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Dude should have taken a tip from Israel Keyes and written an epic prose poem instead.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Delano_Floyd
Dude kidnaps a little girl and raises her as his daughter. All the while sexually abusing her.
They still have no idea who she was before she was kidnapped.
They then get married when she's old enough.
THEN she has a kid, but not with Floyd.
Floyd hits her with a car, she dies. He puts the son in foster care and leaves the state.
Some time later, he returns and abducts the boy from his school. Boy is never seen again. Floyd's sitting on death row.
That picture made me cringe.
e: don't forget the part where he forces her to be a stripper and prostitute, then beats one of her friends to death in front of her so she'll be too afraid to leave him. And the child pornography of her the police found in his truck after he disappeared.
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Sep 23, 2014 00:20
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I've never really found anything to back this up but a history proffesor once told me that LeMay seriously advocated that we send several nukes into space because he was convinced that the Soviets were testing hydrogen bombs on the dark side of the moon.
Testing nuclear bombs on the moon was something the US was actually considering doing in 1959 (PDF warning) -- http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/425380.pdf
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Nuclear detonations in the vicinity of the moon are considered in this report along with scientific information which might be obtained from such explosions. The military aspect is aided by investigation of space environment, detection of nuclear device testing, and capability of weapons in space.
A study was conducted of various theories of the moon's structure and origin, and a description of the probable nature of the lunar surface is given. The areas discussed in some detail are optical lunar studies, seismic observations, lunar surface and magnetic fields, plasma and magnetic field effects, and organic matter on the moon.
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Sep 24, 2014 15:48
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From that link: quote: The mother went to the local police and FBI and tried to file kidnapping charges but they declined to investigate saying that since Floyd was their stepfather he apparently had a right to take the children.
What the almighty gently caress. I hope the full horror of what that girl lived through remains on their consciences to the rest of their days.
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I've seen the body of St. Clare of Assisi, and either her remains themselves look like she's been turned to wax, or someone has put a wax mask over the face, because that's what she looked like. A friend of mine (who was with me in Assisi when we saw St. Clare) was in France this summer and saw the body of St. Catherine Laboure, and she said that, unlike St. Clare, the body looked like a living person who was asleep.
I would love to learn more about these cases -- are they all hoaxes and the bodies have been embalmed? Surely even embalmed corpses decay over centuries? St. Clare of Assisi died in the 1200s and St. Catherine Laboure died in 1876, for reference.
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My entire boyfriend's family almost died of CO2 exposure early Sunday morning. I went over Friday and when I walked in I mentioned how the house reeked like sulphur. Everyone in the house was used to the smell and dismissed my comment, chalking it up to Grandma's bad cooking. Walked in Saturday shortly after noon and it smelled soo much like sulphur I pressed the matter until my boyfriend's grandfather begrudgingly took a look at the boiler and furnace. He came to the conclusion that "we'll get someone over to look at it on Monday." My boyfriend and I shortly thereafter left to go to a party.
We returned to his house at 4am Sunday morning to find first responders driving away, and a heating/cooling specialist parked in the driveway. Everyone was awake, grumpy, and cold. His mom turned to me and said in the middle of the night she heard this weird sound that woke her up, very much like The Master's drum beat from Doctor Who that she thought she was dreaming, then realizing it was the CO2 detector and got everyone the hell out of the house.
Since then she's been saying "we almost died, what would you two have done if we all just died this weekend?" It's not helping my anxiety...
Shouted "I TOLD YOU SO" at their coffins? Sulphur smell = additive added to natural gas = hey you have a gas leak
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It's funny how mental disorder never gives people the urge to, like, build orphanages by hand or feed every homeless person on their home block or something. Instead of having the urge to break into women's apartments to rape them in their sleep, how about breaking in to tuck them in and sing them lullabies? Why's it always got to be rape and torture, mayhem and murder?
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Jan 16, 2015 22:14
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Re Catholicism, that's not completely true anymore. From the Catechism: quote: 2280 Everyone is responsible for his life before God who has given it to him. It is God who remains the sovereign Master of life. We are obliged to accept life gratefully and preserve it for his honor and the salvation of our souls. We are stewards, not owners, of the life God has entrusted to us. It is not ours to dispose of.
2281 Suicide contradicts the natural inclination of the human being to preserve and perpetuate his life. It is gravely contrary to the just love of self. It likewise offends love of neighbor because it unjustly breaks the ties of solidarity with family, nation, and other human societies to which we continue to have obligations. Suicide is contrary to love for the living God.
2282 If suicide is committed with the intention of setting an example, especially to the young, it also takes on the gravity of scandal. Voluntary co-operation in suicide is contrary to the moral law.
Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide.
2283 We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives.
But as per 2282, helping someone commit suicide is a sin. The Church also doesn't do "moral" vs. "venial" sins anymore as strict categories. Well, drat me, that's not true per the Catechism. That's what I learned in Catholic school, though. The idea was that you weren't supposed to be all like, "oh, this sin is okay since it's only a venial sin," you were supposed to avoid sinning altogether, since mortal and venial sins alike offended God.
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I dunno, I think there are enough differences between the two stories that at least one of the men, if not both of them, could have easily existed at some point. The attributes shared by both stories, for the most part, strike me as things that would be plausible or common for people suffering from conditions like theirs in that time period. Their alleged birth countries are far enough apart that it seems unlikely both tales evolved from the circulation of one single story.
There's also this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Lotito He died in 2007, and he ate his crazy meals (like a plane) in public.
And just in case you were wondering -- quote: He also had no problem "passing" his unusual diet.
Whew, I was so worried.
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quote:When still known as Charles Island in 1819, the island was set alight as a prank by helmsman Thomas Chappel from the Nantucket whaling ship the Essex. Being the height of the dry season, the fire soon burned out of control. The next day saw the island still burning as the ship sailed for the offshore grounds and after a full day of sailing the fire was still visible on the horizon. Many years later Thomas Nickerson, who had been a cabin boy on the Essex, returned to Charles Island and found a black wasteland: "neither trees, shrubbery, nor grass have since appeared." It is believed the fire contributed to the extinction of some species originally on the island..
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Feb 24, 2015 23:05
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I remember this too, and my memory is suggesting that the killer had the body chopped up in sealed garbage bags in the trunk. I don't think it was Dahmer (I have a vague memory that it was someone with adult female victims). Might have been Bundy, but I thought it was someone else. I went through a phase of reading about serial killers, but it's been a long time.
The story that always stuck in my head about Bundy was about one potential victim who got away. She was a waitress, I think, and he had her in his car and wouldn't let her go. She told him "please, my 5-year-old daughter is sleeping alone at home and I don't know what she'll do if she wakes up and I'm not there," and she said something changed in his face and he stopped the car and let her out. Like he had a small moment of humanity that broke through. For some reason that makes him creepier to me than if he were straight-up evil 100% of the time. Like, somewhere inside him there was a human being, and then he did all those horrible things anyway.
There is actually a book out there written by Ted Bundy's girlfriend at the time he was killing women in Washington -- The Phantom Prince, by Elizabeth Kendall. I read it a long time ago and don't remember too much detail, but Kendall lived with Bundy along with her young daughter from a previous relationship, and she reports that he was an attentive boyfriend to her and good father-figure to her daughter. It was only in hindsight that his quirks and their relationship problems took on ominous significance. (IIRC, she only began to suspect something was seriously awry with him when it was around the time that a police sketch of the local serial killer came out that strongly resembled Bundy, AND he brought home a couple of grocery bags full of women's underwear and had some half-assed explanation for them.)
The one thing that sticks in my mind is that Kendall was a jogger, and she said Bundy would tell her to be careful when jogging at night because "you never know who's out there."
The book's worth a read if you can find it. It's long out of print and I see it's selling for over $100 on Amazon, but you could probably get it through your library's Interlibrary Loan service.
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Each dot on this map represents a body, usually that of a prostitute, that was found along a major highway in the space of thirty years or so. I believe all were thought to be the work of serial killers.
I think I read somewhere that truck driving is like, the ideal profession for that sort of thing. Rest stops and whatnot have freaked me out ever since.
When I lived right off the Northern Cheyenne Reservation in Montana (which is probably where that dot in the southeastern corner of the state sits, or near it), I was told many times by various people with varying degrees of sincerity or cynicism, that if you ever want to kill someone, do it on the reservation. No one will ever find the body and no one will ever look for you if they do. (And then they would tell me that I was safe because I was a white woman. That took a while for me to comprehend, but it was an eye-opening lesson in white privilege before it became a Tumblr cliche.)
That, combined with the fact that Native American women are victims of violent and sexual crime at a much higher rate than any other demographic, with over 80% of that violence perpetrated by someone of another race (i.e., white), is horrifying. Still more invisible, disposable people. Most Americans think Native Americans are pretty much nearly extinct, anyway, like the black rhinocerous or something.
E: Looking again at that map, I can tell you that the dot in the very top right corner of Wyoming is on the city of Gillette or its surroundings, and there is literally gently caress-all nothing around it for miles and miles. I once drove (stupidly, by myself, without telling anyone where I was going) from where I lived in Montana to Gillette and passed only two cars in the entire 2 hours the trip took, one-way. Time it right and you could probably have the time to rape, kill, and dismember a whole family in the middle of the highway there without being caught. You could almost certainly do it if you just drove into the brush out of sight of the road.
E2: Just remembered I had taken my camera with me on that little excursion and got a picture of the emptiness --
(I think I was taking a picture of the car ahead of me, since it meant I was no longer alone.  )
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Bundy also volunteered at a rape crisis hotline and a suicide hotline, which was where he met Ann Rule. Who knows what he was really thinking when he answered the phones, but he came off as helpful to callers and a good listener.
Just saw this -- Ann Rule has passed away. I've never read A Stranger Beside Me -- gotta fix that.
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Jul 28, 2015 19:36
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Heh, there's a meme going around that Taylor Swift looks like Zeena Schreck (aka Zeena LaVey, Anton's daughter), so yesterday I checked out her wiki page, and wouldn't you know, she's germane to this topic. 
quote:1980s "Satanic Panic"
In the 1980s the media reported concerns of criminal conspiracies within the Church of Satan. The FBI would later issue an official report refuting the criminal conspiracy theories of this time.[12] This phenomenon became known as the "Satanic Panic". LaVey's daughter Zeena was the spokeswoman and High Priestess within the Church of Satan during the 1980s.[6]
Some of Zeena's groundbreaking work combating media hysteria about Satanism included taking a proactive stance against the allegations in the media by working with government sectors and law enforcement agencies to educate about the reality of Satanism. In the 1980s Zeena was in regular contact with law enforcement agencies and personnel, including Detective Patrick Metoyer of the LAPD[13] and Robert D. Hicks, law-enforcement specialist with the Virginia Department of Criminal Justice Services and author of several precedent setting treatises[14] including In Pursuit of Satan: The Police and The Occult, In Pursuit of Satan began the wave of authoritative reports debunking the Satanic Panic. Much of what Hicks gleaned from Zeena's dialogs with him was included in this treatise. Prior to Zeena's dialogs and meetings with government agencies, police and law enforcement didn't know, from the Satanist's point of view, what Satanism truly was.
Zeena's regular appearances on national broadcasts defending the Church of Satan began with a specific event. In a September 2011 interview, Zeena states, "In 1985, a US news show called 20/20 accused The Satanic Bible of being responsible for child daycare Satanic ritual abuse, allegations which were new then. [...] I called my father and asked him what his media strategy would be to deal with this catastrophe. Nothing. He didn't care. As far as he was concerned it didn't concern him. It wasn't anything he needed to worry about. He certainly wasn't going out in public to do anything about it. He admitted that many media sources had already contacted him and he was just going to ignore it until it went away. I tried to convince him that this would only get worse if he didn't respond and that he really needed to get someone to answer calls quickly or it would be taken as an admission of guilt or suspicion. Finally he admitted he had no one to deal with interviews or media. I offered to help temporarily until he found someone. This was not what I'd intended to do with my life, I had other plans."[15][16]
From then until her renunciation of the Church of Satan in 1990, Zeena appeared in such nationally syndicated programs as The Phil Donahue Show, Nightline with Ted Koppel, Entertainment Tonight, The Late Show[disambiguation needed], Secrets & Mysteries and the Sally Jessy Raphael Show. The appearances were made at the behest of the Church of Satan as its spokesperson. She did this on behalf of her father Anton LaVey, who was no longer interested in making media appearances, as she stated while being interviewed alongside her husband by televangelist Bob Larson.[17] Zeena became internationally known within the mass media in the 1980s through her active role publicly defending her father's organization against allegations of Satanic ritual abuse and was interviewed in the legendary broadcast of "Devil Worship: Exposing Satan's Underground" released by Geraldo Rivera in 1988.[18] Zeena sat alongside Michael A. Aquino (Temple of Set founder/High Priest), and repeatedly denied the rumors circulating at the time that the Church of Satan was in any way involved with Satanic ritual abuse. She also called the testimony of claimants involved into question, asking them rhetorically why, if people were being forced to give birth to babies for sacrificial rituals, no remains had ever been found.
Toward the end of her time as High Priestess, Zeena also appeared with her then husband Nikolas Schreck (not a member of the COS) in an interview with televangelist Bob Larson, during which they both refuted any Satanic criminal ties, and pressed Bob Larson on his own ideals, stating that it was hypocritical of him to endorse such claims by Christians, pointing out the Christian background of many criminals, and violent acts within Christian history, such as the crusades.[17] In 1990, only a few months after this now famous interview, Zeena resigned from the Church of Satan and renounced LaVeyan Satanism.[6] Zeena's Interview on KJTV with Tony Valdez, 1990, was the last interview she granted as public representative and High Priestess of the Church of Satan before resigning.[19][20]
It goes on to say: quote:After leaving the politically motivated media witch-hunt of the U.S. satanic panic, and after she and her husband concluded their collaborative work within the Radio Werewolf magical musical cycle, Zeena declined most interview requests. Her official website states: "Preferring to allow her work to speak for itself and indifferent to public opinion, Zeena has granted only a very few interviews since 1993."[43]
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By the close of the 20th Century, it had been ten years since Zeena permanently renounced the Social Darwinist, Objectivist, Machiavellian Egoism-based LaVeyan satanism within which she was raised. Instead, she pursued ancient religious practices relating to the Egyptian god Seth and Sethianism while continuing to practice traditional tantra and yoga. Her experiences within those two systems, as well as her central role and life's experience in other occult and esoteric milieux, would contribute considerably to the content of her book 'Demons of the Flesh', co-authored with Nikolas Schreck.
She's also a musician, illustrator, producer/director, and author. Interesting woman.
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Aileen Wuornos is another serial killer who I feel nothing but sad for. Her life was over before it began.
quote:Wuornos was born Aileen Carol Pittman in Rochester, Michigan, on February 29, 1956.[2] Her mother, Diane Wuornos (born 1939), was 14 years old when she married Aileen's father, Leo Dale Pittman (born circa 1937), on June 3, 1954. Less than two years later, and two months before Aileen was born, Diane filed for divorce. Aileen's older brother Keith was born on March 14, 1955.[3]
Wuornos never met her father; he was incarcerated at the time of her birth.[2] Pittman was diagnosed with schizophrenia, later convicted of sex crimes against children,[4] and eventually hanged himself in prison on January 30, 1969.[1][5] In January 1960, when Wuornos was almost four years old, Diane abandoned her children, leaving them with their maternal grandparents, Lauri and Britta Wuornos, who legally adopted Keith and Aileen on March 18, 1960.[5]
By the age 11, Wuornos began engaging in sexual activities in school in exchange for cigarettes, drugs, and food.[6] She had also engaged in sexual activities with her brother.[4] Wuornos claimed that her alcoholic grandfather had sexually assaulted and beaten her when she was a child; before beating her, he would force her to strip out of her clothes.[4] In 1970, at age 14, she became pregnant,[7] having been raped by a friend of her grandfather's.[4] Wuornos gave birth to boy at a home for unwed mothers on March 23, 1971, and the child was placed for adoption.[5] A few months after her baby was born, she dropped out of school[4] at about the time that her grandmother died of liver failure. When Wuornos was 15, her grandfather threw her out of the house, and she began supporting herself as a prostitute and living in the woods near her old home.[5]
Then in the year between 1989-1990, she shot and killed seven men.
quote:Three days later, on January 16, 1991, Wuornos confessed to the murders. She claimed the men had tried to rape her and she killed them in self-defense.[20][21]
On January 14, 1992, Wuornos went to trial for the murder of Richard Mallory; although previous convictions are normally inadmissible in criminal trials, under Florida's Williams Rule the prosecution was allowed to introduce evidence related to her other crimes to show a pattern of illegal activity.[1] On January 27, 1992, Wuornos was convicted of Mallory's murder with help from Moore's testimony. At her sentencing, psychiatrists for the defense testified that Wuornos was mentally unstable and had been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and antisocial personality disorder.[22] Four days later, she was sentenced to death.[21][23]
On March 31, 1992, Wuornos pleaded no contest to the murders of Dick Humphreys, Troy Burress, and David Spears, saying she wanted to "get right with God".[1] In her statement to the court, she said, in part: "I wanted to confess to you that Richard Mallory did violently rape me as I've told you; but these others did not. [They] only began to start to."[1] On May 15, 1992, Wuornos was given three more death sentences.[1]
In June 1992, Wuornos pleaded guilty to the murder of Charles Carskaddon; in November 1992, she received her fifth death sentence.[1] The defense made efforts during the trial to introduce evidence that Mallory had been tried for intent to commit rape in Maryland and that he had been committed to a maximum security correctional facility in Maryland that provided remediation to sexual offenders.[24] Records obtained from that institution reflected that, from 1958 to 1962, Mallory was committed for treatment and observation resulting from a criminal charge of assault with intent to rape and received an over-all eight years of treatment from the facility. In 1961, "it was observed of Mr. Mallory that he possessed strong sociopathic trends".[24] The judge refused to allow this to be admitted in court as evidence and denied Wuornos' request for a retrial.[21][24][25]
In February 1993, Wuornos pleaded guilty to the murder of Walter Jeno Antonio and was sentenced to death again. No charges were brought against her for the murder of Peter Siems, as his body was never found. In all, she received six death sentences.[1]
Wuornos told several inconsistent stories about the killings. She claimed initially that all seven men had raped her while she was working as a prostitute but later recanted the claim of self-defense, citing robbery and a desire to leave no witnesses as the reason for murder. During an interview with filmmaker Nick Broomfield, when she thought the cameras were off, she told him that it was, in fact, self-defense, but she could not stand being on death row—where she had been for 10 years at that point—and wanted to die.[26]
I mean, gently caress. She wasn't like all the thousands of serial killers who stalk, rape, and kill their victims just to get off, because what is the value of a woman's life when compared to their right to an orgasm? She herself had been treated like that since she a child, and continued to be treated like poo poo as a prostitute. Like that woman I quoted upthread, who said quote:The woman said that she had been preparing a long time for that split second where she saved her own life and possibly stopped a serial killer.
“I fought men my whole life,” she said. “I guess I had to be ready for that guy.”
Even if she was in fact lying about killing in self-defense, but had murdered her johns simply to rob them without leaving a witness, her story is still incredibly sad.
quote:Broomfield later speculated on Wuornos' motive and state of mind:
I think this anger developed inside her. And she was working as a prostitute. I think she had a lot of awful encounters on the roads. And I think this anger just spilled out from inside her. And finally exploded. Into incredible violence. That was her way of surviving. I think Aileen really believed that she had killed in self-defense. I think someone who's deeply psychotic can't really tell the difference between something that is life threatening and something that is a minor disagreement, that you could say something that she didn't agree with. She would get into a screaming black temper about it. And I think that's what had caused these things to happen. And at the same time, when she wasn't in those extreme moods, there was an incredible humanity to her.[40] Rabbit Hill has a new favorite as of 16:54 on Aug 5, 2015
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I work with government documents in an academic library and have spent this afternoon reading the blood-curdling tale of pure horror that is the Final Report of the Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments (1995). It's just page after page of heinous poo poo doctors and scientists have done to powerless people, believing themselves morally justified because of the supposed Value to Science of their experiments.
This is where I had to quit reading. The part in bold made me sick. quote:
Attitudes and Practices Prior to 1944
There was significant research interest in infants and children as early as the eighteenth century, as scientists began to experiment with vaccines and immunization. Children were particularly valuable subjects for this type of research because in general, they were less likely than adults to have been exposed to the disease being studied.[13] A child's response to immunizations was also of great interest because most immunizations are performed during childhood.
During the nineteenth century, the Industrial Revolution greatly increased the number of child laborers, and the public began to acknowledge the need for laws to protect children from abuse.[14] Physicians started to specialize in pediatrics, studying specifically the health problems and diseases that afflicted children. Simultaneously, as social reformers were creating a wide range of institutions for children, such as orphanages, schools, foundling homes, and hospitals, scientists recognized the value of research conducted in these types of institutions. In the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, Alfred F. Hess, the medical director of the Hebrew Infant Asylum in New York City, conducted pertussis vaccine trials and undertook extensive studies of the anatomy and physiology of digestion in infants at the asylum. According to Advisory Committee member and historian Susan Lederer, Hess sought to take advantage of the conditions in the asylum as they approximated those "conditions which are insisted on in considering the course of experimental infection among laboratory animals, but which can rarely be controlled in a study of infestation in man."[15]
Although many shared Hess's laudable goal of improving the health of asylum children, many people drew the line at the pediatrician's investigations of scurvy and rickets. In order to study the disease, Hess and his colleagues withheld orange juice from infants at the asylum until they developed lesions characteristic of scurvy. Responding to the public discussion of the ethics of using children in such nontherapeutic experiments, the editors of one American medical journal insisted that such investigations gave the children an opportunity to repay their debt to society, even as they conceded that experimentation on human beings should be limited to "children as may be utilized with parental consent."[16]
--https://archive.org/details/advisorycommitte00unit/page/324
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Fuuuuuuuuck that
*in regards to the “repay their debt to society” quote*
That's what did it for me, too. Imagine being that cold-blooded.
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IIRC, John Douglas (FBI profiler) said in one of his books that the estimate was 200 active serial killers in the US at the time of publication (in the 1990s).
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And don't forget my good friend, the Leaded Gasoline hypothesis.
I recently saw a theory in a scholarly journal article (IIRC!) that video games (especially playing online with others) have influenced the decrease in serial killing, because since the 1980s, they've been providing means of entertainment and social connection to young men who would otherwise lack those opportunities. Of course, I can't find the link to that now, but I follow the r/unresolvedmysteries subreddit and it was probably posted there.
There are also frequent posts on that sub that say the "serial killers never stop killing of their free own will" belief has now been debunked by law enforcement, for what it's worth.
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The case of the disappearance and death of David Glenn Lewis is fascinating and bizarre, and it occurred on Superbowl Sunday back in 1993, so I've been thinking about it this weekend. There is an excellent write-up of the case on Reddit, with some additional valuable information found in the comments (like this one), but here is the gist of it:
In 1993, David Glenn Lewis is an attorney living in Amarillo, TX, with his wife and daughter, and is by all accounts a healthy, happy, well-respected member of his community. Superbowl Sunday falls on January 31, and that weekend, David has stayed home to watch the game while his wife and daughter take a shopping trip to Dallas. His wife and daughter return home late on Sunday night, and to their surprise, David isn't there. They find:
- His SUV is gone
- His wedding ring and watch are sitting on the kitchen counter
- Two "freshly made" sandwiches (the kind David liked to eat) are in the refrigerator and there is laundry in the dryer
- The VCR (the kind that could not be pre-programmed to record but had to have "record" started manually) has recorded the Superbowl game at the start of the actual game (no pre-game stuff) but had kept on recording after the game was over
- No sign of a struggle, nothing else out of place
The sandwiches, laundry, and recorded Superbowl game would seem to indicate that David had been at home on Sunday, at least up to the point when the football game began.
The police begin an investigation and learn a few things:
- On Friday, Jan 28, David is seen rushing through the Amarillo airport, looking frantic and carrying no luggage
- On Sunday, Jan 31, David (or someone using his credit card) had purchased a plane ticket from Dallas to Amarillo -- note that this would be a return trip home from Dallas. There was no record of David having purchased a plane ticket to Dallas.
- On Monday, Feb 1, David (or someone using his credit card) had purchased a plane ticket from Los Angeles to Dallas -- again, this would be a leg of a return trip home, and there were no indications of David having purchased a plane ticket to LA.
- On Tuesday, Feb 2, David's SUV is found parked outside the Amarillo court house, and inside are his keys and his wallet with his driver's license and credit cards.
- David was involved in a lawsuit against him and his former law firm accusing them of conflict-of-interest wrongdoings, but basically, the nature of this lawsuit made it unlikely that this could be an MO for anyone to harm him or for him to want to disappear on his own accord
The case goes cold.
Then, 11 years later, in 2004, a retired policeman in Yakima County, Washington, decides to go through the list of unidentified bodies found in his jurisdiction and see if he can find any missing persons reports that would match up with them, using Google. And he does. And, long story short and confirming it with DNA, he is able to identify the body of a John Doe killed in a hit-and-run accident outside the tiny town of Moxee, WA, as David Glenn Lewis.
 BUT GET THIS
The date of that hit-and-run accident, the date that David Glenn Lewis was killed in Moxee, WA, was Monday, February 1, 1993. ONE DAY after he went missing from his home, 1600 miles away.
And that's not all. At the time of his death, he was wearing military fatigues, which is wife stated he did not own. 
His hit-and-run accident was witnessed (sort of) -- people driving down that road had seen him walking in the middle of the road, seeming disoriented, and then they saw another car heading toward them. When they turned around to warn the other car about the man, they saw the man lying in the road and the other car speeding off. This happened around 10:30 at night.
So:
- How David get from Amarillo, TX, to Moxee, WA, 1600 miles away, in one day, without there being any record of him having purchased a plane ticket or of boarding a plane to Washington?
- Why was he in Moxee, WA, anyway? (It's a small town of 3000 people, 7 miles outside of the city of Yakima, in south-central Washington State. David had no known connection to Moxee or Yakima or (IIRC) Washington state.)
- Why was he wearing clothes that were not his own?
- Why was he walking in the middle of the road, in the dark, seeming disoriented? (The medical examination after his death indicated no traces of alcohol or drugs in his system.)
- Why had he (or someone) bought plane tickets returning from LA to Amarillo? (Unfortunately, this being pre-9/11, there were no measures in place to trace if those plane tickets were ever used, or by whom.) Where does LA fit into all of this?
- What was he doing in the Amarillo airport two days (Friday) before he went missing?
- OR, if he did actually go missing on Friday and not Sunday, then who made his favorite sandwiches and pressed record on the Superbowl game in his house on Sunday?
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Feb 14, 2022 20:04
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- Rabbit Hill
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I've been listening to a great podcast called Dark Histories (no relation to Dark History with Bailey Sarian; this is written and hosted by an English guy named Ben Cutmore), and in Sept 2019 there was an episode on Graham Young, the "Teacup Poisoner".
That wikipedia article is pretty thorough (TL;DR -- Young became obsessed with poisons at a very young age and proceeded to poison his whole family, his school friends and classmates, his fellow patients at a mental hospital, his coworkers, and his fellow inmates after he was imprisoned, until he was found dead in his prison cell from an apparent heart attack), but it kind of glosses over how bizarrely compulsory his poisonings were. Like a compulsive liar or compulsive fire starter, everywhere the guy went, he was slipping poisons into people's food. Even his friends, even people he liked, even when it was against his best interest. When his coworkers at a chemical lab all started getting sick and a workplace safety inspection concluded that everyone just had a stomach bug, Young argued with the conclusion and insisted that everyone's symptoms were clearly signs of poisoning -- this is what led to him getting investigated, arrested, and then convicted for murder and attempted murder. And even after that, in prison, he kept on poisoning people right and left. It's like the guy genuinely just couldn't help himself.
What was so interesting about this story to me was that, like Young, I too was very interested in poisons as a kid. When I was around 10, my parents took me to a university library book sale and I bought a manual of toxicology published in the 1920s. It quickly became my new favorite book for the next few years -- I read it cover to cover many times over, worked on memorizing the fatal doses and the symptoms pre- and post- mortem of all the poisons listed, wrote short stories about people who were poisoned, etc. But all of this was because the book made me want to become a toxicologist, not a poisoner. I came from a dysfunctional family and was underparented and left unsupervised a lot -- a good breeding ground to turn me into someone like Young -- but it never occurred to me to use all this knowledge to harm anyone, and instead, all my fantasies involved helping people and solving crimes.
Young being a Bizarro-World Me has left me wondering about Nature vs. Nurture, and is it that there was something in me that protected me from becoming like Young, or did Young lack something in him that prevented him from becoming like me?
E: I guess the answer to that is, "Yeah -- a conscience." 
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What was the name of this book, I swear that I read the same one in pdf format and have lost to computer changes.
It's Alfred Brundage's A Manual of Toxicology -- however, my edition (1922?) has a section on the effects of gas warfare during WWI which the edition in the link (1920) lacks.
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