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Apr 24, 2012
Well, Jeremy Clarkson did another racism. Maybe he'll finally get the sack this time? http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/may/01/jeremy-clarkson-not-use-n-word

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Apr 24, 2012

notaspy posted:

If he does he'll become even more insufferable. He'll go full time at The Sun/The Times as their new 'voice of the man on the street' and he'll attack the BBC incessantly 'having seen with my own eyes the waste and bureaucracy' that 'drags the organisation to the left'. He'll get his own show or even channel on sky that will make that Noel Edmonds nonsense seem reasonable.

Nah, his next career move will be UKIP's first MP, I reckon. :negative:

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Apr 24, 2012

FiftySeven posted:

I don't know exactly how much stock I would put into allegations about Jeremy Clarkson coming from the Daily Mirror...

I don't know exactly how much stock I would put into denials of racism about Jeremy Clarkson coming from Jeremy Clarkson, so I guess they cancel each other out?

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Apr 24, 2012
I can't even imagine just how insufferable a 19 year old UKIP supporter is.

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Apr 24, 2012

JoylessJester posted:



But in good news Labours come out with rent controls which are a)something I like because it'd benefit me and b) will be fairly popular. A couple more decent bits of policy and maybe I might hold my nose and vote for them. Maybe.

But they're :supaburn: VENEZUELAN AND SOCIALIST :supaburn: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/30/ed-miliband-labour-rental-market-reforms-property

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Apr 24, 2012
It cracks me up how all of a sudden UKIP keep trotting out the line 'we're not racist; in fact, we're the only party who make people specifically declare that they've never been a member of the BNP or EDL.'

Not racist, just so popular with racists we have to specifically filter them out.

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Apr 24, 2012

Saki posted:

The Guardian's Comment is Free section is hilarious. Just an endless succession of clickbaity, badly researched articles shrieking about something or other with a bunch of comments ranging from "Right on!" to "You're retarded".

I pretty much only look at the Culture/music section and that's gone downhill massively since the rise of clickbait. It's all regurgitated PR briefs, buzzfeed-style 'Top 5 songs about motorways' and pointlessly provocative things like 'why the Beatles are the worst band of all time' or whatever. it's been a while since they had a proper article that was a decent read.

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Apr 24, 2012

Jippa posted:

Big Nige is on bbc1 now.

So who does the PR for UKIP? I assume someone with some pretty serious connections with the BBC. The amount of coverage and cheerleading they get is insane. Imagine if someone like the Greens had that much of a platform, and they actually have an MP!

Ps. Who are these 'UKIPs of the left' that people are mentioning?

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Apr 24, 2012
I see someone's dusted off NewLabour-bot...


http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/97242/business_class.html

quote:

Although he opted for politics, Umunna stresses that it’s time Labour shouted more about the way business can boost social mobility for individuals. “I’m very clear: we want to help people make their first million,” he says. “If you set up a start-up and you increase you turnover to over a million, you will be employing people and delivering tax receipts to the Exchequer and helping Britain pay its way in the world. We should be saying that.”

And it’s not all about the 1980s ‘greed is good’ approach, he suggests. “There’s a misunderstanding about a lot of entrepreneurs and business people. The sole driver in what they do isn’t just money. People who go into business simply to make money don’t necessarily succeed, there’s usually a mission behind it to do something useful for society and if it’s really useful then that’s obviously something you can commercialise.

“And I also think there’s something about the buccaneering spirit of the entrepreneur which is very much in tune with Labour values. Because if you think about it, you’re entering new markets and challenging the establishment. And we kind of like to challenge the establishment in the Labour party. We’ve always been a party that is aspirational and looks to help people achieve their dreams and their aspirations.”

:fuckoff:

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Apr 24, 2012

LemonDrizzle posted:

Labour made a thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1BaQkH_q2s

It's... well, it's a thing. Almost on par with the BNP's thing.

This is so terrible, i wish parties wouldn't so this poo poo. I was thinking voting Green but since I've seen this I might have second thoughts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDsV8YumePk


In other news, I had Tory and Lib Dem leaflets addressed specifically to me the other day. Is my address freely available for political parties to spam?

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Apr 24, 2012

twoot posted:

'I make £120,000 but I can’t recall the last time we went out for dinner’

quote:

I know if I were to have a conversation with someone on a council estate, they would think I was mad,



loving hell, there's so much entrenched class prejudice wrapped up in just that one little statement it's unreal.

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Apr 24, 2012

Gonzo McFee posted:

Saw James Dingleberry talk and you can't let that pass without posting this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wmuhKzYp4s

James Delinglpole: A loving idiot who openly admits he doesn't know a thing about the things he believes. Amazing what a bunch of connections can do for an utter idiot.

This is incredible. Proof that you can have the best education money can be and still be a complete loving idiot.

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Apr 24, 2012

twoot posted:

BNP Youth - Fight Back

:tviv: these videos can get worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oczj6thd4CY

:qq::qq: whites are being oppressed :qq::qq:

It somehow passed me by (or I'd gladly forgotten) that Nick Griffin was an elected MEP until I saw this in the suggested videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE6u9OCPK1Y

How the hell did that happen? :negative:

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Apr 24, 2012

Trickjaw posted:

Well I was wrong. This is showing Paul Golding of Britain First to be a comlete and utter thick wanker, as you might expect.

e: lol, picture of him at the Cenotaph on Rememberance Sunday with underpants on his head. Tosser.

So who else is the 'balanced' BBC going to have on to balance this one out? I'm not sure I've seen anyone to the left of, say Owen Jones, show up on one of these programmes.

Are there any 'far left' parties likely to be labelled as extremists by the average Joe, or are they all too irrelevant to be thought of as such?

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Apr 24, 2012
So how far along the Road to Fascism is the rise of private militias?

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Apr 24, 2012

Pilchenstein posted:

Entertaining isn't a strong enough word.

:drat:

That was my favourite bit. I don't think I've ever cheered at the radio before


I've often wondered why advertising has never reached into sponsoring, say, Train Stations, but I guess now I know the answer.

I wonder how long it'll be until a commuter town gets renamed 'Tesco-upon-Thames'

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Apr 24, 2012
I saw the worst Party Political Broadcast (politically and aesthetically) I've ever seen last night: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJYctoNKbcE

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Apr 24, 2012

Zephro posted:

Remember all that "Farage's career is over" stuff?

Yeah

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/20/labour-tory-poll-ratings-farage-attacks

The punditry are 0-2 in calling the death of his career now and I eagerly await their hat-trick.

Which was the first time?

This is why the 'just give them enough airtime to shoot themselves in the foot' strategy isn't going to work with UKIP, because there's plenty of people who'll agree with their racism once it's 'exposed' :negative:

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Apr 24, 2012

Lavender menace posted:

This is what you get when you spend the last decade pandering to the "genuine concerns" of racist. This is what you get when your campaign team tells you to apoligize to bigots for calling them bigots. This is what you get for every time you promise to cut immigration as it were an ends in itself. This is what you get when you can't even attack UKIP in your campaign literature because you're afraid of alienating their supporters.

gently caress all the "centrist" politicians that have been drip feeding fascist ideology to the population for short term political gain.

Farage is not your enemy he is your shadow.

I want to emptyquote this on every page forever

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Apr 24, 2012

Mr N posted:

So, would anyone here consider voting Lib Dem again, ever?



If I'd been less ignorant about politics at the time I never would have voted for them in the first place. It makes me cringe just thinking about it

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Apr 24, 2012

Jack the Lad posted:

What's up with news outlets saying Ukip instead of UKIP suddenly?

Not defending their honour or anything, just wondering - seen it on BBC and Telegraph.

It's a growing trend generally to not capitalise acronyms that are pronounced phoenetically, or at least not well known ones.

Ie Ukip is far more commonly heard than The United Kingdom Independence Party that its practically a word in its own right. That's the rationale anyway

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Apr 24, 2012

HortonNash posted:

Before : "Ain't no black in the Union Jack!"
Now : "It's not racist to impose limits on immigration"

It's the same song, just remixed.

Stewart Lee posted:

if political correctness has achieved one thing, it's to make the Conservative Party cloak its inherent racism behind more creative language.

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Apr 24, 2012
gently caress's sake:



So I guess instead of using Literature to broaden horizons, teach critical thinking and harbour creativity, kids will now be taught "books by dead white British people are awesome because dead white British people are awesome"

I can't believe Gove has free reign to design a syllabus himself :negative:

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Apr 24, 2012

HortonNash posted:

Nah, it's the usual rah rah British authors Tory poo poo, mixed in with quite a lot of Dunning-Krueger. Everything about Gove's tenure at Education screams Dunning-Krueger, from Free Schools and Academies to the new Primary Curriculum and now the English GCSE syllabus.

Everyone knows what actually needs to be done, we need a single public sector exam board to stop all the shenanigans with grades and cheating, but that's the one thing he won't do, instead he changes the format of exams to disadvantage everyone except those good at sitting exams.

The focus on exams is one of the worst things, some kids are going to be screwed for no good reason. I ended up studying English through to postgrad but if I'd taken mostly exams I doubt I'd even have passed my GCSEs

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Apr 24, 2012
Nigel Farage on the BBC saying it's been a tough couple of weeks because everyone's been against them :psyduck:

Counterpoint: the continued existence of Nick Robinson; about a million other things

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Apr 24, 2012
Does anyone have a full breakdown of results that shows the voting for each local authority? I want to try and take solace in the possibility that my local area didn't vote quite as horribly as the rest of the region :(

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Apr 24, 2012
The BBC were just in the middle of talking to Paddy Ashdown, and they completely interrupted him to cut away to live footage of Farage walking down the street. Not that I care about Ashdown particularly, but why do people put up with that poo poo? :negative:

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Apr 24, 2012

Pork Pie Hat posted:

If anyone was thinking of reading Thomas Piketty's "Capital in the Twenty-First Century" but didn't want to pay £30, WHSmiths are doing it for half price. Might just be for this week though, I'm not sure.

Is it a good read? Is it nothing new if you've read this kind of thing before? I've heard tons about it and might go pick it up

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