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Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
I don't know much about this topic but one thing that always sort of turned me off camping is that it...gets pretty cold outside, or hot. Heat isn't such a big problem, since in most places you probably won't die from it and you can do things such as open the windows and/or just go the gently caress somewhere else where it's not so hot, but the cold bit is a bit harder especially since most mobile abodes aren't so well insulated and even mild hospitable locations can get uncomfortably cold at night. Running the vehicle's engine or a fossil fuel generator is sort of unappealing, but has anyone considered using some kind of wood burning stove? I just have this sort of hazy idea in my mind after seeing this thing

https://practicalpreppers.com/about-us/product-reviews/item/201-30-watt-thermoelectric-generator

which gives me all kinds of neat thoughts about going out and living in the woods and using up all that firewood just lying around. I have even more crazy ideas like a pop-out wood burning stove on an RV that will serve to do any number of things, like heat up a cooling circuit that can heat the interior, have a cooking surface, and also provide electricity via the thermocouple.

Inconjuction with this, now that EVs and hybrid vehicles with their big ol batteries are more common, it seems like the perfect sort of tow-behind vehicle to have with a camper, supposing the technical details can be worked out that allow you to actually use the vehicle's battery for stuff other than moving.

Throatwarbler fucked around with this message at 11:47 on Jun 17, 2014

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igv9
Sep 3, 2006
Everything witty I could put here has already been said.
Why would you think raw wood would be any better than a refined fuel? Also most or all state and national parks have a ban on moving and using any wood in the parks. The forests need the wood to keep the ecosystem functioning properly so that grubworms and such have somewhere to live and can turn deadwood into new fertile soil.

Also I hope you love everything in and out of your wood burning RV smelling like smoke constantly. And dumping ashes in the middle of the night when the tray is full and cutting off the air supply to the fire. Don't forget the risk of chimney fires mandating cleaning regularly, but not often enough you remember.

Siochain
May 24, 2005

"can they get rid of any humans who are fans of shitheads like Kanye West, 50 Cent, or any other piece of crap "artist" who thinks they're all that?

And also get rid of anyone who has posted retarded shit on the internet."


Throatwarbler posted:

I don't know much about this topic but one thing that always sort of turned me off camping is that it...gets pretty cold outside, or hot. Heat isn't such a big problem, since in most places you probably won't die from it and you can do things such as open the windows and/or just go the gently caress somewhere else where it's not so hot, but the cold bit is a bit harder especially since most mobile abodes aren't so well insulated and even mild hospitable locations can get uncomfortably cold at night. Running the vehicle's engine or a fossil fuel generator is sort of unappealing, but has anyone considered using some kind of wood burning stove? I just have this sort of hazy idea in my mind after seeing this thing

https://practicalpreppers.com/about-us/product-reviews/item/201-30-watt-thermoelectric-generator

which gives me all kinds of neat thoughts about going out and living in the woods and using up all that firewood just lying around. I have even more crazy ideas like a pop-out wood burning stove on an RV that will serve to do any number of things, like heat up a cooling circuit that can heat the interior, have a cooking surface, and also provide electricity via the thermocouple.

Inconjuction with this, now that EVs and hybrid vehicles with their big ol batteries are more common, it seems like the perfect sort of tow-behind vehicle to have with a camper, supposing the technical details can be worked out that allow you to actually use the vehicle's battery for stuff other than moving.

Most firewood lying around is too wet to be a reliable heating source, and greatly increases the buildup of creosote in the chimney, which can cause fires. As previously mentioned as well, many parks/wilderness areas have bans/restrictions on bringing in outside wood, or on burning at all. And most RV's/Camper's I've seen are insulated enough that as long as your not trying to survive in winter, you won't be too bad. I've spent many a night warm and toasty inside a trailer when it was hovering around freezing outside, with only a small electric heater keeping it warm.

Fossil fuels are a very efficient, compact source of heat, and work very well. A wood burning stove needs to be large, heavy, and retain a lot of the excess heat energy created by the not-as-controllable burning of solid fuels. Don't get me wrong, I see the romance of the idea, but it just would not be viable.

Ferremit
Sep 14, 2007
if I haven't posted about MY LANDCRUISER yet, check my bullbars for kangaroo prints



Even my little Bedouin tent on the roof doesnt get THAT cold- Even if its in the minus' outside its still toasty warm inside it with just a feather doona. Dont underestimate how much heat breathing and farting gives out.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
Fair enough on the legal limtations, but with respect to the smoke, creosote issue, the wood stove in my house does not fill the kitchen with smoke when I use it, all the smoke is quite effectively evacuated through the chimney. A chimney on an RV isn't going to be nearly as big as the one on a house and doesn't need to snake through a brick wall, only exit the relatively thin body of the camper, and as such should be easy enough to remove and clean. Thinking about it for a moment, why not make the back of the stove a door outside the camper, so that in the morning, the door can be opened outside and the ashes simply dumped out on the ground behind the vehicle? Or maybe make the whole stove "face" out the back/side of the vehicle, with the wood being fed in from the outside, and the "back" of the stove designed to radiate heat into the cabin?

Siochain
May 24, 2005

"can they get rid of any humans who are fans of shitheads like Kanye West, 50 Cent, or any other piece of crap "artist" who thinks they're all that?

And also get rid of anyone who has posted retarded shit on the internet."


Throatwarbler posted:

Fair enough on the legal limtations, but with respect to the smoke, creosote issue, the wood stove in my house does not fill the kitchen with smoke when I use it, all the smoke is quite effectively evacuated through the chimney. A chimney on an RV isn't going to be nearly as big as the one on a house and doesn't need to snake through a brick wall, only exit the relatively thin body of the camper, and as such should be easy enough to remove and clean.

And there is part of the crux of it. Longer chimney = more draft = less chance of back-drafting smoke and less creosote deposit. People around here do a TON of ice fishing, and a lot will put woodstoves in their shacks - they work well. But its not mobile except twice a year, and the guys with short chimneys end up starting fires. Ashes also usually have legal reg's for disposal.

It could work, it would just be inefficient and potentially more dangerous than other alternatives.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
Behold!



Make it so the chimney section on top can be easily removed by climbing up to the roof of the truck, hell make the whole drat kit and kaboodle removable. engineer some way to radiate the heat into the truck, maybe even run coolant lines from the engine and use that, with the added bonus of reducing engine warmup times on cold mornings, atach thermocouples for light power generation, it's just a matter of how much efficiency you want vs how complex you want to engineer the whole circuit.

Throatwarbler fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Jun 17, 2014

thegasman2000
Feb 12, 2005
Update my TFLC log? BOLLOCKS!
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:backtowork:
Around here we have a load of canal boats which all use wood burners. Most use coal though though. As such a lot of these hippie types have wood burners in them. For me it's firstly the need. It doesn't get below freezing too much here in Europe. Secondly I don't want to be cleaning that bastard or cutting wood for it.

A small diesel heater webasto makes them. Very efficient carbon monoxide safe and can use the vehicle fuel source. Much better IMHO

Viper_3000
Apr 26, 2005

I could give a shit about all that.

Throatwarbler posted:

Behold!



Make it so the chimney section on top can be easily removed by climbing up to the roof of the truck, hell make the whole drat kit and kaboodle removable. engineer some way to radiate the heat into the truck, maybe even run coolant lines from the engine and use that, with the added bonus of reducing engine warmup times on cold mornings, atach thermocouples for light power generation, it's just a matter of how much efficiency you want vs how complex you want to engineer the whole circuit.

The chimney on your house is easily 15 feet tall at minimum. What you drew based on most RV's is about 7 feet + whatever the extension you drew is (Not another 8 feet for sure). The reason your chimney in the house works so well is because of the draft that's created by having that long piece of pipe going up thru your entire house and (if it's to code) 3 feet above it. You can't shrink that distance and expect to get the same amount of draft.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin

Viper_3000 posted:

The chimney on your house is easily 15 feet tall at minimum. What you drew based on most RV's is about 7 feet + whatever the extension you drew is (Not another 8 feet for sure). The reason your chimney in the house works so well is because of the draft that's created by having that long piece of pipe going up thru your entire house and (if it's to code) 3 feet above it. You can't shrink that distance and expect to get the same amount of draft.

I suppose you could make the chimney taller although that would be rather difficult to set up and tear down, but at this point the entire stove is outside the cabin so the smoke should be a non issue right?

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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Wood certainly seems like a cozy and chill option for the heating, but the reality is that the logistics of that just don't work when you only have 200 square feet to work with.

There is a *lot* that you could do to increase an RV's energy efficiency. Double-pane windows evidently help a ton, and don't forget that your floor is basically 1" marine grade plywood and then....nothing. Maybe a storage bin. You can get huge efficiency gains by just gluing a layer of 1" or so thick foam insulation to the underside of the floor, in every place you can get to. Yes, if you've been paying attention, this is a chance to insulate some stairs.

After that, plumb in a small catalytic wall heater for base heating load (furnaces' LP consumption isn't the problem, it's the 8 amps for the blower, annoying lil drain) and you're burning half the LP of the guy next to you for the same comfort.

Speaking of energy efficiency, I found these solar collector tubes last night. How cool would it be to build a little frame for these on the roof for use as a solar water heater?

Viper_3000
Apr 26, 2005

I could give a shit about all that.

Throatwarbler posted:

I suppose you could make the chimney taller although that would be rather difficult to set up and tear down, but at this point the entire stove is outside the cabin so the smoke should be a non issue right?

If the stove doesn't face in the cabin to provide heat then you are just continually creating more problems to be solved than is necessary. Space is always at a premium with an RV which is why they use a liquid source for fuel, heating, and cooking.

slurry_curry
Nov 26, 2003
<3mini-moni+animu^_^

A friend of mine has a RV with a wood burning stove in it and he doesn't have any issues with it. He uses it to go up skiing in the winter and apparently melts the snow around where he parks. The chimney is not that tall either.

*edit* found a picture of the outside at least



It takes up a decent amount of the inside, but he seems to love it.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

I've always wanted a small (for here, land of RV yachts) 18' or so hardwall trailer to tow around. I just don't think I'd get the use of it though so the rare time we go out we typically hotel it.

Speaking of land yachts, a while back my sister and brother-in-law called and said they were passing through town and asked to get together for a drink. Sure I said, just come by park it next to our house. We live on a corner lot so I didn't think there would be any issue with parking. They declined because the "roads were too tight" in my neighborhood so they elected to just park overnight in the local casino parking lot so we met them there.

:aaa:




For comparison, our Legacy wa probably 2' behind the front bumper of the RV.
That trailer had 3 race cars and a very well equipped shop in the front.

Yeah, really roughing it.

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May 5, 2005



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Hahah, that is an ill setup. It needs some wizard graphics, though.

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Holy poo poo did I just get a deal. An old fella came by last week from down the street, he used to RV but sold all his gear but his tow setup. I stopped by a minute ago and scored a Brake Buddy and a Roadmaster Blackhawk tow bar for five hundred bucks. Cheapest internet price on those two items is ~1800.

All I need now is a toad! There's a '99 CR-V in town for $2k that we might look at this week.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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Bad pics, apologies...

primer up (1 coat, doing 2)





Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Man, that wallpaper really was nasty. I'm glad you're getting rid of it, it'll look amazing afterward.

TacoHavoc
Dec 31, 2007
It's taco-y and havoc-y...at the same time!
This thread makes me want an RV so bad. It wasn't even on my radar until I started reading...

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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Found the two hidden bolts that held the front TV down. It's out. And, after I removed that, I noticed on the 12v wall plate a red LED,and a switch. Ha! I found the phantom 12V load - the antenna amplifier!


Rained today so I wasnt able to paint. Tomorrow we go and get paint for walls and cabinets, so we can get paint up so we can lay flooring. After that we can reinstall the couch - its currently balanced on the front seats cause its too big to get thru the door. Once I can move it out of the way, I can then mount *drumroll* the TV i bought today. Samsung 28" 720p - I don't care about 1080p at that size, and we determined that a 32" would be too tall and we'd bonk our heads on the corners getting out of our front seats going back into the cabin.

Anyways, the current to-do list in no particular order, I'm sure i'm missing some poo poo:

-paint (cabinets, walls, cabinet doors/drawers)
-new cabinet knobs and handles
-find some primer and brushed nickel-esque paint that we can hit the hinges with because gently caress buying 30 brushed nickel hinges at four bucks a pop
-hit the light fixture housings with that same paint, i think it will look neat
-paint interior a/c housings and vent trim (probably the cabinet drawer blue)
-paint bottom panel of screen door (ooogly orange)
-floors
--figure out baseboard molding
-reinstall couch/3rd chair
-finish re-covering window cornices, reinstall
-pull bathroom toilet
--so we can pull the carpet
-lay down some decent cheap linoleum something in the bathroom
-buy more LED lighting
-mount TV
-Figure out some sort of media player. I was looking at a roku3 but now I am thinking of getting an intel NUC and a 2.4ghz remote
-run cat5e/cat6 everywhere from the network cabinet (little corner cabinet in the hall, not good for anything else)
-buy some eternabond tape and reseal the roof seams
-buy a buttload of beige non leveling RV sealant and redo the sides
-(possibly) plastidip that red on the outside to a black stripe
-check appliances, fire everything up
-service generator (points/oil/so on)
-put dash back together
-figure out stereo. wife's jeep has a pretty sweet Sony head unit, may use that. Moving my 10" with 320w sub over - not huge but it'll be nice. Wanna buy some hella 6x9's to replace the sorta meh cabin speakers. The bedroom will be a simple setup, my 70's JVC receiver and my decent Sony bookshelves mounted on wall brackets.


it's really not much to do at all!

Jonny 290 fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Jun 23, 2014

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

The Roku3 will be ready to go out of the box, just download the applets you want. If you have a media PC anywhere in there, you can also set up Plex on it and stream local content (I have RARPlex on my Roku, and Plex on my main PC)

The NUC will be a lot more configurable (and usable as a daily PC if you get one with a decent CPU), but Microsoft has pretty much EOL'd Windows Media Center (you can still buy it as a :10bux: add-on for Win8 Pro.. not Home, oddly - it shipps with Win7 Home if you have a license already - either way, they're not updating it anymore). XBMC is a pain in the rear end to get working perfectly (just for local media, not even gonna go into streaming), but it's really powerful. There's Linux flavors as well as x86/x64.

Also, even the current gen Roku1 (what I have) is pretty drat good, though the 3 adds a headphone jack on the remote.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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Gettin' some floor in. note that paint/trim not done obviously

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

some texas redneck posted:

XBMC is a pain in the rear end to get working perfectly (just for local media, not even gonna go into streaming), but it's really powerful.

Huh? If by "pain in the rear end" you mean "Pick the add source option, browse to your media folder(s), and tell it what kind of media the folder you're adding contains" then sure. I have a complicated setup with MySQL media libraries and PseudoTV yet it still takes me about five minutes to go from a fresh install to ready to watch TV. As long as your media folders aren't a clusterfuck of disorganization and scene names you're fine, and if it is nothing will be easy.

Chromecast and Roku are pretty much literally plug-and-play, but they trade convenience for capabilities. XBMC I agree streaming is awkward at best for most sources, but as far as local media is concerned there's nothing better.

edit: vvv Digital TV still uses the same frequencies (mostly, a few were removed from TV allocation to be given to mobile service or FM radio), so the same amp should work fine.

wolrah fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Jun 26, 2014

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

Jonny 290 posted:

Found the two hidden bolts that held the front TV down. It's out. And, after I removed that, I noticed on the 12v wall plate a red LED,and a switch. Ha! I found the phantom 12V load - the antenna amplifier!

And that system isn't going to do anything anymore since it's old school UHF/VHF.

That and most parks have free cable anyway.

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Ooh, thanks for reminding me to re-connect the park cable drop - it terminates back by the other utilities, need to ensure it works.

And yeah, those amplified old school heads should do okay for most channels. If it ends up being lovely, Winegard makes a designed-for-DTV head that bolts right up to our lift system, 50 bucks iirc.

After I finish the floor, the lady is going to get started painting while I start running CAT5/CAT6. To be honest, I hate wireless and avoid it when possible. I was fortunate enough to have a previous job that gave me a hookup on spool ends, so i have like 30-50 runs of 5, 5e and 6, between 60 and 100 feet in length. We'll have a central patch panel with the router and all that in the middle.

One thing that I want to do is be able to patch up and run HDMI over Ethernet between the front and back of the house. This generally requires two runs, add in a third for a media player box and we might as well run four to each TV, because running 4 runs of cat5 is exactly as hard as running 1, and I have the materials. Then I want two up by the dash (it'll be my ham radio desk as well), one on each side of the living area, two in the bedroom and two to outside. 16 runs, I have a 24 port panel, should have plenty of room. Right now I have an 8 port gig switch, so we'll have more drops than ports, but not a big deal at all, Ethernet will be a relatively fixed setup and we won't be constantly repatching.

Heavily leaning towards the Ubiquity nanostation loco m2 for our wifi-stealin'. I figure I can put it up on a 6 -> 12 foot extending paint pole mounted to the ladder, and pop it up. It's not an omni, it has a pie-slice pattern so we can rotate it to kill interference or home in on a good signal.

NAS duties will be my old trusty 4-bay Synology, with new drives. Looking at two of the 2TB WD Reds to start. This will be the only thing with platters in the RV, I kind of want to figure out how to shock mount it.

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot
Is there any photos of the house wiring and stuff like that?

Jonny 290
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I got a couple back there in the thread when I put in the wiring panel, I need to get a good diagram and all.

Hey, turns out amplified rooftop antennas work a lot better when the coax on the roof isn't cut! Patched that up real quick to test and I got the antenna to swivel, too, so it can be aimed (north/south here brings in like four more channels).

bandman
Mar 17, 2008
oh god how did these get here i am not good with campers...



The streetside wall (above) is in decent shape. A little deterioration at the corners, nothing too bad

The curbside wall, however...



...is loving destroyed. That panel on the ground there just fell the gently caress off when I took the skin off. I am amazed the whole thing didn't explode into a cloud of splinters on the interstate when we hauled it home.

We knew that we were replacing all of the wood under the skins when we bought it, which is why we only paid $600 for it. I'm just amazed at how bad it really was on that side.

edit: christ on a loving bicycle, I didn't realize how bad those pics were. Serves me right working till 11:30 PM, I suppose. I'll get some good pics of the carnage tomorrow afternoon.

bandman fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Jun 27, 2014

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

bandman posted:

oh god how did these get here i am not good with campers...



The streetside wall (above) is in decent shape. A little deterioration at the corners, nothing too bad

The curbside wall, however...



...is loving destroyed. That panel on the ground there just fell the gently caress off when I took the skin off. I am amazed the whole thing didn't explode into a cloud of splinters on the interstate when we hauled it home.

We knew that we were replacing all of the wood under the skins when we bought it, which is why we only paid $600 for it. I'm just amazed at how bad it really was on that side.

edit: christ on a loving bicycle, I didn't realize how bad those pics were. Serves me right working till 11:30 PM, I suppose. I'll get some good pics of the carnage tomorrow afternoon.

Holy poo poo. Magic was holding that side up. Did you kick in some 2x4 to hold up the roof?

bandman
Mar 17, 2008
There's a closet in there holding up the roof :v:

Seriously, that's why I left the closet in while I took everything else out. I knew that it was the only thing holding up the roof.

This bitch is getting torn down to a bare frame and rebuilt with all new wood, so I don't give a poo poo even if it does collapse. I'm probably going to get new metal for the roof, since the one there now is three aluminum panels screwed together and slathered with seam sealer. One big sheet of aluminum would mean fewer potential places for leaks, and I'm all about building this thing to last.

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot
As much as you want to over build, dont forget, your limited to the amount of weight the trailer frame can handle safely and thats also including water, gear, other poo poo, etc.

But yeah, single sheets of aluminum are always going to be better. I see some hack jobs and it makes me scratch my head when it would have been much easier to do it right in the beginning.

Sandbagger SA
Aug 12, 2003

Giant Thighs.
Painted Threads.
Just Off the Highway.


Here's another project for me to get in over my head.

bandman
Mar 17, 2008
That is one good lookin' loaf. At least on the side in the picture, the edge strips appear to be in good shape, so there's hope it's not rotsville in the walls/roof/everyfuckingwhere.

I'm doing some simplifying on my trailer. It came with a shower/shitter combo, which I'm ditching. I'm also not going to remount the onboard water tank, because we don't ever plan on using it anywhere without running water. The fewer chances for water to gently caress things up, the better. I'm also going to go straight 110v on all of the electrics aside from the brake lights, running lights, and trailer brakes. Again, we don't plan on using it anywhere that doesn't have at least a 30 amp hookup.

Hopefully I can dismantle the rest of the camper over the weekend and get the frame cleaned up and dig in to the wheel bearings and brakes. It's 40 years old, but it still came with electric brakes from the factory. I'm sure they're thoroughly hosed in every possible way, but I'd like to retain them. 4Runners didn't have large enough brake rotors from the factory, so they get chewed up even without towing a load. You can swap Tundra brakes on, but I'd have to swap on 16" wheels and tires and swap in a 4.10 or 4.30 rear end to make up for the taller tire, and on and on until I've spent $1500 on the truck, when I can just fix the trailer brakes and/or use my dad's F150 to tow and not worry about it.

Sandbagger SA
Aug 12, 2003

Giant Thighs.
Painted Threads.
Just Off the Highway.

bandman posted:

That is one good lookin' loaf. At least on the side in the picture, the edge strips appear to be in good shape, so there's hope it's not rotsville in the walls/roof/everyfuckingwhere.

Stay tuned for more pics. I'm at work and the internet if awful here. There is rot and it WILL need work but the metal frame is solid and it towed nicely the circuitous hour and a half route that I took through New Hampshire backroads.

The seller said it's a 1971 Scotsman.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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Fresh round of gadgets ordered. WD TV Live (rev3), Netgear WNR3700 v2 (dece reviews, 2.4/5ghz and can eat dd-wrt) and a Ubiquiti Nanostation loco m2 for wifi leechin'.

code:


[Nanostation]-----------------[poe]---[router WAN]
                                      [router ethernet]-------[NAS, Ethernet drops]
                                            |
                                      [5ghz wifi]

Sandbagger SA
Aug 12, 2003

Giant Thighs.
Painted Threads.
Just Off the Highway.
More pictures!











The corners in the front need help. Pretty much the entire back wall is hosed and the ceiling on the front passenger side could use some help. The door needs to be anchored better. The floor is rock solid, though.

I don't know if the gas or water lines or the electrical wiring is good enough to use. The mini fridge is pretty clean though I haven't tried to plug it in yet.

Sandbagger SA fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jun 27, 2014

Das Volk
Nov 19, 2002

by Cyrano4747
I know this is probably a long shot, but are there any decent places up in Reno to rent an RV? I would have thought there would be with all the people who go to Burning Man but it seems like there's just a handful of places, and finding information on them is pretty difficult.

Sandbagger SA
Aug 12, 2003

Giant Thighs.
Painted Threads.
Just Off the Highway.


I started demo today.

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Hell yeah, tear all that poo poo out. Lots of work ahead but it's going to be great.
Since you're ripping out so much I'd strongly think to nuke and redo as much of the infrastructure as you can with modern materials. GFCI protection (if redoing the 110V - DEFINITELY rip that surface mount poo poo out no matter what) and add anything else in that you think you might want.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

Das Volk posted:

I know this is probably a long shot, but are there any decent places up in Reno to rent an RV? I would have thought there would be with all the people who go to Burning Man but it seems like there's just a handful of places, and finding information on them is pretty difficult.

You know what, I was going to say Sierra RV, but I think they stopped that.

Yeah, they did. Try http://www.elmonterv.com/

I think a few of the places stopped renting because of BM.

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Cabinet paint is up. One coat or two? I'm not sure yet. They're primed really well.

Pulled down the awning - it has pinholes right by the RV body, but that's fixable easy, the mechanism all works. A little mildewy but the instructions literally say "slosh bleach water on that thing, roll it up to work it around, wait 10 mins and then pull it all the way out, hose off and air dry" so I'll just go with that

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