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Garrand posted:Everytime I see this thread, I get this song stuck in my head He'd jerk to a pony rear end or two, that's what Brian Boyko'd do!
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Mister Fister posted:I don't know who's more cynical, the people who post in this thread or the overwhelming majority of goons in the Community thread who bet their lives that a meteor was more likely to hit the earth in the next hour than the show coming back, but in any case, i hope SOMETHING positive comes out of this superpac. What that something is, I dunno, but I don't think it's healthy to be so negative. I hate to break it to you but nothing good will come of it, and hoping that a pile of poo poo won't end up smelling like poo poo is way more unhealthy than acknowledging reality.
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Jul 7, 2014 19:31
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Mister Fister posted:I mean, if they could upset a couple of incumbents, i think that's a win in my book. If that tea party guy could upset Eric Cantor with almost no resources, i don't see why Lessig et al couldn't do something similar. Upset them with who? You can't elect people who want money out of politics by pumping more money in politics. That's like trying to douse a fire with kerosene.
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Jul 7, 2014 19:34
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Mister Fister posted:Well i don't know the particulars of everyone who donated, but i was under the impression that the big donators were guys like Woz, and he seems like a pretty good guy, but in any case, is there any evidence that the SuperPac is going to pressure the candidates to do special favors for plutocrats? The actual big money in this country can simply buy out any MayOne candidate with a trivial amount of money. Not that any will win, because five million dollars is absolutely nothing. It's a matchstick in forest fire.
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As a reminder this poster unironically cited OWS as a representative organization for liberal causes, despite not existing in a meaningful capacity for nearly three years.
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Jul 8, 2014 02:50
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Mister Fister posted:That's actually kinda my point. You... you do realize that there are other liberal organizations besides OWS, right?
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Jul 8, 2014 03:08
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Mister Fister posted:Are they filling up the streets and getting elected to congress and making democrats poo poo their pants? Those aren't necessarily good things, and as the Tea Party has shown, can be actively harmful things. -EDIT- You seem to think that radicalism and extremism are the best avenues towards positive change, and you're frustrated that political change is too slow. That's understandable to a point, but it's also incredibly naive. The Tea Party that you admire so much has been one of the most destructive political forces we've seen since McCarthyism. We absolutely do not want the leftist version. Who What Now fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Jul 8, 2014 |
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Jul 8, 2014 03:28
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OwlBot 2000 posted:It's only harmful because it moves things farther right. Well, it's harmful because they are willing to burn America to the ground and piss on the ashes. A leftist organization that would be willing to shut down the government to get whatever little thing they want would be just as harmful.
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Jul 8, 2014 03:36
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Miltank posted:I think a leftist faction with the will and means to deeply upset the world economy would be very cool. Well that's because you're an idiot. HTH Mister Fister posted:Well, i'm not sure a radical left version of the Tea Party would shut down government and just mirror whatever the tea party did (but a leftwing version of it), that's just speculation. And i don't 'admire' the tea party, except their ability to get elected and pissing off the biggest plutocrats. Mainstream Republicans just do whatever the opposite Democrats do just because, while Tea Partiers do what they do in the name of their ideology. I think that's an important distinction; i've listened to some of the tea partier rhetoric and many think corporate welfare/american adventures into countries where they don't belong, etc. is bullshit. I'd like to see what happens if the 'radical' leftists actually voted with some of the tea partiers on those common ground issues and we got some change. What Tea Partiers have you been listening to, because they certainly weren't in any meaningful positions of power. And they certainly wouldn't work on a leftist mirror-version of themselves because not working with the opposition is one of their key planks. Mister Fister posted:But if you want positive change some other way, what do you suggest? Educating voters, making them less susceptible to the kind of ads that campaign financing focuses on.
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Jul 8, 2014 04:06
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Cerebral Bore posted:Just so I know for future reference, this is the part where you start scaremongering about leftist "radicals" without even bothering to examine what the left actually stands for in order to feel better about the fact that you're supporting a rightwing party owned by corporate interests, right? What? How did you get any of that out of my post? I'm a socialist, I'm just critical of the Tea Party's methods and pointing out that slapping a leftist veneer over the Tea Party would be a bad thing.
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Miltank posted:A Socialist veneer over the Tea Party; An extremely influential and ideologically consistent political force who are shifting the political spectrum left while playing chicken with a global system that they wish to ultimately dismantle. lol if you think the Tea Party is ideologically consistent on anything other than "gently caress anyone who isn't Tea Party". Hodgepodge posted:This is an extremely good point. Holy poo poo, since when is not wanting to plunge every country on earth into a Mad Maxx style post-apocalypse seen as "wishy-washy"? Political change takes time, learn some goddamn patience you babies. Who What Now fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Jul 9, 2014 |
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