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embiid | 41 | 32.28% | |
wiggins | 86 | 67.72% | |
Total: | 127 votes |
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Looks like Embiid made the right choice jumping to the NBA. Cleveland you are running out of excuses for your record.
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# ¿ May 21, 2014 01:47 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 23:57 |
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Best case for the Magic would have been Wiggins.
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# ¿ May 21, 2014 01:59 |
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MourningView posted:Randle to David Lee is a solid cross-race comparison, so props to them for that. Lee, David 6'7¾" 6'9" 229½ 7'0" 8'10½" Whoa. It's eerie.
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# ¿ May 21, 2014 03:38 |
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Smart's game is going to work well in the NBA in my opinion. This isn't a flop joke, he can dominate at times, even when his shot isn't falling.
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# ¿ May 21, 2014 16:15 |
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^^^ Aaron Gordon vs. Blake Griffin in Staples Center is too perfect for words. Spacebump posted:If I had the number 1 pick and this was going on, there is no way I'd draft him. The injury isn't a problem. It's a common injury and one I've had personally. His knee is nothing, it was a hyper-extension that just looked bad. The legit worry is that his back becomes a chronic injury but that's just as big a guess as anything. He's never hurt his back before so anyone saying it is chronic now doesn't understand the word. For what it's worth my back injury stopped recurring the second I started wearing a back brace and I bet he will start too, for prevention's sake. Of course I'm 5'11 so I don't think my story is much use determining what will happen with a 7 footer so I'll stop talking about it now.
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# ¿ May 21, 2014 17:36 |
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And you are, shockingly, pessimistic about them. I'm just trying to be clear here in that nobody knows. I keep seeing Greg Oden comparisons and those are just silly.
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# ¿ May 21, 2014 17:40 |
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I thought there were reports already coming out about his glass bones and asymmetrical legs but I didn't pay enough attention at the time admittedly. edit: I'm a big Embiid/KU fanboy but I would happily admit that not allowing a medical evaluation before the draft would be a huge red flag. I'd like to think that will change at some point before the draft. Maybe he's just not ready yet. Or maybe it's a legit problem.
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# ¿ May 21, 2014 17:43 |
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Blake is far and away a better player but Gordon can soar too. He's a highlight reel on a losing night waiting to happen.
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# ¿ May 21, 2014 18:21 |
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MourningView posted:Parker can get up in the air pretty well, but his lateral quickness leaves a lot to be desired. I've heard this as well and also that it's the culprit in his less than stellar defense, as opposed to say like, heart/grit/want to.
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# ¿ May 22, 2014 17:25 |
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Totally premature. He has a good shooting motion, he can hit threes but it's absolutely still in the experimental phase. What he does great right now is his footwork and post moves and uses both hands, which is totally weird because those are things you usually learn last, not first. He's just a weird natural when it comes to creating on the post. Here is a video, look for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-dtrmh0nM
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# ¿ May 22, 2014 18:17 |
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Yeah I love Wiggins but if you told me Embiid would never have a significant injury again he's the pick. His defense is great, his offense is great, he's a competitor with a chip and he's got potential to be amazing. He's ambidextrous, he's light on his feet and he has the frame to grow. UK fans have ripped on KU fans for mentioning the word "Olajuwon" endlessly but the similarities really are glaring. His back is the only question mark. He even hits his free throws.
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# ¿ May 23, 2014 00:37 |
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MourningView posted:College basketball is a clearly inferior product but still a lot of fun. Excuse the derail MV but have you seen this gem yet? College basketball is fun because of rivalries. Enjoy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsRp597s-2U
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# ¿ May 23, 2014 01:06 |
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Spacebump posted:His dad is apparently too controlling and doesn't want him to come to the NBA yet. So the other knock on him is when he turns into Todd Marinovich.
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# ¿ May 23, 2014 22:39 |
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Embiid looks pretty healthy. Can't pass on this guy. http://youtu.be/Gp7PX7hYUFQ
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# ¿ May 24, 2014 17:45 |
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BIZORT posted:Parker's workout video was a lot more impressive than Embiid's. Parker's jumper looks fantastic, too. Is he primarily a perimeter guy? The problem is that the workout video doesn't show defense which is Parker's weakness. He's an offensive machine.
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# ¿ May 26, 2014 17:57 |
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Did someone say he'd "literally be Olajuwon?" I don't remember reading that. He just moves like him and there are similarities. There are plenty of differences, Hakeem improved dramatically between his freshman and sophomore year and Embiid hasn't gotten there yet. Hakeem was 6'9 and beastly strong so they don't even directly compare physically. Instead of people who never watched Embiid conjuring up opinions out of reading box scores why not let professional scouts who know what they're talking about sway your opinion? I mean if you're going to ignore the mountain of evidence right in front of your face countering your arguments you might as well ignore the pros too.quote:Scout 1: If healthy, I’m taking him no. 1 and it’s not even close.
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# ¿ May 27, 2014 16:13 |
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Another thing needs to be said here, those saying that Embiid going number one over Wiggins is crazy are ignoring Wiggins' problems. This scout sums it up better than me...quote:Scout 3: In general, interesting kid. In fairness to him he played in a very restricted system at Kansas. All interchangeable parts with designated spots, a lot of structure. When he got the ball, there wasn’t a lot of room to create. He didn’t force things, dealt with it well, but sometimes it hurt his rep. Not anywhere near ready, mentally, to take things over, which is unfair to say at this stage. Game isn’t to the level of his athleticism. Humble, coachable, a positive kid, all good things. edit: this scout saying Wiggins should ignore shooting threes is being idiotic btw so take this opinion with a grain of salt. He just has work to do.
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# ¿ May 27, 2014 17:49 |
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Smart is fried rice covered in sriracha. Hmmm. I might get chinese for lunch.
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# ¿ May 27, 2014 19:16 |
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Philly has the easiest draft this year. Take who is left, compliment that person with the 10th pick.
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# ¿ May 27, 2014 19:29 |
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If you're choosing between two guards that are probably better served being a 2 with a lightening-quick first step and crazy ability to get to the rim but suspect shooting I suppose taking the one who is 6-6 is probably better than the one who is 6-4.
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# ¿ May 27, 2014 19:45 |
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Declan MacManus posted:For at least the first year their offense would be the ugliest thing in the world. Who's taking shots from the outside on that team? Wiggins will, you just have to be cool with him hitting only 35% of them.
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# ¿ May 27, 2014 22:15 |
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Well that's what he shot in college anyway.
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# ¿ May 27, 2014 22:25 |
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Lockback posted:They moving the line back in? This is how Wiggins shoots threes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i95iv9audN0
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# ¿ May 27, 2014 22:56 |
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Declan MacManus posted:Jahlil Okafor is okay I think both Mudiay and Towns will get drafted over him. This prediction is predicated on Towns beating out both Willie Caulie-Stein and Dakari Johnson (and Marcus Lee) for minutes at Kentucky. I think my point is Okafor is a center through and through and he's 6'10 tops.
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# ¿ May 27, 2014 23:50 |
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MourningView posted:6'10" is fine for a center though? Dwight is shorter than that. Okafor is the most polished of the three by a mile. I hear you, it's just that I'm not sure Okafor has the ceiling others do. I'm only basing this on what I've seen so far which is just high school ball, mostly because I was watching Cliff. Towns is a legit 7 footer who can drain 3s, I could see him moving up boards. Mudiay is just awesome too. I guess I'm just not as big on Okafor being the overall number one pick since most of what he does is dunk over high school kids. I'll be watching Duke for sure though so we'll all see. Also why did Towns go to Kentucky? I just don't get it. A really talented big is going to ride the bench for Kentucky this year. I don't know if it is Towns, Dakari, WCS or Marcus Lee.
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# ¿ May 28, 2014 01:01 |
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I know some Sixer fans that are furiously publicly masturbating right now, which would be an anomaly in most cities not named Philadelphia.
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# ¿ May 28, 2014 01:38 |
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I just realized that if it goes 1. Embiid 2. Parker 3. Wiggins that it is eerily similar to 1984 with 1. Olajuwon 2. Bowie 3. Jordan. I don't think Parker will fail like Bowie and Parker isn't 7'1 but you have to admit there are some similarities.
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# ¿ May 28, 2014 02:04 |
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Any Kings fans want to tell me what's wrong with McLemore? Is there hope for him becoming more of a consistent scorer?
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# ¿ May 28, 2014 17:52 |
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Rick posted:McLemore kind of reminds me of early Ced Ceballos before he broke out. Whoa he attempted 9 three pointers in 93-94 and missed all of them, got traded to the Lakers and the next year he attempted 146 and made .397 of them. Man there's a crazy story there.
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# ¿ May 28, 2014 18:34 |
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His life story is like 8 mile.
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# ¿ May 28, 2014 20:47 |
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Oh that's good, he's projected around 12 but go ahead and say idiotic poo poo and drop yourself to 17 and immediately cost yourself about 1.5m from the get-go.
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# ¿ May 29, 2014 17:16 |
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What a perfect pick for Minnesota.
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# ¿ May 29, 2014 17:24 |
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The silver lining here is how many ~Daario~ jokes we'll be saved from reading.
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# ¿ May 29, 2014 17:35 |
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Man Wiggins to the Sixers would be unbelievable.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2014 22:15 |
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I think the Kings and Smart is a great fit.
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2014 17:54 |
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So is Stauskas like the only one in this draft that can shoot? Yes I know Hood and Wilcox can shoot
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2014 00:47 |
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I hope the Kings don't draft McDermott. He's done-for if they do.
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2014 00:51 |
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xbilkis posted:I think Marcus Smart is probably the closest to that so far this year. I would never call a dude who is that much of a...just a warrior a potential bust. His shot is not great but if people haven't watched him play it's difficult to describe just how hard he gets after it. I know MV is down on him but I'd be really shocked if someone like him busted. He's a beast and at worst brings incredible energy off the bench.
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2014 17:45 |
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Sherron Collins is 5'10 and a half tops with a huge giant Taco Bell problem. Smart is 6'4 or just under. That's really not a good comparison. You really think he'll suck? C'mon. When I say warrior I'm not using that hyperbole lightly like a superfan or something. He gets after it and that is a real thing not an imaginary homer thing to say, especially considering I hate his loving guts. quote:Smart makes a living inside the paint, as he relishes contact and gets to the free throw line nearly ten times per-40 minutes, while finishing 57% of his shots around the basket in the half-court. The role he will play in the NBA appears to be well defined, as he's very good in transition and on the pick and roll, and is more than capable of creating shots for himself and others, something he appears to have improved on in his sophomore year. Smart's assist to turnover and pure point ratio both increased notably this past season, particularly his ability to avoid coughing the ball up, as his turnover percentage decreased from an alarming 19% as a freshman to a much more manageable 14%.
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2014 18:29 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 23:57 |
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I mean I guess we'll see. I don't mean to join his camp and go gung ho for Smart or anything but OSU's implosion had a lot more going on than just Smart's issues.
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2014 19:09 |