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FullLeatherJacket posted:To be honest, I don't see Spurs not sticking with him unless he completely Moyeses it up. They've sacked a lot of managers, but at the same time it's hard to find one that stands out as particularly unreasonable. It's more a case where they've continually appointed poo poo managers, and then been surprised that they don't deliver. Ramos aside they all did exactly as well as you'd expect from a team that spends more than every other team except for the 5 teams that spend hundreds of millions more than them, and they all got sacked for it. Pochettino will last as long as it takes for Levy to realise they aren't getting in the Champions League.
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I'm planning to introduce 'Poch' into my work footy banter. How do I pronounce it 'Posh'? or......'Pock'? I'm leaning towards the latter
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May 28, 2014 07:36
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May 28, 2014 08:22
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It's 'Pocketino' so 'Pock', I guess.
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May 28, 2014 08:39
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Its in the Journal this morning that Sunderland are expecting Southampton to want Poyet as his replacement
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May 28, 2014 08:59
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For someone who's sacked 10 managers in 13 years, Daniel Levy sure avoids a lot of criticism. Especially from the press
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May 28, 2014 10:14
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TwoDogs1Cup posted:For someone who's sacked 10 managers in 13 years, Daniel Levy sure avoids a lot of criticism. Especially from the press He controls it mate.
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May 28, 2014 10:17
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I think the papers are staying quiet about it as it's all pretty entertaining for the rest of us.
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May 28, 2014 10:22
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Thirteenth Step posted:We said this just after we lost a decent manager. But I guess we didn't have the players Southampton have. In 2 months Southampton may not have the players Southampton have either.
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May 28, 2014 11:54
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I forgot to check back here after I posted about Levy a few weeks back, noting the way to figure out whether someone knew sod all about football was if they claimed Levy should be forced out. The responses were pretty good and interesting, a shame I missed them. The only sacking in recent times that is purely on Levy's head (and it very much is) was Jol, who probably should have been built upon. In those days though we never came within a sniff of beating a top 4 team, something Redknapp later showed was possible. Poch will survive at Spurs as long as we're playing well and look like we're on a path to compete for the top 4 the following season, as Rodgers was. Top 6 and not to be battered by the bigger teams is the standard.
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May 28, 2014 12:56
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Much as I hate him, sacking Arry was a really dumb idea. They did it only to punish him for wanting to manage his country.
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St Evan Echoes posted:Much as I hate him, sacking Arry was a really dumb idea. They did it only to punish him for wanting to manage his country. Arry was the worst perpetrator of winning without the right tactics,
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May 28, 2014 13:04
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St Evan Echoes posted:Much as I hate him, sacking Arry was a really dumb idea. They did it only to punish him for wanting to manage his country. well they did tank horribly shortly after it became an option, didn't they?
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Spangly A posted:well they did tank horribly shortly after it became an option, didn't they?
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TwoDogs1Cup posted:For someone who's sacked 10 managers in 13 years, Daniel Levy sure avoids a lot of criticism. Especially from the press This really needs to be corrected. Of those 10, 3 of them were caretaker managers for the rest of the season (Pleat, Allen and Sherwood). That's not a sacking. 7 managers in 13 years is below Prem average. Took over in 2001. Graham - Never finished above 10th. Levy thinks we can get someone better. Otherwise he's just Ashley and Newcastle. Hoddle - Finished 9th, 10th then got 4 points from 6 games. Pretty fair to say he was given a good go but wasn't good enough. Pleat finishes the season. Santini - Resigned, wasn't sacked. Hindsight is 20 20, it appeared to be a good signing. Jol - A bad decision not to support him, thus is a black mark against Levy. Ramos - Again, a good signing on paper, whom he has to fire when we are 2 points from 10 games I believe. Redknapp - Flirted with the England job, which led to the season crashing with a terrible final 10 games to lose CL place. For this, he demanded a new improved contract and would not stay if it wasn't given. No man is bigger than the club. AVB - Again good on paper. Maybe he should have given him the season. But we just had been battered by City and Liverpool while playing the worst football in a decade at Spurs. So 7 real managers gone, 6 sacked, one who talked himself out of it, two who left while we were in or around the relegation zone, and two who left after 10th place averages. For a team that did nothing when Levy started, and who has since won a cup, played in CL, and now not finished lower than 6th in about 7 seasons. I mean he's obviously not perfect but he's better than most.
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May 28, 2014 13:14
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St Evan Echoes posted:Plummeted to the depths of fourth place Would have been 3rd over the Arse if 'Arry hadn't taken his eye off it.
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Fat Turkey posted:Of those 10, 3 of them were caretaker managers for the rest of the season (Pleat, Allen and Sherwood). He was on an 18 month contract, was he not? Yes, he was no more than a glorified caretaker, but he was specifically employed to be the manager.
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Dudley posted:In 2 months Southampton may not have the players Southampton have either. It was a good run while it lasted!!!
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May 28, 2014 13:25
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Fat Turkey posted:Poch will survive at Spurs as long as we're playing well and look like we're on a path to compete for the top 4 the following season, as Rodgers was. Top 6 and not to be battered by the bigger teams is the standard. Sacked within a year then
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HJB posted:He was on an 18 month contract, was he not? Yes, he was no more than a glorified caretaker, but he was specifically employed to be the manager. In a practical sense it was a 6 month contract with an option on another year, given the break clause they used.
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Blinkz0rz posted:Would have been 3rd over the Arse if 'Arry hadn't taken his eye off it. They sacked him as punishment, not because it was the best thing for their own future jesus WEP fucked around with this message at 13:55 on May 28, 2014 |
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HJB posted:He was on an 18 month contract, was he not? Yes, he was no more than a glorified caretaker, but he was specifically employed to be the manager. It had a break clause where they could let him go for free at the end of the season. It was public knowledge they had sounded out immediate replacements but they had wanted to wait till the end of the season. Then they hired someone from within with no managerial experience. Its pretty clear its a caretaker position.
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May 28, 2014 13:54
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incidentally, the caretaker position is also your mam's favourite position!
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A caretaker position with most of the season to go and only 6 or so points off fourth, lol. Glad spurs are run by idiots
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I haven't made up my mind about Levy because we really don't know a lot about how he operates, which successes and failures hes responsible for, or even who out there could replace him and do a better job. But if Levy was the manager and had fired 10 first team coaches for various reasons (some justified), would Spurs fans still be sticking by him?
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:I haven't made up my mind about Levy because we really don't know a lot about how he operates, which successes and failures hes responsible for, or even who out there could replace him and do a better job. Depends, how fancy would his tactics be?
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At that point it would come down to results and how we were playing, and his results have been very good. If we're doing analogies, sacking Levy now would be like sacking a manager who pick you up in 10th 13 years ago and has had you top 5 in six of the last 9 seasons, with the 6th finish as the first outside the top 5 in 5 years. His stewardship is the most successful for the club in 30 years. If this was a manager we were talking about, we'd be crazy to lose him. Fat Turkey fucked around with this message at 16:01 on May 28, 2014 |
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May 28, 2014 15:57
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Trick question, fans dont give a poo poo about coaches.
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St Evan Echoes posted:And their decision has been fully justified by all the top-3 finishes they've had since When a manager obviously mentally checks out like that instead of behaving like a professional, why should they renew his contract? Redknapp could have still been at Tottenham now but he made his own crappy bed and I don't see why Spurs were that foolish in letting him go. I think you're also assuming that Redknapp could have pulled off another top 4 finish in the subsequent seasons and I don't think that was definitely in the cards. Fat Turkey posted:At that point it would come down to results and how we were playing, and his results have been very good. But what if you find a better replacement?
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At this point in time, I've stopped really caring who our manager is. Unless they do exceptionally well with us a la Rodgers and Liverpool or exceptionally badly a la Ramos they are basically all the same to me.
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May 28, 2014 16:15
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Same but about stepdads.
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Her clients aren't your stepdads, hth
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Jose posted:Its in the Journal this morning that Sunderland are expecting Southampton to want Poyet as his replacement Poyet's just signed a contract with Sunderland until 2016. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11695/9329581/premier-league-sunderland-boss-gus-poyet-signs-new-deal
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St Evan Echoes posted:And their decision has been fully justified by all the top-3 finishes they've had since <implying Redknapp has any sort of plans for the future, other than the England job he nver got>
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Wirth1000 posted:Poyet's just signed a contract with Sunderland until 2016.  Was pretty worried there, would like to have someone in charge for more than a single season please
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http://www.buccaneers.com/news/article-1/Buccaneers-Owner-Malcolm-Glazer-Passes-Away/93db9a70-e779-4653-a4e5-4dc7991365c0 Malcolm Glazer is dead
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Fat Turkey posted:AVB - Again good on paper. Maybe he should have given him the season. But we just had been battered by City and Liverpool while playing the worst football in a decade at Spurs. The AVB decision was horrendous. Being battered by City and Liverpool aren't reasons to sack a manager unless you're a small time club and the whole idea of Spurs playing the 'worst football in a decade' is asinine when you consider the fact that AVB was leading Spurs to one of their highest point totals in club history. Spurs hired AVB to see out a long term project and sacked him at the first sign of struggle. Levy is clueless and overestimates his club's stature.
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Real Name Grover posted:http://www.buccaneers.com/news/article-1/Buccaneers-Owner-Malcolm-Glazer-Passes-Away/93db9a70-e779-4653-a4e5-4dc7991365c0 It's a sad day. A toast to the man who stole more money from Man Utd than Bebe's agent could ever dream of.
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Teddy Sheringham is going to teach the West Ham strikers how to
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