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Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Sugar (colin farrell series), theres just floor inside his door. he comes home and walks in and its his living room floor. some kind of laminate, from the sound, so its probably cheap to replace for a guy like him. but still, no mat or anything? insanity

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800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

BioEnchanted posted:

Yeah, the Fiance often isn't even a bad guy, he's just who the audience roots against by virtue of not being the main character. Liar Liar also does this with the rival being the sweetest guy in the universe, it's just that because he doesn't have Jim Carrey's manic energy he can't sell the banter with the child so he has to go.

My favorite iteration of this, and I mean that sincerely, is all of Roland Emmerich's movies. Like, all of them. The main protagonist is some sulky divorced dad loser whose ex is now with a real good guy, just the best guy. This guy is so good, such a towering pillar of morality and strength, that he inevitably sacrifices his life to save the protagonist, his wife, and his step kids. And he'll say some poo poo to the sack of garbage protag like, "take good care of them, they mean everything to me" right before doing the most heroic thing imaginable. It is so loving funny every time.

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


800peepee51doodoo posted:

My favorite iteration of this, and I mean that sincerely, is all of Roland Emmerich's movies. Like, all of them. The main protagonist is some sulky divorced dad loser whose ex is now with a real good guy, just the best guy. This guy is so good, such a towering pillar of morality and strength, that he inevitably sacrifices his life to save the protagonist, his wife, and his step kids. And he'll say some poo poo to the sack of garbage protag like, "take good care of them, they mean everything to me" right before doing the most heroic thing imaginable. It is so loving funny every time.

My girlfriend haaated me for pointing this out as we suffered through Moonfall.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

800peepee51doodoo posted:

My favorite iteration of this, and I mean that sincerely, is all of Roland Emmerich's movies. Like, all of them. The main protagonist is some sulky divorced dad loser whose ex is now with a real good guy, just the best guy. This guy is so good, such a towering pillar of morality and strength, that he inevitably sacrifices his life to save the protagonist, his wife, and his step kids. And he'll say some poo poo to the sack of garbage protag like, "take good care of them, they mean everything to me" right before doing the most heroic thing imaginable. It is so loving funny every time.

It's extra funny to bring this divorced American macho dad energy when you're a gay German guy.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

800peepee51doodoo posted:

My favorite iteration of this, and I mean that sincerely, is all of Roland Emmerich's movies. Like, all of them. The main protagonist is some sulky divorced dad loser whose ex is now with a real good guy, just the best guy. This guy is so good, such a towering pillar of morality and strength, that he inevitably sacrifices his life to save the protagonist, his wife, and his step kids. And he'll say some poo poo to the sack of garbage protag like, "take good care of them, they mean everything to me" right before doing the most heroic thing imaginable. It is so loving funny every time.

The exact opposite of this is in San Andreas. A coward who abandons his stepdaughter while she is trapped by debris, later shoving someone else into danger to save his own hide. You're almost rooting for him to die and for the ex-wife and the main character (good upstanding rescue pilot played by The Rock) to get back together again.

The thing is, he dies on the Golden Gate bridge surrounded by lots of other people fleeing the city. They might have not been crushed by a container from a cargo ship, but they surely drowned because of the insane waves. Kind of hard to feel the schadenfreude that way, it doesn't matter that they where all nameless extras or CGI creations in distant shots.

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Spielberg's War of the Worlds is a funny one since it kinda plays the opposite of the usual Disaster Movie Protagonist role (and the bits where he plays it straight iirc were probably mandated by the studio) with his entire family surviving despite running away on their own without him, and an ending suggesting he realises they never needed him as much as he thought they did.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.
Captain America: The Winter Soldier is definitely one of the best MCU movies, but I still get really annoyed that Cap hid the "ultra secret USB drive" in a vending machine. And not, like, inside the money area, or up behind the trim where it wouldn't be seen. No, kept it in the dispenser for some gum. Visible to the naked eye. Do I think Hydra was going to find it there? No (although Black Widow easily did.)

But what if some guy was buying gum, saw the USB drive, and figured he'd plop a few more quarters in there to get it? He'd pop it into his PC at home to see what's on it, get confused that it's government secrets, then not have time to contemplate it before a missile blows up his entire street.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Carthag Tuek posted:

Sugar (colin farrell series), theres just floor inside his door. he comes home and walks in and its his living room floor. some kind of laminate, from the sound, so its probably cheap to replace for a guy like him. but still, no mat or anything? insanity

Look at this bourgeois fancy pants who can afford a mat.

Zero_Grade
Mar 18, 2004

Darktider 🖤🌊

~Neck Angels~

DrBouvenstein posted:

Captain America: The Winter Soldier is definitely one of the best MCU movies, but I still get really annoyed that Cap hid the "ultra secret USB drive" in a vending machine. And not, like, inside the money area, or up behind the trim where it wouldn't be seen. No, kept it in the dispenser for some gum. Visible to the naked eye. Do I think Hydra was going to find it there? No (although Black Widow easily did.)

But what if some guy was buying gum, saw the USB drive, and figured he'd plop a few more quarters in there to get it? He'd pop it into his PC at home to see what's on it, get confused that it's government secrets, then not have time to contemplate it before a missile blows up his entire street.
Relating to the conversation last page, this would 100% fit in as a gag scene in Archer.

(I agree that plot point was pretty :raise: in the actual movie)

Bk.
Nov 9, 2009
Normally I finish what I'm watching first, but I had to stop 28 Weeks Later and come complain right away.

The infected (and highly infectious) wife is being held in some secure facility, but the room she's in has no guards and is unlocked. Robert Carlyle just walks right in and makes out with her.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Bk. posted:

Normally I finish what I'm watching first, but I had to stop 28 Weeks Later and come complain right away.

The infected (and highly infectious) wife is being held in some secure facility, but the room she's in has no guards and is unlocked. Robert Carlyle just walks right in and makes out with her.

It's been a while but I'm pretty sure he has a skeleton key and the guard stepped out for a smoke, or something. Still not exactly Fort Knox, but they didn't have a revolving door to her cell.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
I took a date to see that at the movies. That scene kinda killed the sexy time atmosphere.

Not as bad as the time I took a date to see starship troopers at the movies after a big spaghetti dinner though.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If you took me to see starship troopers after a big spaghetti dinner I wouldn't complain. Sounds like a great night out.

Marcade
Jun 11, 2006


Who are you to glizzy gobble El Vago's marshmussy?

Alien may be a bad movie choice, though.

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
AUTOMATED
and you are
OBSOLETE

Illegal Hen
Can speak from experience that Colossal starring Anne Hathaway & Jason Sudeikis is a terrible date movie, especially if you know the plot twist.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
Oh, yea that one was a gut punch.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Marcade posted:

Alien may be a bad movie choice, though.

If Alien turns out to be a bad movie choice at any time they're not the one for you

Bk.
Nov 9, 2009

Grendels Dad posted:

It's been a while but I'm pretty sure he has a skeleton key and the guard stepped out for a smoke, or something. Still not exactly Fort Knox, but they didn't have a revolving door to her cell.

He's shown to have some sort of key card thing because he's a maintenance guy or custodian or whatever, guess I missed him using it to get into the cell.

Don't worry, I have more complaints.

The annoying little brother character foreshadowingly tells his sister that they definitely won't get separated again.

The inevitable separation happens when they both fall down some stairs in a dark subway station.
Sis is then at the bottom of the stairs, obviously.
Bro is just randomly somewhere else.

Edit:
The kid's name is Mackintosh Muggleton, which is pretty funny.
The sister is played by Imogen Poots, who is obviously more well known but also has a very funny name.
This is not a complaint.

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Detective Thompson
Nov 9, 2007

Sammy Davis Jr. Jr. is also in repose.
Both of those names are so preciously British. Mackintosh Muggleton sounds like some dumb Harry Potter character that's a wizard trying to pretend he's a regular person. "Yup, no bleedin' wizards 'ere! Jus' me, ol' Mackintosh Muggleton!".

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Bk. posted:

Normally I finish what I'm watching first, but I had to stop 28 Weeks Later and come complain right away.

The infected (and highly infectious) wife is being held in some secure facility, but the room she's in has no guards and is unlocked. Robert Carlyle just walks right in and makes out with her.

My sister has different-coloured eyes so this movie was a gift to me in some ways

Marcade
Jun 11, 2006


Who are you to glizzy gobble El Vago's marshmussy?

What's it like having an anime protagonist for a sister?

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Argylle is a bad movie but a really bizarre thing where nobody has problems killing guys except when it comes to Bryan Cranston's character. The main characters get the drop on him multiple times but for some reason just knock him out instead of killing him.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Marcade posted:

What's it like having an anime protagonist for a sister?

I'm afraid my simmering resentment about how beautiful and magical she is will cause me to become some sort of supervillain, but so far so good.

e: she has one green eye and one brown eye, and her little girl is always very careful to render this when drawing pictures of the family :3:

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Also the movie is a coward because the "real" Argylle and Wyatt are lovers and they don't do that with Cavill and Cena versions of the characters.

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
AUTOMATED
and you are
OBSOLETE

Illegal Hen

HopperUK posted:

I'm afraid my simmering resentment about how beautiful and magical she is will cause me to become some sort of supervillain, but so far so good.

e: she has one green eye and one brown eye, and her little girl is always very careful to render this when drawing pictures of the family :3:

Everyone has one brown eye if you really think about it.
:butts:

Taeke
Feb 2, 2010


i'm rewatching the West Wing now. I don't really know why. I just finished Veep and I was in the mood for more political stuff and this popped up, so whatever. Like 15 years ago I watched bits and pieces of it, I think, but I never really gave it proper watch.

Now I'm not even through the first season and already I get why people drag on it, and I feel the Aaron Sorkin vibe I got with The Newsroon where it's all very idealistically and super liberal patting yourself on the back. Strangely (or maybe not so because it's so recent) it reminds me of Rebel Moon but instead of the slow mo picturesque shots it's dramatic music and a monologue. But I can get past that, and I'm enjoying it as kind of background TV while doing other stuff and it's a pretty cool presentation of the politics, media and culture of 25 years ago. There's something nostalgic about it all.

What I came here to complain about though is the misogyny, because holy poo poo it's so loving odd and off putting. It's odd and weird because on the one hand you can tell that they're really putting in the effort of creating strong, fully developed female characters with agency, their own plots and all that, which I guess was kinda new 25 years ago? Great characters like CJ, Laurie, Zoey and even those in smaller roles they get their chance to shine.
Except when there's a conflict with one of the main male characters. At most they get some punches in with some witty back and forth banter but inevitably, in the end, there's a monologue by the male character (often with a suitable piece of music in the background) and they just concede. No matter how wrong the male character was, how much he hosed up, how much of a total and utter dick he was, in the end the woman is completely subservient and just has no choice but to bow down to the logic and reason of the male character's arguments and if the man wasn't reasonable or whatever, it's forgiven because who can blame the poor guy because he was really stressed for whatever reason and the woman should really just just get over it?

Just ew, it's loving icky once you notice it.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
Sorkin is one of the worst writers of women in history.

ShadeofBlue
Mar 17, 2011

Don’t worry it gets better. There’s even that one episode where all the men turn to the camera and talk about how great the women on the show are. God I wish I were joking.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Just wait til you get to when they talk about Africa!

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

The West Wing has a character win a witty banter by saying that all of Gilbert & Sullivan's works are about duty. They're not. One of them is about duty, and it's the one subtitled "The Slave of Duty."

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BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
There is at least that one pretty funny thing where CJ has a root canal and can't do the press tour and Josh tries to cover and completely blows it by bantering at the wrong time by responding to a question with "do you really want your first question to be something that stupid?"

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Taeke posted:

i'm rewatching the West Wing now...all very idealistically and super liberal patting yourself on the back.

Late 90s 'End of History' stuff is just loving terrible.

Even at the time it sucked, but knowing all that smug self-congratulatory bullshit flies out the window in 2001 makes it all the worse. Thinking they had it all worked out, while right wingers were simply getting all their racist ducks in a row, just waiting for the first opportunity to take it all away forever.

BirdOfPlay
Feb 19, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER
I have no clue why but only one scene from the West Wing lives in my head. The plot is about trying to institute an inheritance tax, and it's revealed that the Congressional Black Caucus is united against the tax. Several of the characters simply cannot comprehend why they would be against it, until the president (or maybe one of the main aides?) just says "the first generation of African-American millionaires are about to die" with a music swell and fade to commercial.

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stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

The only West Wing scene that sticks with me is when that one character actor that always plays scientists explained why the Mercator Projection sucks.

/e: John Billingsley, a pro

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Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




The Good Place: Eventually Hitler will be allowed to enter the good place.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

Alhazred posted:

The Good Place: Eventually Hitler will be allowed to enter the good place.

I appreciate that this is indeed a potential flaw in the ending, but you're assuming that at any point Hitler will be able to conceptualise he ever did anything wrong and change. It's perfectly possible that there are people who will remain in the test loop forever.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

BirdOfPlay posted:

I have no clue why but only one scene from the West Wing lives in my head. The plot is about trying to institute an inheritance tax, and it's revealed that the Congressional Black Caucus is united against the tax. Several of the characters simply cannot comprehend why they would be against it, until the president (or maybe one of the main aides?) just says "the first generation of African-American millionaires are about to die" with a music swell and fade to commercial.

That feels realistic though.
Nothing better is possible in America, because US is unique snowflake nation with special circumstances.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
Seraphim Falls, older movie but pre Taken Liam Nieson and Pierce Brosnan post Bond. Usual Western with revenge story (one dude killed the other's family and made him watch but it was an Oopsie because he didn't KNOW the baby was in the house when he set it on fire, and wife and son ran in to save the baby while the house burned up) and we finally get to the big climax fight, and it ends up being a fistfight and then....they meet Mysterious Native who convinces them to trade their last knives/bullets/whatever, and then a super mystical witch who also offers them some weird rear end magic. One last fight and....they realize revenge is not gonna solve anything. And they end up parting on non homicidal terms and head off to other ends of the country.

Like, I am all for bucking the formula story, but what in the absolute gently caress? It's like the first 80% of the movie plays as a Western and then they have to throw in Magic POC/Anjelica Houston as a traveling witch for giggles. And I'm sorry, but the idea of a dude who lost his family going "welp, i guess revenge really is empty, better let the killer go since he feels sad about it." is weird as hell when it's framed as a Western revenge.

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Alexander Hamilton
Dec 29, 2008
Not just that movie but any movie with a Confederate soldier as the lead is not something I can really watch. I just want them to die the whole time.

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