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I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

UBISoft obviously has a lot of faith in this game; the review embargo is being lifted on Thursday.

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Eponymous
Feb 4, 2008

Maybe I just want to be happy, huh?! Maybe I want my life to not be a trainwreck for five GOD DAMN minutes?!

I said come in! posted:

UBISoft obviously has a lot of faith in this game; the review embargo is being lifted on Thursday.

Wow, what is it about the state of the game industry that this is one of the most impressive things I've heard about this game?

Rookersh
Aug 19, 2010
So the 3 DLCs mentioned in the Season Pass are likely just the 3 DLCs you get for the Deluxe Edition on PC right? ( Breakthrough, Signature Shot, and the Palace ).

WindmillSlayer
Oct 16, 2013

I said come in! posted:

UBISoft obviously has a lot of faith in this game; the review embargo is being lifted on Thursday.

Is this good or bad? I'm not up to my games journalism in jokes.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

WindmillSlayer posted:

Is this good or bad? I'm not up to my games journalism in jokes.

It's a whole weekend before its release which is kind of unusual these days.

Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.

WindmillSlayer posted:

Is this good or bad? I'm not up to my games journalism in jokes.

If a publisher thinks a game isn't going to review well, they'll often push back the review embargo to like the day before release, in order to avoid bad word of mouth and cancelled preorders. The fact that the embargo lifts so early would seem to indicate that Ubisoft isn't worried at all about what reviewers are going to have to say about the game, which is a good sign.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


WindmillSlayer posted:

Is this good or bad? I'm not up to my games journalism in jokes.

Triple A devs very rarely drop embargoes until the day of or the day before on big name titles especially new IPs. Them lifting in on Thursday means they aren't particularly concerned with it getting bad reviews to effect the sale of it.

So it should be good news.

Rookersh
Aug 19, 2010

WindmillSlayer posted:

Is this good or bad? I'm not up to my games journalism in jokes.

Traditionally games try to lift embargoes as close to release as they can. Most people are idiots and preorder, or buy a few days before so they have no way of backing down once the bad reviews show up. It also keeps the hype/marketing in peoples minds up to the last minute, so they'll be encouraged to pick it up before the release date/review to get the preorder goodies.

Letting people put up reviews a full 5 days ahead gives people plenty of time to see what they are buying, and make an informed opinion. If Ubisoft didn't have faith in the product, they wouldn't be giving customers 5 days to think about whether or not they should buy the game. It's basically Ubisoft saying they think they have a winner here, and don't need to screw with customers for sales.

WindmillSlayer
Oct 16, 2013

:yayclod: awesome. Are we gonna get to pre-download it on steam so we don't have to deal with server slowness on release?

Frank Horrigan
Jul 31, 2013

by Ralp
Holding the embargo closer to release also means that reviewers have less time to pound out an article, so they're less likely to see if/how the game falls apart after a certain point.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

WindmillSlayer posted:

:yayclod: awesome. Are we gonna get to pre-download it on steam so we don't have to deal with server slowness on release?

I'm wondering this too but for PlayStation 4.

Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.

I said come in! posted:

I'm wondering this too but for PlayStation 4.

I thought a big to-do about the most recent patch was that it would enable pre-loads for stuff, so I'm pretty sure it will.

Frank Horrigan
Jul 31, 2013

by Ralp
pre-ordering videogames :rolleyes:

WindmillSlayer
Oct 16, 2013

Azurrat posted:

pre-ordering videogames :rolleyes:

It was a gift. :colbert:

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



Welllll.

quote:

Watch Dogs @watchdogsgame

Hackers have attempted to infiltrate our system and post false reviews of Watch Dogs. All valid reviews will emerge at release on May 27_

https://twitter.com/watchdogsgame/status/468071829509521408

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

That's meta.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
How much does a valid review cost?

And so much for the embargo being lifted on Thursday, I guess. :v:

Moartoast
Jan 16, 2011

Another unfunny, threadshitting knob-end.

VJeff posted:

And so much for the embargo being lifted on Thursday, I guess. :v:

It's probably (hopefully) just a misinformed PR guy that doesn't know about the embargo lift, I think it's more referring to the hilariously bad review that one guy put up with a video of him dicking around on one street for 10 minutes trying to blow up a gas tank.

Fake edit: Also got to love the underscore they put at the end of the tweet for no reason.

Moartoast fucked around with this message at 18:38 on May 18, 2014

Mr E
Sep 18, 2007

Azurrat posted:

pre-ordering videogames :rolleyes:

I got a code for it on eBay for like 30 bucks, figured it was worth it.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Moartoast posted:

Fake edit: Also got to love the underscore they put at the end of the tweet for no reason.

COMPUTER_

LegoMan
Mar 17, 2002

ting ting ting

College Slice
I must be a braindead Ubisoft Sheeple but that video of him going postal in town with slow motion and people calling the police looked really fun.

Funkstar Deluxe
May 7, 2007

「☆☆☆」

WindmillSlayer posted:

:yayclod: awesome. Are we gonna get to pre-download it on steam so we don't have to deal with server slowness on release?

Probably not as you're going to use uPlay regardless if you bought it on Steam or not.

beer_war
Mar 10, 2005

Some more gameplay with decent quality:

http://fanboyfeed.com/?it_videogames=watch-dogs-beta-gameplay

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007

LegoMan posted:

I must be a braindead Ubisoft Sheeple but that video of him going postal in town with slow motion and people calling the police looked really fun.

I haven't followed this game really and I'm excited for it now, people hype themselves so much (years prior release) they lose perspective.

Those explosions are incredible!! It reminded me of the first time I saw rag doll or reflective surfaces, something impressive that ought to become the standard going forward.

Mr. Kerstbal
Sep 2, 2011

ORIGINAL MONKEY FUCKER

Mr Scumbag posted:

Now just wait a loving minute here. The Established Internet Circlejerk (EIC™)is that this game will be terrible because it lacks a Pulitzer winning plot (not actually confirmed), is developed and published by Ubisoft (Lol those big publishers are pretty poo poo guys, rite? Also Uplay is satan because reasons!) and because it doesn't completely revolutionise the open world or cyberpunk genre(also not actually confirmed). Games can't be good unless they are really high-minded wankfests. So I advise you to pull your head out of your arse and jump on the bandwagon.

:stare:

Dvlos
Aug 26, 2003

"I came here to argue with you about a freaking television show!"

echronorian posted:

I haven't followed this game really and I'm excited for it now, people hype themselves so much (years prior release) they lose perspective.

Those explosions are incredible!! It reminded me of the first time I saw rag doll or reflective surfaces, something impressive that ought to become the standard going forward.

I'm with you on this. Not sure if your supposed to post in the game thread for a game you are following and actually like said game. I believe standard protocol is to spend undue time talking about Far Cry or Sleeping Dogs.

Speaking of other games Assassin Creed 1 was the king of over promising and on its own was not a really great game as half the missions were dull and tied poorly together. That said Ac2 was a phenomenal game, while three tried to be so detailed it was tedious AC4 seems to have corrected much of that again. By this point you would think Ubisofts teams have learned what works and what doesn't in these games I don't see even standard "following" missions to be the same tedious affair it was in AC1, especially for the online invasions.

Review release is something I am highly skeptical over, generally I listen more to goon opinions/reviews combined with general Internet opinions as all too often I've seen a pile of high named game sites rate a game a near 10/10 and proclaim it the second coming of some deity that I end up thinking was a boring dull through the motions type of game. Lo and behold months later that opinion of the game becomes the general one.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007




whatever that alien minigame is, it looks terrible.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


I expect this to be a perfectly well-made, solid experience, but honestly I'm getting tired of open world games that don't really feel organic, and Ubisoft are the worst about this. Every one of their recent games feel like work; a bunch of differing systems haphazardly shackled together in the name of creating width. Playing through FC 3 and AC 4 felt like I was just going through an arbitrary checklist of activities and mini-games because they couldn't figure out how to make their worlds feel cohesive or natural, and almost every mission was so heavily scripted and static that they felt like they belonged in like five different games.

I hope Watch Dogs isn't that, but drat it's going to have to take some serious convincing on their part, which I think they've done a really poor job of. Every time I watch a Ubisoft demo these days, I just naturally assume that it's 90% smoke and mirrors, and that the final game will end up being just as shallow and unengaging as the rest of their catalogue, no matter how much money they spent on making it look super impressive.

This probably sounds really cynical, but I've enjoyed a lot of their games in the past. I just don't know that I can stomach "another one of those" at this point.

Reive
May 21, 2009

ethanol posted:

whatever that alien minigame is, it looks terrible.

Seems fine for a throwaway minigame, I'll probably play chess more.

Here's another leak, this time a full res screenshot, way prettier than those marketing videos made it out to be:

Bleusilences
Jun 23, 2004

Be careful for what you wish for.

Dvlos posted:

Speaking of other games Assassin Creed 1 was the king of over promising and on its own was not a really great game as half the missions were dull and tied poorly together. That said Ac2 was a phenomenal game, while three tried to be so detailed it was tedious AC4 seems to have corrected much of that again. By this point you would think Ubisofts teams have learned what works and what doesn't in these games I don't see even standard "following" missions to be the same tedious affair it was in AC1, especially for the online invasions.

AC2 was really a vast improvement over the first one. The story mission where pretty cool and the side mission was as good as the main mission of the first AC1. The only cool thing about AC1 was the last mission, which was just mind blowing.

Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


Reive posted:

Seems fine for a throwaway minigame, I'll probably play chess more.

Here's another leak, this time a full res screenshot, way prettier than those marketing videos made it out to be:


Which system is that from?

Moartoast
Jan 16, 2011

Another unfunny, threadshitting knob-end.

I see where you're coming from. I'm a total sucker for their formula but I admit that they really need to learn to blend things together better. Most of their games really do feel the weight of hundreds of different people and probably like a dozen different designers pawing at them, they try to be a thousand different things at once and, while they do it better than a lot of other studios, it still makes them feel unfocused and disjointed as gently caress.

After hearing about how like 10 different Ubisoft divisions had a hand in WD's development during its already long development time, I'm confident it will be fairly polished and a decent game, but I'm also confident it will have a whole bunch of eclectic design and superfluous crap all over the place.

Lars Blitzer
Aug 17, 2004

He drinks a Whiskey drink, he drinks a Vodka drink
He drinks a Lager drink, he drinks a Cider drink...


Dick Tracy's number one fan.

Crappy Jack posted:

If a publisher thinks a game isn't going to review well, they'll often push back the review embargo to like the day before release, in order to avoid bad word of mouth and cancelled preorders. The fact that the embargo lifts so early would seem to indicate that Ubisoft isn't worried at all about what reviewers are going to have to say about the game, which is a good sign.

As well considering the cash they've blown on promoting the game (the ARG with the tie-in giveaways, etc) also speaks volumes to their confidence. Plus, during development they haven't exactly kept everything under wraps either. The openness was rather refreshing.

acksplode
May 17, 2004



Hakkesshu posted:

I expect this to be a perfectly well-made, solid experience, but honestly I'm getting tired of open world games that don't really feel organic, and Ubisoft are the worst about this. Every one of their recent games feel like work; a bunch of differing systems haphazardly shackled together in the name of creating width. Playing through FC 3 and AC 4 felt like I was just going through an arbitrary checklist of activities and mini-games because they couldn't figure out how to make their worlds feel cohesive or natural, and almost every mission was so heavily scripted and static that they felt like they belonged in like five different games.

AC3 burned me so hard that I never gave AC4 a look, and I'm one of the few who really enjoyed AC1. I want to get hyped about Watch Dogs because of its setting and style but yeah, the problems I have with their progression on the AC concept are not solved by taking a bunch of systems from GTA and adding some new ones and dumping them on top. Shooting randos in slow motion will be fun a few times while I grind for different guns and abilities to get all the variations on blowing up cop cars, but I've already played that game a million times. The invasion stuff they borrowed from Demons Souls looks cool, and the new franchise and modern environment suggest it's a different take on social stealth, so I have some hope. But I'm waiting to be swayed by actual impressions before I buy.

Funkstar Deluxe
May 7, 2007

「☆☆☆」

acksplode posted:

AC3 burned me so hard that I never gave AC4 a look, and I'm one of the few who really enjoyed AC1. I want to get hyped about Watch Dogs because of its setting and style but yeah, the problems I have with their progression on the AC concept are not solved by taking a bunch of systems from GTA and adding some new ones and dumping them on top. Shooting randos in slow motion will be fun a few times while I grind for different guns and abilities to get all the variations on blowing up cop cars, but I've already played that game a million times. The invasion stuff they borrowed from Demons Souls looks cool, and the new franchise and modern environment suggest it's a different take on social stealth, so I have some hope. But I'm waiting to be swayed by actual impressions before I buy.

It's a shame really that you didn't play AC4, because it is more of a pirate simulator than a game about assassination

That Fucking Sned
Oct 28, 2010

Athenry posted:

Which system is that from?

I did some pixel counting, and it's exactly 1600x900 (the minimap made it really easy), so it's the PS4.

Rookersh
Aug 19, 2010

Athenry posted:

Which system is that from?

Ps4.

The Xbox One version looks really, really, really bad. At least that's if the screenshots posted have been real, and not messed with to trash the console.

PC is supposedly better looking then that Ps4 screenshot.

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007
I love the cobble stone poking through at the cross walk and the layers to that girls dress. The dampness of the umbrella. Subtle details. That screen could pass for concept art.

acksplode
May 17, 2004



friends watch porn posted:

It's a shame really that you didn't play AC4, because it is more of a pirate simulator than a game about assassination

Still feeling confident in the decision.

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Orv
May 4, 2011

Turra posted:

I feel like the description of how multiplayer can work in this game has changed over and over. What's the final status of roaming around with friends in a non-competitive way?

Last page but no-one answered: There is a free roam MP mode with no restrictions.

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