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Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Umiapik posted:

Those poor landlords :cry:

I always love hilarious alarmist bullshit like that.

They're just going to leave all that money sitting there? Doing nothing? So... demand will drop, causing price to drop, until house prices are low enough again to make rent-capped rates profitable?

Get on my level tories :smuggo:

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Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Answers Me posted:

It cracks me up how all of a sudden UKIP keep trotting out the line 'we're not racist; in fact, we're the only party who make people specifically declare that they've never been a member of the BNP or EDL.'

Not racist, just so popular with racists we have to specifically filter them out.

Specifically filter them and yet fail to at the same time.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Trickjaw posted:

Aahhh thats what Loonytoad has been on about. Why are they advertising on TV beechwood smoked bacon subs then? The respectable face of UKIP the community spokes woman on QT now, guessing they didn't dare let anyone else off the leash.

200 subway franchises is not a lot compared to the total number of subway franchises in the UK. They're doing it anywhere there's a significant Islamic community in order to put Halal signs up. In Islamic communities, the number of racist fucks who will moan is outweighed by the number of muslims who will avoid Haram food places out of fear of contamination.

For most of them, there will be no difference. My local delivering Subway appears unaffected.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Yeah a protip for anyone: there isn't Halal food in the UK. drat near zero. You find me a slaughterhouse that correctly positions animals after watching over them to ensure a dignified death and then prays with the corpse, and I'll show you a free market inefficiency.

Halal restaurants serve no Haram meat and if you're lucky you might get it from someone who does the butchering by hand. You are not getting fully Halal meat because it takes bloody ages and you can't really do more than one animal at a time. Also, have you tried cutting a cows neck deep enough to fully sever the windpipe?

I mean, I haven't, but I doubt it's easy. No windpipe in the first cut, the animal has unduly suffered, it's Haram.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Ddraig posted:

I wonder if cutting your own cock off is a valid way of reducing sentencing, as you would be incapable of raping someone anymore.


This has been an actual part of the British judicial system as recently as whenever the hell we castrated Turing.

Max Clifford has a lot of very rich people in his contact book, and a lot of information on them. He's also in prison.

His stay will be luxurious and end violently.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Ddraig posted:

Yeah I just remembered that chemical castration is an actual legal thing. God, the world really is a loving terrible place.

I think I might go read Candide again to cheer myself up.

I like candide, you've just won yourself an internet book friend.

Chemical castration is a good idea on the principle of looking at criminal risk and then allowing people to live their lives. It's a bad idea in that it's the most ridiculous application of that principle since cutting off thieves hands.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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HortonNash posted:

Sorry I was just having trouble thinking of something worth risking receiving Chinese counterfeit medicine over, when an NHS prescription is ~£8 (or free if you have an exemption) and the only thing I can think of are the controlled drugs. Happy to be wrong thoug.

Getting hold of hormone therapy is a loving nightmare because of the waiting list.

I will eternally scream at any of my friends who are dumb enough to buy it online because don't gently caress with drugs you can't control but it's a huge market and legal.

Cerv posted:

booze & fags are cheaper in france, but 'duty free' it ain't

The pros get it from Belgium.

I should probably not use the word "professional" there, even in short hand, but that's where you get the cheap stuff these days if you know what you're doing.

DesperateDan posted:

They would have to actually start searching packages for it to make a difference- it's anecdotal, but over the last ten years or so I have ordered hundreds of things from abroad

[ask] me about the royal mail's ability to search packages.

Hint: they can't. They absolutely loving can't do it, they never will be able to do it, and the odds of them catching you on a random search are slim. They will make an example if they catch you though, so if you suspect tampering you should change postal name and address immediately because if they have an excuse to search your mail and then build a case you are hosed.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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StarkingBarfish posted:

Holy poo poo, that turd Huhne really doesn't understand PR, does he?

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/04/i-was-guilty-constance-briscoe-decption

That has to be the poorest and most spiteful attempt at a hit piece I've ever read. He shows no contrition whatsoever.

"A British court somehow found someone not guilty of Libel for once, but now that they're not in a position to respond because of extraneous legal matters I will make defamatory remarks and insinuate their guilt out of spite"

We all already knew he needed a good solid brick to the face but what a loving wanker.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Lord Twisted posted:

Privatising the land registry. Aka one of the few government agencies to make a consistent profit.

LOL.

LOOOOOOOOOL.

Well it's a nice change from selling the unprofitable parts to yourself for the purpose of stripping and flipping. This way the private companies might keep it intact for five minutes and take some profit home before the firesale!

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Zephro posted:

That article does suggest the whole thing was a clusterfuck of rarely-seen proportions, though. Is it even legal for a judge to preside over a case when she's friends with the participants?

I have no idea but it absolutely shouldn't be.

Yeah, it was a clusterfuck. He's mad that the jury had to be sent home because they were loving idiots and he was desperately banking on them getting him off through sheer incompetence, though. That was his only hope. As it was the judge simply said "gently caress this, none of you are fit to ever do jury service, gently caress off" and decided against trial by jury.

He's now trying to make this out to be a big deal but statistically speaking, jury trials are primarily used by guilty people hoping that a lack of legal knowledge will help their case. They're a waste of time. The talk of conspiracy is bollocks, there's no evidence that it was a malicious WOMANPLOT against him.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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There are a lot of places better than the UK fairly close by, the only thing the UK has that puts it above others is the NHS and we're doing our best to wreck that.

I'm here solely for free medical care. Absolutely no other reason. Should this cease to be an option I'd be in Germany the day the changes hit.

The UK is a fantastic place relative to world history and a large majority of the global population. But that's a stupid argument since we're EU citizens and our options include France, Germany and Sweden to name a few.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Seaside Loafer posted:

The scandanvion counttrys are supposed to be pretty great arent they, lots of co-ops etc?

Sweden was lefty mecca but the downturn has been pulling all the scando countries to the right quite hard.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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HortonNash posted:

They have a pretty murky history of sterilising people though don't they.

Scandanavian countries conform to the old left-right alignment better than pretty much anywhere else. There was a ridiculously strong social floor, fair pay, fantastic entitlements, and in general a strong belief that the government's job is to provide, from a legal perspective. The flip side of this for the old left was; we provide, yet morally arbitrate.

Frankly I can deal with countries with a murky human rights record when their adopted children do better academically and personally than our mainstream educated children, in terms of qualifications and mental health. We're not exactly going to point fingers.

It's kinda irrelevant as the King announced the end of the welfare state a while ago. Every fucker is a liberal given the chance. Death to humanity.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Thrasophius posted:

Exactly. It's a shame the NHS is being told to save money and cut back etc. Sure the NHS isn't perfect, it has flaws and needs a little tweeking but saying do exactly what you're doing now and more but with less money is idiotic. The cracks are showing and there's only going to be more strain as the population ages.

There really weren't many healthcare providers in the entire world better than the NHS and I can think of precisely none that were free bar prescription. It was also 4th-6th most efficient fairly consistently.

And then we hired a guy to lend "international expertise" who previously worked in the country that ranked below Serbia and one place above Iran in the WHO tables.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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ThomasPaine posted:

What this guy says.

Also, I don't know anything about it myself but I was talking to someone the other day who insisted that France's healthcare system was even better the the NHS. True/false?

French healthcare is the best in the world bar none, and they spend less total than the American government spent on its privatised healthcare system pre-ACA.

It's less efficient than the NHS was though, they spend enormous sums on it. By far above pretty much everyone else in the EU; their system was basically what Labour wanted. Lots of beurocrats doing their jobs, lots of medical redundancy. When you get to that level of healthcare you start running into diminishing returns quickly because you haven't got much to do that isn't just spreading the workload to multiple jobs to keep individual efficiency up.

It's a fantastic system but it necessitates a high tax rate, it's over 10% of all of France's GDP last I checked.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Zephro posted:

The NHS is one of the most efficient healthcare systems in the world, so pretty much everywhere else with comparable standards of healthcare will spend more money on it than we do.

The French spend more than anyone, though. Their system is about getting the absolute best care possible as opposed to ours, which is high-functioning high-efficiency. Was, anyway.

e; I think it's the second most expensive in the world behind (obviously) America.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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£160m is loving piss in the ocean to any UHC system, what an awful excuse for an awful idea. If it wasn't being garroted it wouldn't notice.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Trickjaw posted:

Maybe I'm missing something, but won't this just mean people go to A&E instead?

No they already started closing most of those.

They closed those because a lot were underfunded and badly run. K&C killed a fair few people they shouldn't have and my experiences with them weren't exactly to their favour.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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tentish klown posted:

Yeah so gently caress the Spectator and James Delingpole



James Delingpole doesn't know the usage nor context of words he writes. Film at 11.

Barry Foster posted:

Also, looks like the Skull Cracker's robbed a Chelsea Building Society down my road. Exciting stuff. Lotta cop choppers about.

I am pretty pissy about the whole thing because the tories have already started to jump on the "throw away the key" bandwagon and it seems to be going well for them.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Seaside Loafer posted:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-27305266

Question, if you were nearly 60 and faced with rest of life in nick, wouldnt you leg it if given the chance?

He was being primed for release, that was why he was in an open prison and allowed day-release in the first place.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Jakabite posted:

I suppose what I'm asking is, does anyone know what kind of percentage of the tax that benefit would cover for an unemployed/apprenticed 19 year old? And how much it would be for a five bedroom terraced house in a student area of Manchester? Any help would be appreciated. He's had a poo poo year and moving away was meant to try and buck that trend, and I'm going to be pissed if council tax stops that.

Firstly, the house is responsible for the CT by law, not the tenants. As such, your landlord might charge it between you (this is the situation I've been in for two years, altering between 1-2 non-exempt tenants, our bills have changed as the discount does.)

Secondly, council tax benefit no longer exists, since the government decided individual benefit for something charged by property didn't make sense. What you will need to do as a house is apply for the new council tax reduction. As 4 students and one low-income, it's very likely you won't be paying any council tax whatsoever. Here is the information and application form, your best bet is to go see the CAB with your mate and explain the situation between you, and they'll have someone show you how to write the magic set of words that don't give any busybodies an opportunity to fudge your exemption rate in their favour.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Jakabite posted:

Alright thanks fellas, that's really helpful. Is there any chance the landlord will turn around and just say he can't live with us? We've only just notified them, since it was only initially going to be the 4 students.

Maybe, they're much more likely to just increase your rent though. Figure out what it is if you don't trust them not to add any skim for themselves. Also show them that link, good odds they don't know about the reduction changes themselves, they're fairly new.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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tentish klown posted:

Well, he's a compliance officer which means he's versed in the law (although not necessarily a qualified lawyer), has probably worked in the FSA/FCA and knows what financial companies are and aren't allowed to do. His job is to prevent the people who actually 'flip money' from breaking the rules, taking on too much risk, etc.

Anyone involved in finance talking about the economy is a loving charlatan, though. They're unrelated fields that have exactly one commonality; they involve money. It's literally like arguing you "get" astrophysics because you do horoscopes for a living.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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namesake posted:

I'd say it's more like asking a domestic plumber about a national water provision, purification and sewage system. They'll have some knowledge about the properties of water and what they hope to see come out of the pipes into a house but won't have any better idea of the system as a whole than anyone would.

To be more specific it's more a problem that accountants don't actually have any knowledge of money. They use money but don't understand it, what they understand is a set of complex legal fuckery. They're closer to lawyers than scientists (I was training as one before I had a complete breakdown out of self-loathing). But I was the only one on my course who kept taking economics, every English student there was Daddy's Little Arsehole and didn't like the angry Scottish socialist man making them feel bad about their FYGM beliefs. And the rest of the lads were from Africa or China and just wanted a good job so they could look after their families :shrug:

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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General China posted:

If you have ever been to a university you cannot apply ( Only one poster I know of gets through this and he is too cool to apply anyway )

If you intend to apply to university you are disqualified.

I await the absolute overwhelming torrent of applications from the hard calloused working hands of physical labourers who post in this thread.

update your lexicon and embrace the precariat or wallow in the mire of your upcoming mechanised irrelevance.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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General China posted:

Are people who don't have degrees the new lumpenproletariat?

If so, I'm a member of the elite lumpenproletariat.

A sarcastic questioned asked by a man who hasn't been unemployed for a long time. The answer is an unironic "yes, that is how you are treated."

My dearest bootstrapping middle-class father was told to either go to college and get a more relevant degree inbetween interviews at mcdonalds because they didn't think his city&guilds fellowship was useful enough. Since then he has finally understood that his own union-member father was right.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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I want to know why people who write things like that genuinely cannot understand cost of living.

e; I'm going to go watch the Higgins minimum wage speech again. The part where he points out that Irelands minimum wage is only highest in raw numbers but then drops off a cliff thanks to high cost of living has the best reaction shots :allears:

Spangly A fucked around with this message at 22:21 on May 8, 2014

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Saki posted:

Please tell me more about how Farage is totally Hitler, man.

is there any point pointing out to you that fascists aren't nazis and UKIP definitely are taking fascist positions, or are you going to keep arguing from absurdity to hide the fact you're a clueless wanker?

Also if you aren't defacing UKIP billboards then you're all terrible lefties and should be ashamed. gently caress all advertisement on the principle of "rich people deserve to gently caress with your brain" but gently caress it even more when it's racist.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Ddraig posted:

They're called UKIP. No national socialist anywhere in the name, ergo they are not Nazis :v:

By this argument Nazis aren't Nazis. They never did use Prora!

Elfface posted:

I tried, but it was resistant to a key-ing. Someone else had added a small, unobtrusive eye-level sticker to it, on which was written 'lol no'.

A week later it had been painted blue, but not by someone who got an article in the Guardian. Maybe someone wrote a swear on it and the council had to fix it up.

Good lad. The only one round here is the closest billboard to the police station in town, and right close to cameras for the train station. Creativity will be needed.

The ones near my anti-fa friends in Margate did not have that protection :v:

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Don't know why they wrote the bit about London Underground like that. If 31% of the workforce voted in favour and it requires a majority, then by definition at least 61% had to vote. I don't know the numbers so don't know if it's a typo or deliberately misleading journalism but either way it's poo poo.

Where are you, ghost bob? :(

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Renaissance Robot posted:

The one near where I live has got me stumped for witty comebacks:



It's just so completely wrong :(

Just whitewash the thing, shouldn't take long if you can borrow a painters tools. Go all They Live on the main part.

e;

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Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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madre de dio

I think you'd need a referral link, properly vandalising it for goatse would be hard with all the text

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Umiapik posted:

Naah, just a home printer and some glue!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiled_printing

Hrm.

"Who really knows what Nigel Farage does at home?
25% of Farages orgasms are bum related"

Take back control of your anus.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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I mean yes it's childish and homophobic but I can't really see anything upsetting UKIP voters more than pictures of a man's anus, because they are also childish and homophobic.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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KKKlean Energy posted:

The bit in question:


So, 77% of the 40% who voted (=30.8%) were in favour.

I'm really very glad I never took up stats as a job

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Mr Cuddles posted:

This is the latest thing to get the racists on facebook riled up



do people not understand that they can get these too?

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Malcolm XML posted:

Islamic finance forbids usury but will allow something that for all intents and purposes except religious works like interest

There are Islamic hedge funds and they pay what amounts to returns but somehow aren't

It's the financial equivalent of a Shabbos goy where you skirt around the letter of the law

Eg Islamic savings account won't pay interest but the will give you a "gift" every now and then that mysteriously approaches the amount you would have gotten in interest but they are under no obligation to do so, otherwise it would be interest and thus forbidden

You can't not mention their mortgages.

Islamic mortgages involve the bank buying your house and you renting it out until you've paid off an amount that is mysteriously close to what you'd pay for a standard mortgage, but isn't. Then the house is yours!

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Kurtofan posted:

That's exactly what Marine Lepen says everytime her father opens his mouth.

She's hardly going to disagree, is she?

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

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Jedit posted:

Which, given that most British soldiers stationed in Ireland didn't commit any atrocities, they were. So take your straw man and gently caress off.

Haha nope, that one remains the fault of the British government, and always will be.

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Jedit posted:

doesn't mean that someone who is being justly punished should be punished less.

The IRA were not justly punished. Justice requires things like courts.

That's the actual argument. You called out a strawman and then responded with your own strawman.

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