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a kitten posted:Oh I hope I didn't give the impression that I thought there is much more than an infinitesimal chance that any of the accused had anything to do with the murder. I just don't like speaking in absolutes. This whole sorry saga is a terrible indictment of the justice system in the US. Those boys are so clearly innocent that making them take Alford pleas rather than just exonerating them, and attempting to find the real killer(s), is beyond belief.
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Kimmalah posted:I'd imagine there's probably some that started off with "I wonder what would happen if...?" and "I bet/dare you..." too. People can be pretty dumb. they can http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510198/Antifreeze-prank-left-man-deaf-and-blind.html quote:A mechanic who left a workmate totally blind, deaf and crippled after spiking a bottle of Coca-Cola with antifreeze was jailed for 15 months yesterday.
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Dahmer had a guy's head in a box. His dad asked him to open the box, and Dahmer refused. His dad threatened to open it, thinking it was porn, but they fought and he never did. If I was the dad that would be the only thing I'd feel guilty about, because it could have stopped earlier had he opened that box, but even that's a stretch.
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willus posted:
There's a film of this on Netflix and it's a really good watch. I think it's on Netflix anyway.
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willus posted:i too make a deliberate decision to feel no sympathy for someone who was homosexual at time when such thoughts were aggressively suppressed, suffered from substance abuse issues and had little to nothing in the way of support networks the sympathy should subside when you find out that he killed some guys, cut them up, ate them, and hell, enjoyed it. edit: also had sex with their corpses, which is pretty bad as well
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Noose Induce posted:shut the gently caress up about serial killers holy christ This isn't scary or disturbing, you just posted it so you could shout at everyone, spoilsport. This one is actually pretty hosed up though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvia_Likens I don't remember seeing it in this thread although I'm sure it's been in one of them. quote:the most terrible crime ever committed in the state of Indiana It's probably one of the few things I know about that I really wish I didn't.
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Sarcopenia posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kelly_Anne_Bates i'm adding this to the list of poo poo i wish i didn't know about. What an absolute bastard of a man he was.
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Centripetal Horse posted:Because England. Also, because they were helping her when she desperately needed help? life-meaning-life sentences happen in the UK, but are very rare. That's a good thing. I do agree that the guy in that case probably deserved more than the sentence he received, but I can't argue it with only a wikipedia page to go on. I actually remember the case when it happened, but the country was only bothered about the James Bulger case at the time, so it got a very small amount of media coverage. I'd take our prison system (hell, justice system) over the american one, anyway.
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TheFallenEvincar posted:Christ, reading that New Yorker article on Willingham both terrifies and enrages me. I can't even bear finishing it to the end. Some of these people are loving animals and come off as criminal as the actually rightfully convicted murderers. I read that assuming that Willingham was freed, and the further I got, the more evidence that appeared that proved he was innocent, the more certain I was that he'd get out. I'm struggling to understand how that man was still executed, and how nobody has been sanctioned, imprisoned, or preferably executed for his death. Disgraceful.
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MrMidnight posted:Yeah, I'm curious in watching it after reading the wiki page. it's on vimeo, I'm about to watch it. Edit: ended up watching it on YouTube. it's a horrible story. The husband is a bit of a prick, so I had a hard time having any sympathy for him at all, especially after seeing the last part of the above post. He was desperate to convince everyone she wasn't drunk, even suggesting a tooth abscess gave her a stroke and made her drink vodka thinking it was water. Wtf. She was by most accounts a nice lady. She was driving drunk, with five kids in her car. There's no forgiving that, I don't care how nice she was before the rtc. stickyfngrdboy has a new favorite as of 22:20 on Nov 30, 2014 |
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outlier posted:Just got a link to the documentary: There's a possible reason given at the end of the film. She had dreadful toothache, and couldn't find painkillers so drank vodka to blot the pain. Which doesn't explain the thc.Of course, I'd expect a woman in that situation to get home, where she'd presumably have painkillers, but she apparently took a really strange route home, which is for me the only baffling thing
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I didn't think the documentary tried to argue anything, I think it just showed the husband arguing that case.
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There seems to be this thing in American justice that nobody seems to be able to admit to their mistakes. There's so many cases I've seen in which the convicted is /are clearly innocent of the crime they've been accused of, and like the west Memphis three, even if they're freed it's with the caveat that they're still guilty. I'm listening to that serial podcast someone kindly linked a few days ago, and, even though the case is new to me, it all sounds very familiar.
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Yeah I've always found it odd that such an important position in law is voted in. I also think the practice of encouraging an accused guy to grass leads to all sorts of problems. There was one in particular, which I can't find now, where an innocent guy grasses on five other guys for a murder none of them committed. I think he was a sailor but idk. I'll find it. Found it as soon as I remembered the sailor bit : https://www.norfolkfour.com stickyfngrdboy has a new favorite as of 16:25 on Dec 7, 2014 |
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nocal posted:The reason for the Alford plea is so that they are unable to sue the state. Yeah I understand the reasoning behind it, but that doesn't make it any better. It might even make it worse. We can't admit we were wrong because even though it cost this man, or these men, a whole poo poo load of their lives, it might cost us some money if we admit fault and say sorry. Incredible.
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Good News Everyone posted:I'm gonna go ahead and play devil's advocate here -- what if the West Memphis Three are guilty of the crime? They're not. Good News Everyone posted:-Jesse Misskelley Jr. confessed. There's a reason most normal countries don't use confessions, especially confessions which don't actually fit the evidence, as, well, evidence. Good News Everyone posted:-None of the three teens had alibis. Jesse was allegedly wrestling one town over, but this was never proven. Damien and Jason's whereabouts could not be accounted for. How many times a week do you think most people have no alibi? There has to be more than, well, they could have been there. No alibi, plus something else, something of evidential value, and that something else can't be a confession. Good News Everyone posted:-Witnesses reported two people heading away from the crime scene, down the highway, covered in mud. One matched Damien's description, and the other was said to be his girlfriend, but could have been Jason. Is this a real argument? Well we saw two people, both covered in mud, one of whom looked kinda like this guy, and the other looked like this guy or maybe this girl? Not sure but it looks bad for the accused with witnesses like this... Good News Everyone posted:-Damien had extensive mental health issues, which had lead him to be put under observation on more than one occasion. His own mother kicked him out of the house because she was worried for the safety of her family. When on the ward, he attacked another patient, scratching him, and spoke about blood giving him power. None of which has any relevance to the case. It's a case which worked for the prosecution because of emotion and fear. Somebody knows who killed those boys, and they'll get away with it because the police and prosecution built their case around their initial, and incorrect, beliefs, rather than the evidence they had.
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Good News Everyone posted:I can sense you feel pretty strongly about the case, and hey, I understand why. But yes, Damien's mental health did have relevance to the case, because the defense introduced his records as evidence. If you'd read the case and trial files, you'd know this. I meant the examples you used (what he said about blood, how his mother treated him) are irrelevant in proving his guilt. Nothing you posted, alone or together, are indicative of guilt, and all of it together read like a conspiracy theorists case file. The reason the films on the subject are so one sided is that there's only one logical way to approach the case, and the logical way isn't by mentioning poor eyewitness accounts, or that the lads had no alibi.
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Kugyou no Tenshi posted:Let me repeat to you one more time: I linked a transcript of Misskelley's "confession", annotated with the examples of police coercion, impossible acts, and impossible times. If you can't even be bothered to skim that, you're posting noise, not "content". I listened to the audio file on the page you linked, which made it even worse.
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It made me pretty angry, it's one thing to read it but to hear police officers coercing things out of that boy is incredible. I laughed out loud at the number of times he said 'and then i went home' and the cop said 'yeah but when you went back again what did you see?' and the kid makes more poo poo up. Mental.
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A Spider Covets posted:can we talk about scary ghost poo poo and murder mysteries and stuff some more. or maybe accidents involving caves, as i find caves unnerving and unpleasant This may have been posted in here before but I've been to the place this happened [url] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/what-lies-beneath-mossdale-caving-disaster-794268.html [/url]. It's a beautiful place. quote:For more than 20 years hardly anyone went near. Even its gauntlet epithet – the most strenuous cave known – attracted few contenders. Endless water-filled crawls with names like the Marathon, Kneewrecker and the descriptively painful Oomagoolie Passage made it, for most cavers, like a boxer so brutal that no sane person would take the fight.
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caveman thug poo poo posted:I also started listening to Serial and I'm on episode 8 of 10 so far. I've really enjoyed listening to it for the same reasons I enjoy reading this thread. If anyone knows of any similar podcasts of similar quality I'd love the recommendations. I've found one called Sword and Scale, which, while not quite the same as Serial, is definitely in the scary-fuckin-poo poo category. For me as a non-american there's cases I've never heard about before, such as the case of the Dozier school for boys (unbearable in parts), and an insight into psychopaths in which a child sex offender explains how and why he abused his stepdaughter. Very, very scary.
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nucleicmaxid posted:
Are you seriously comparing a sweet wrapper to a wrestling mat I have no dog in this fight and the case itself is barely interesting never mind scary or unnerving, but you can't roll a wrestling mat into a tube, with some large object in the centre of said tube, and have one end be significantly narrower than the other, and I'm struggling to understand why so few of you are grasping that.
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nucleicmaxid posted:I have seen it done before, so I don't know why you and one other person keep claiming that it can't happen? Well if you say you saw it, that's evidence enough for me lol. I'm not that fussed. That Leigh Leigh link is of the worst things I've seen in this thread or the other threads like this. Read with caution.
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nucleicmaxid posted:
I just want to point out that he specifically said it couldn't be done unless you twisted the ends, as your sweet wrapper proved, ironically.
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Im a butcher and I could easily clean and drain a body of blood, and then skin it, then cut it up into perfectly sized joints which are easy to cook or dispose of, but I don't like waste so I'd probably have to cook it. Maybe make ham with the thighs? Don't need to be a doctor to do any of that.
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I wrote the top review on Netflix for Southcliffe, while drunk.
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Ive just watched the pbs documentary of the Willingham case on Netflix, and if there's one thing that and the wm3 case have taught me, it's that people in charge will go out of their way to avoid admitting mistakes and apologising. The senator or DA or whoever it was at the end of the film told reporters (after firing the people who'd told him the guy was innocent) that Willingham was a bad man and that's what they should focus on. Because Willingham, just before being put to death for a crime that was never committed, told his wife he hoped she'd 'loving rot in hell'. For lying, so he'd get the death sentence, for a crime that was never committed. With the west Memphis three, i said in here before i doubt they'll ever find out who killed those boys.
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Mak0rz posted:Jesus the latest episode of Sword and Scale has audio from the Dnepropetrovsk maniacs "Three Guys One Hammer" video. That sound I was hearing wasn't some sort of angry, frightened animal, but a mutilated middle aged man struggling to use his last ounce of strength to breathe. I listened to that and they left that audio running far too long. I unsubscribed. In fact, I'd already emailed them about an earliest episode which started, with no warning, with a guy explaining in great detail how he sexually abused his stepson. I'll never forget that piece of audio til I die. stickyfngrdboy has a new favorite as of 22:46 on Jan 9, 2015 |
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Ghost Cow Goes Boo posted:The endless stereotyping of killers as weird-looking un-people is how people die. Its scary how many people wind up dead because they still accept lifts from strangers even when they know a serial killer is operating nearby. "Oh he's still got all his teeth and his eyes are level, he couldn't possibly be the killer" then bam, Ted Bundy. The episode which featured the army wife who killed her kids? I don't know the number. She was very obviously severely mentally ill. The host kept telling me she was evil, but I didn't get evil. She was ill. What she did was horrific, she shot both her kids in the head. She was ill. The host guy comes out with lots of faux psychology that he pulls out of his arse, when even the husband's first reaction on returning home was asking how his wife was. She just killed his kids and he wanted to know if she was ok. Thinking about it now I have no idea why I listened to so many loving episodes.
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citybeatnik posted:We mine the poo poo out of the moon for that sweet, sweet helium that we'd be using for fusion reactors, among other things. They're already doing this I watched a documentary film about it on Netflix, it's called aliens on the moon if you want to check.
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DandyLion posted:God dammit, Aliens aren't real. See I thought that as well but it turns out there's loads of evidence that the moon is populated. We've been lied to for decades. http://i.imgur.com/SVjFkdJm.png See?
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Well I'd never even heard of Tuskegee until today. Unbelievable. That story of the dead girl is very sad, but this Tuskegee thing has blown my tiny mind, for any number of reasons.
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Under the vegetable posted:America has probably the most frightening and hostile medical system in the western world. If you're not a rich white you're pretty much encouraged to die or buy pain pills until you're addicted. This works for the judicial system too, I think.
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There is a documentary on Netflix called Nova: Who Killed Lindbergh's Baby. It seems pretty obvious who did it.
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PresidentBeard posted:I don't think it has ever been safe or normal to do that. It has, and it still happens. There are those who still leave their kids unattended in hotel rooms, and in almost all cases nothing bad happens. People in general never used to be so terrified of stuff, but maybe more bad stuff is happening, I don't know. Doubt it, though. Over here lots of folk hated Madeleine McCann's mum because she came across as cold in interviews. She did seem distant, I think, but hardly surprising considering the circumstances. I don't think for one second she deserved any of the vitriol she received. There was a BBC Panorama (I think) which had the theme music from Twin Peaks over footage of Madeleine's dad walking about the resort. I have no idea if that was intentional but it was pretty funny.
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canyoneer posted:Well, Alfred Nobel's endowment and prize really did a great switcheroo on his legacy. To be fair he's far more famous (now) for having the Nobel prize named after him than he is any of his other fine achievements.
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I just posted in a Netflix thread and the film I mentioned might be of interest to you lot with your aviation disasters. It's called Charlie Victor Romeo. If you like planes crashing you're fuckin weird, and you'll enjoy it, but this is a film you'll enjoy even if you are normal and hate plane crashes. I say 'enjoy', but that's probably the wrong term. I mean you definitely won't enjoy the experience unless you really are weird but you'll find it hard to take your eyes off it because it's really well done.
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:The Daily Mail may be wrong on a lot of things, but they are right on this. Why the gently caress did the airline company allow someone with a mental illness in the cockpit? Apparently he hid his illness from his employers. Torn up sicknotes were found in his house, but the hospital which says he was treated there have denied he was treated for depression.
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ReidRansom posted:Dunno how it works in Europe, but here he could have been grounded medically with no say in the matter. Don't imagine they wouldn't be able to do the same there though. Maybe his doc didn't think it was that serious? How could his employers ground him if they didn't know he was ill?
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ReidRansom posted:The doctor does it, reports it to the airline/aviation authorities or whatever. Makes sense, yeah. No idea if that system is in place here but it definitely should be.
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