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Nessus posted:It would have been a rather different set of Americas had they had three hundred years to rebuild from Euro diseases, wouldn't it? It very much would have been. I've wondered about the Viking contact in the context of disease, too. One of the big sources of European disease was domesticated animals (pigs, sheep, cattle, fowl) - maybe the Vikings didn't have many of these?
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May 22, 2014 18:01
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Pauline Kael posted:There had never in human history been a case where a weaker group of people were pushed out by a stronger group of people. Yeah if you make an omelet you have to break some eggs. Sometimes you have to force people off their land because your citizens want it, sometimes you have to round up undesirables to serve as forced labor for your racially-pure thousand year reich.
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May 22, 2014 19:47
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The Modern idea of the Nation State - which Americans still believe in - can be 'problematic'. It is an ugly sort of double think - the nation can do both good and bad things (say 70% and 30%) in the course of events, because the role of the state/king/God is to make life or death determinations. But the nation-state also promises good things - ideally it would make society like a body composed of individual cells- a higher level of organization that is purposeful. Sort of like how cellular critters in the ocean organized into Portuguese man o'wars and then jellyfish. The problem is managing the monopoly on power that this requires on our level, and the dangers of anarchy as well.  What item is on either side of the dais in this chamber?
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May 22, 2014 23:26
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There are alot of parallels between the public attitude toward Native Americans and the Israeli policies for the Palestinian territitories. Institutional racial chauvanism is present in many nations, it just isn't taken to the extreme example seen in Nazi Germany.
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May 23, 2014 18:58
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