swing of a few thousand votes, then a Ukip turnout of 10% plus makes all the difference between success and failure.


Trickjaw posted:

Hang on. Why is Labour on a higher % but with a lower bar on the graph? Are they trying to hoodwink people who do not know about numbers?

I'd say it was a typo, but local government activists really can be that shameless.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Also, I always love that tactic of one party saying that there's no point voting for their rivals, because they can never 'win' here. Well no, unless they happen to get a majority of the votes cast, of course.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

IceAgeComing posted:

Radio 4 is IMO one of the best parts of the BBC, even though it only seems to be listened to by older middle class people. I don't listen to it 24/7 (usually have Today on in the background in the morning and sometimes catch the news before other stuff is on), but from what I gather it seems like it challenges bullshit a lot more than the TV news does. Again; that's based on half-listening to only a little bit of its output, I could be completely wrong!


The news broadcasts tend to be good to very good: you don't get any of the breakfast tv vacuity that you sometimes see on the tv news. The rest of it is very definitely aimed at older middle-class people (and well-educated, liberal ones, at that), so it depends whether that's your thing or not.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Too many landlords don't seem to understand that houses aren't footballs and you can't take them home with you when you stomp off in a huff.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Extradition of criminals is utterly unacceptable when the criminals happen to be upper-middle class English people:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10832695/Paramedics-called-to-home-of-extradition-couple-who-made-suicide-pact.html

The Telegraph's reported on this case a few times now. It always gives the couple's side of the story uncritically, completely fails to investigate the case against them and does it's best to overlook the fact that they've already had a judgment against them in a civil court in the USA.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Jakabite posted:

Who's that floppy haired prick on the right? He looks like I'd hate him.

Looks like the Telegraph columnist, Tim Stanley:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/author/timstanley/

He's mentioning a pic on his Twitter feed, so probably is him. He's a Tory, but a thoughtful, rather melancholy one, so perhaps not completely hateful.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
They're discussing the Thailand coup on BBC breakfast tv. The main concern of the presenters is how badly the 10pm curfew will spoil British tourist's nights out and whether they'll be able to claim any compensation from their holiday firms.

Never change, breakfast tv, never change!

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

hookerbot 5000 posted:

A good day to bury bad (or at east embarassing) news; looks like there's a 'fundamental reorganisation' of universal credit being announced.

Yeah, I saw this too:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/23/universal-credit-reset-iain-duncan-smith


Completely typical of the slimy coward to try and sneak the news out on election results day.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

big scary monsters posted:

Is there any chance that the Tories and Labour will let up a bit on their anti-immigration spiel now? I know that UKIP's rise seems like it would make them redouble their efforts, but nobody would take UKIP the slightest bit seriously if mainstream parties hadn't been blaming all the country's ills on foreigners and the EU for the last few years.

Well, I've just seen Ed Balls on the news, banging on about immigration levels and benefits being funnelled out of the country etc etc etc, so probably not.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Yeah, I don't get that either.

*Labour wins by far the highest number of seats*

*Media describe this as an "awful" result for Labour*

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Gort posted:

I'm thinking we're going to see lots of tories go as well. Having a bunch of your voters split off to vote UKIP is going to be pretty drat fatal in a first-past-the-post system., and the better UKIP does, the worse the tories are going to do.

Not necessarily! Truth is, nobody really knows what the combination of a four-party system (Or five-party, if you count the Greens) and a first past the post electoral system will do to the results in 2015. The conventional wisdom was that the rise of Ukip would mainly hurt the Conservatives, by splitting the right-wing vote but the recent elections have shown that they can be equally threatening to Labour and Lib Dem-held areas. What this will mean in terms of overall majorities come 2015 is anyone's guess, although that's not stopping the media pundits from confidently holding forth on how they think it's going to all pan out.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Alecto posted:

It comes down to the fact that Northern and Midlands Lib Dem voters are extremely unhappy with the coalition, whereas the Southern ones are much more OK with it, so Labour can sweep the North even with UKIP harrying them, while the Conservatives still have to fight for the South while tied to a UKIP anchor.

Well, this is what I'm hoping tbh, although there's so many ifs and buts involved now that I'm a good deal less confident than I was a couple of years ago.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
On the upside, a nation of renters will mean that the Tories will never be voted in again, ever. Why the gently caress would somebody in an insecure job, in an insecure tenancy, with no chance of anything better, ever vote Conservative?



(they might vote Ukip, I suppose)

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Zephro posted:

That's fine if you have one child, but it works less and less well the more kids you have. If you have two children then you have to split your house three ways, effectively (cos you need somewhere to live too, remember). Some people I know in their early 50s, who have (on paper) done very well out of rising prices in London and the South East, are just now beginning to realise what a massive problem this is now that their own kids are entering the workforce and finding that they're paying £800 a month to rent a windowless closet twenty minutes from a Tube stop somewhere in Zone 5.

Articles on this very subject are now regularly appearing in the Telegraph, where posh journalists have switched from gloating over their house price gains to indignantly complaining that neither they nor their children can afford to live in London any more. Here's a good example:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/harrymount/100075127/house-prices-will-destroy-the-british-class-system/

(Note also the usual rather amusing Telegraph ideas about what "middle-class" actually means...)

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Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
80's Judge Dredd is about as good as it loving gets. Brillantly drawn, hilarious black comedy in every issue. Thatcher was obviously good for something!

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