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rscott
Dec 10, 2009
Hi Democrats, please stop co-opting socialist holidays like May Day, you guys have your own stupid milquetoast labor day to pretend like you didn't gently caress over the working class in this country. This poo poo has next to nothing to do with labor anyways, the Democrats outspent the Republicans in 2008 and 2012. The parties aren't terribly different economically, if you actually widen your discourse even slightly further than the gun slit narrow Overton window currently perpetuated by the media.

e: The more I think about this and the more I read about it the madder I'm getting. poo poo, if you had spent more time on actually educating yourself about what the gently caress is actually wrong with this country and why your little PAC spending $10million to elect some Democrats is like trying to empty the ocean with a tablespoon than on your snazzy flash transitions, you would have realized why this thread is going to go over pretty horribly in this forum. To do what you guys want to do, you're going to need at least 100 times as much money to create your own political party from the ground up. There is no way either a Democrat or Republican lead government is going to pass significant enough amount of campaign finance reform to actually matter, because with recent court rulings it might take a constitutional amendment to enact. And it isn't going to happen in 2 years, more like 15-20 if you're incredibly good at what you are doing.

Christ. This is what comes out of Harvard? How loving sheltered are you guys if you're this naive?

rscott fucked around with this message at 08:48 on May 15, 2014

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rscott
Dec 10, 2009

brianboyko posted:

Okay, rough landing.

1) Most billionaires who participate in this crony capitalist system are more interested in preserving their own industry's monopoly than in preserving the actual system of corruption. Sheldon Adelson could outspend, if he wanted to, twice as much as we will in 2014 simply to defeat the candidates we like. But he's not going to because, quite frankly, he's not interested in defeating campaign finance reform, he just wants favors for his casinos. So he'll spend his millions on killing online poker, while we strike at the root of the problem.

2) I didn't come up with the name "Mayday." And it's "mayday" as in the ship is sinking, not the socialist one. And honestly, if I was in the room when names were being considered, I'd have raised hell.

> (politicians didnt go to the same schools as you, they dont operate in the same social circles, they didnt have the same kinds of career.

3) Well, for one, we're being led by a professor of law at Harvard. But you're right. It's not like President Obama is a law professor... oh, wait. He is. Well, he's not a law professor at Harvard. He was a law professor at the University of Chicago. He only got his *law degree* at Harvard. Completely different worlds there.

Me, I got my undergrad from Rutgers (a public university) and my M.A. from University of Texas (another public university) so... yeah.

4) I could be wrong. I could totally and utterly be wrong. But the way I see it, this may be the last big gasp of trying to work within the system we have to fix it before I start investing in companies that make canned goods and shotguns. I get the cynicism. But even if it's futile, I'm still going to try anyway.

And I guarantee you that if everyone who sneered sarcastically at me and said "yeah, buddy, good luck with that," when I talked about getting money out of politics actually got off their rear end and did something about it, this would be a problem solved quickly.

5) Maybe to fix *everything* we need a constitutional amendment. But we could pass statutory reforms now that would allow politicians to break the fundraising corruption cycle and opt-into a system where they raise funds from the people. They tried it on the state level in Connecticut, and 78% of politicians opted in.

I'm not saying I have THE solution. I'm saying that I'm trying A solution.

And if you can't see how trying A solution is better than trying NO solution, then whatever man, don't come crying to me.

You can take your smug liberal superiority and shove it dude. I'm trying to organize a union in a right to work/at-will employment state. I understand the possibility of failure and would be far less insulated it from it than your pasty white rear end. So don't sneer at me while you blithely go about this harebrained scheme when it's patently obvious that you have no idea how large the scope of the problem you are trying to solve is. You have no idea how much institutional inertia there is in favor of private campaign finance. Any law that would meaningfully restrict the ability to of private donors to donate to campaigns would be challenged and deemed unconstitutional after the Citizen's United decision. The trend so far in the Roberts court is to allow MORE money in elections, not less.

OK so let's pretend that we live in la la fantasy land and that isn't actually case, and that somehow a democratic majority in both house and the executive would pass some sort of meaningful reform law. There is no loving way you are going to get that majority in 2016. Like, it's objectively impossible. Republicans have redrawn congressional districts in states where they control state legislatures and ensured themselves a majority in the House until demographic changes overcome their gerrymandering. This is why in 2012, despite more votes being cast for democratic candidates in the House elections, there is a fairly significant majority for Republicans in that chamber. One can hope to speed along these demographic changes by increasing the voting percentage in under represented demographics which tend to lean democratic, but overcoming the long term game the right is playing is not something that is going to be overcome with mere $10s of millions of dollars and one electoral cycle.

Let's pretend that none of the efforts of the lobbyists and every ancillary industry that relies on the vast sums of money spent on elections and campaigns wouldn't leverage their power to prevent a meaningful law from being enacted. Then what? What is your actual plan besides, "take money out of politics!!!"? poo poo is empty nonsense. You aren't doomed to failure because nothing will work, you're doomed to failure because you're a loving moron.

e: ahahahahaha oh man this thread is going places :stare:

rscott fucked around with this message at 13:46 on May 15, 2014

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
what would brony boytano do?

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
A 35 year old brony, jesus loving christ are you kidding me?

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
Well I gotta give him credit, he turned being an autistic sperg brony posting on the internet all day into a job somehow.

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
So did the $20 to buy an account and get platinum come from some poor sap's donation or does that come out of the expense fund that you're getting some rich idiot to bankroll?

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
has anyone gone to their irc channel on Freenode yet?

rscott
Dec 10, 2009

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

the aboutus is the best, theyre all terrible tech people and a Bush Republican

https://mayone.us/about-us/

on the board: the founder of flash game website Kongregate


quote:

He has a tattoo on his right arm of the number “40” in remembrance of the NFL football player and US soldier Pat Tillman who was killed by friendly fire in Afghanistan.[9]

lmao

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
Jesus Christ his voice is annoying as gently caress too. OP do you have ANY redeeming qualities at all?

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
I went through the same thing when I found out my brother was a brony as well.

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
Is the leading candidate in the Democratic primary for Senator still a Larouchian?

rscott
Dec 10, 2009

XyloJW posted:

The guy who created MayOne.us is a Harvard professor, the OP is just someone who likes MayOne

He's listed on their Website as their Deputy CTO, whatever the gently caress that means.

rscott
Dec 10, 2009

zoux posted:

Deputy Chief Technical Officer.

yeah I know what CTO means, I don't know how it's applicable to what he's doing

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
He's like shrek, he's got layers


Also he is fat

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
Does the dude seriously loving sign every single one of his posts with his real name

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
A loving weird dude who uses his real name for everything, which makes him dumb as hell

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
Well I would definitely say that there is a bit of squeamishness in the character of the average liberal, which is kind of understandable in this tyool 2014, since we live in what is undeniably a liberal society. When you don't see anything fundamentally wrong with the status quo of course you aren't going to advocate for anything that is going to rock the boat too hard. How do you turn liberals into leftists is the actual task IMO

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rscott
Dec 10, 2009
And if votes were the only thing that mattered that would be a relevant and worthwhile statement.

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