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SylvainMustach
Dec 12, 2007

Superior Trash Talk!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luka_Magnotta

Luke Magnotta. One of the grisliest killers in a long time, kills Chinese student, dismembers the corpse and sends out the limbs to various Canadian political parties. Guys like this, at least in the past, tend to escalate so it was amazing, and fortunate, that he was caught relatively soon after his first murder.

I think someone mentioned in the previous thread that he was a goon. True or not, it lead me to wonder if there were any other killers who frequented the forums.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cunanan
Andrew Cunanan seemed like a fairly successful and well adjusted gay man until he started to prostitute himself and appear in increasingly sadomasochistic pornography. The especially creepy touch about this guy isn't in mentioned in the article, but in a chilling piece of foreshadowing, he filled the space of his high school year book typically reserved for comments, memories and song lyrics with the quote from the court of Louis XV.

quote:

“…Apres Moi, Le Deluge…”
or
“…After Me, The Storm (or Flood)…”

He would go on a little killing spree, ultimately ending with the death of Fashion designer Gianni Versace (followed by suicide).

The level of crimes that both of these guys committed, with seemingly little hesitation, premeditation or real motive (well one of Cunanan's seemed to have a motive), really creeped me out. I'm a true crime buff but I legitimately found these guys to be chilling.

As for a creepy, recently captured, Serial Killer, we have Israel Keyes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Keyes

Israel is unique in having killed over a long span (starting in the Early 90s and only ending around two years ago) with little to no victim profile and almost no media attention. This is largely due to the fact that there weren't many connections made early on between his crimes, both due to the differing profiles of the victims and their distance geographically.

He also left behind a long and rambling suicide note.

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SylvainMustach
Dec 12, 2007

Superior Trash Talk!
One I haven't seen posted here, or in the previous thread, is the Order of the Solar Temple.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Solar_Temple

As a Freemason, this one unnerved me quite a bit largely because they, like other pseudo-masonic organizations, claimed a direct lineage to the original Knights Templar (if your curious, I'm of the opinion that there may have been links with the surviving knights and the stone guilds, the latter of which would open their membership to the public and become what we know of as Freemasonry today. contrary to pop-historians, I don't believe they influenced the Guilds but assimilated into them. Our Knights Templar, of which I'm a member, are simply a christian subgroup in the Masonic Family that applies the teachings of freemasonry on a more denominational level).

This, coupled with the fact that they were influenced, structurally to an extent (not so much philosophically) by the ceremonies and, early on, formalities of Freemasonry, along with the fact that they acted out every Conspiracy Theorists wet-dream of what they think Freemasons do. From Ritual Mass Murder/Suicide to infiltration of influential and wealthy people, along with members of law enforcement, leading to conspiracies, death and mystery.

This is made all the creepier by their hidden rooms in otherwise unassuming houses and the ritualized formations of pentagrams by those who had chosen to take their life for this cult.

quote:

In October 1994 Tony Dutoit's infant son (Emmanuel Dutoit), aged three months, was killed at the group's centre in Morin Heights, Quebec. The baby had been stabbed repeatedly with a wooden stake. It is believed that Di Mambro ordered the murder, because he identified the baby as the Anti-Christ described in the Bible. He believed that the Anti-Christ was born into the order to prevent Di Mambro from succeeding in his spiritual aim.

A few days later, Di Mambro and twelve followers performed a ritual Last Supper. A few days after that, apparent mass suicides and murders were conducted at Cheiry and Salvan, two villages in Western Switzerland, and at Morin Heights — 15 inner circle members committed suicide with poison, 30 were killed by bullets or smothering, and 8 others were killed by other causes. In Switzerland, many of the victims were found in a secret underground chapel lined with mirrors and other items of Templar symbolism. The bodies were dressed in the order's ceremonial robes and were in a circle, feet together, heads outward, most with plastic bags tied over their heads; they had each been shot in the head. There was also evidence that many of the victims in Switzerland were drugged before they were shot. Other victims were found in three ski chalets; several dead children were lying together. The tragedy was discovered when officers rushed to the sites to fight the fires which had been ignited by remote-control devices. Farewell letters left by the believers stated that they believed they were leaving to escape the "hypocrisies and oppression of this world."

A mayor, a journalist, a civil servant and a sales manager were found among the dead in Switzerland. Records seized by the Quebec police showed that some members had personally donated over $CAD1 million to the group's leader Joseph Di Mambro. There was also another attempted mass suicide of the remaining members which was thwarted in the late 1990s. All the suicide/murders and attempts occurred around the dates of the equinoxes and solstices in some relation to the beliefs of the group.

The photograph below is of one of their abandoned ceremonial spaces.

SylvainMustach
Dec 12, 2007

Superior Trash Talk!
There's nothing masonic about that. I work for a masonic grand lodge in our library and I've read almost every ritual I could get my hands on. It doesn't resemble any of it, but it sure is super creepy.

EDIT: I can go into pretty much anything and won't get in trouble. Don't worry. On that note, if you have any questions about anything masonic, check out the Ask/Tell thread about us. The other brethren there are, as far as I can tell, just as knowledgeable, candid and happy to talk about it as I am (perhaps even more so).

So to you, or anyone else, bug us here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3523447

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SylvainMustach
Dec 12, 2007

Superior Trash Talk!

Erghh posted:

I had forgotten about that part. Years ago there was an article by a guy (student I think) who was reading through old medical journals and came across material from a CA doctor noting an outbreak of an unusual disease affecting the elderly. A lot of the resulting detective work helped draw attention to this stuff. Can't find the original but this on Serratia looks to hit the highlights.

Going back to Masonic/Orders :tinfoil: content: Propaganda Due

The key thing to remember here is that their true creepiness peaked while their charter revoked, making them masonically, as stated, irregular and unrecognized. This, mind you, didn't help us at all when the media jumped all over it, but at least the Grand Orient of Italy did the right thing when they realized just what was going on.

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