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Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Sheng-ji Yang posted:

also he was on the board of Americans Elect. this guy knows how to loving scam /r/politics out of millions

lol I had forgotten about that. I think Thomas Friedman was literally the only person in the country who took it seriously.


Ah racist anecdotes/jokes, a valuable asset to every politically minded liberal!

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Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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MODS CURE JOKES posted:

This gently caress went to Harvard? I refuse to believe this. I refuse, if only because to hold thoughts otherwise would lead to my untimely death via "exploding eyes syndrome".

Dork money is the same color as WASP money.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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quote:

We thought we were the free market people!

lol

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Lawrence Lessig is like the pied piper for gullible liberals who put action ahead of thought.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

So here in Illinois, there's a rule where you have to have a certain amount of signatures to show up on the ballot, but no one checks to see if you actually have enough signatures unless they're challenged(or something similar to that, I don't remember the exact details). There was basically a gentleman's agreement that it's a stupid and outdated rule and that you don't challenge anyone unless it's clearly a joke(ie Mickey Mouse or Ben Dover) or malicious(like 10 misspellings of a candidates name to confuse voters). Even the Democrats and Republicans respected it. Then on the last possible day for the 2012 elections, the Greens challenged every other third party's presidential candidates and got them pulled, even though most of them ended up getting decent vote totals even with just write-in access. It gave the Greens no real advantage because they weren't going to win any electoral votes anyways and pissed off every other third party, but they did it anyways. I have a feeling if we do change, it'll take a long time for all the old grudges to die down.

Third parties are pretty funny once you dig past the Greens and Libertarians. We've got Communist, Socialist, Democratic Socialist, Freedom Socialist, Socialist Equality, Socialist Action, Socialist Labor, Worker's Socialist, and Worker's World Parties. Because leftists have zero concept of compromise or unity.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Discendo Vox posted:

Most folks do care, you're just an rear end in a top hat.

In some ways, you're both right.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Occupy (a nice office in) K Street

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Oh poo poo, I forgot that Lawrence Lessig was a big backer of Americans Elect, the "election reform" scheme that was so obviously a dumb scam that only Thomas Friedman took it seriously.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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SedanChair posted:

How did I miss that the other founder of MayDay PAC is "Americans Elect" "centrist" Republican filth Mark McKinnon? Filth.

McKinnon, Abramoff; did Sulu know about any of this? Is this MoneyKony?

All we need now is to have Peter Ackerman in there too.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Mister Fister posted:

I don't know who's more cynical, the people who post in this thread or the overwhelming majority of goons in the Community thread who bet their lives that a meteor was more likely to hit the earth in the next hour than the show coming back (it came back :smug:), but in any case, i hope SOMETHING positive comes out of this superpac. What that something is, I dunno, but I don't think it's healthy to be so negative.

It's not "negative" to use similar events from the past to predict future results:
http://www.cjr.org/united_states_project/americans_elect_predictable_failure.php
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/03/1311427/-Lawrence-Lessig-s-Trust-Me-I-Know-What-I-m-Doing-SuperPAC

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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ThirdPartyView posted:

Shouldn't the thread be goldmined at this point? I think we've gone through whatever entertainment value is going to be derived...

The PAC hasn't imploded or faded into hilarious obscurity like Americans Elect or Unity08 yet so it's got legs for some time.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Anorexic Sea Turtle posted:

Anyone got the math on how impossible it is to out spend the rich? I remember it being next level insanity.



Also, the richer you are the larger percent of your income you can afford to toss at politics instead of refrigerators.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Bluemillion posted:

Where is this chart from?

UCSC.


Taerkar posted:

My vote can affect 2 senators and 1 representative.

A rich person's vote can affect the same thing.

HOWEVER, the rich person's money can affect 435 representatives and 100 senators, and a lot more than that in many cases.

And, you know, there was that study showing what we already knew which is our votes don't actually make any difference in policy.

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Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Little Blackfly posted:

Honestly a tea party on the left that held government hostage in some way would be interesting to see. I don't know whether default would ever get floated again, but half the reason to fear it under the tea party was that if poo poo hit the fan, it's not like they would have been willing to bring in relief measures for the poor. If it was "nationalize the energy industry, or we'll force you to anyway", well maybe that would work better.

A "tea party of the left" is impossible because the tea party of the right wanted to make the government stop working but the left wants the government to do more things. In our system it's a lot easier to stop the government from working than it is to make the government do more things.

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