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Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

cultureulterior posted:

The Waterstones special edition has a short story set right after the last chapter. About driving home to london with the elf child

I haven't read the story, but isn't he going back with the human Nicole who was abducted way back when? In the book, the mother wanted to exchange the human child for the elf she raised.

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Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Are Coe's other series good? I've checked him out on goodreads and all 3 of them (Tobyn, Forelands and the third one) sound like generic fantasy.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

g0del posted:

Agreed. Minor spoilers for Annihilation Score: Towards the end of the book, Mo feels betrayed by someone she trusted, and she compares it to how she would feel if Bob had cheated on her. Despite the fact that she's been actively cheating* on Bob! That kind of hypocrisy might be typical for a lot of people, but those are the kind of people that I don't really like very much.

I also think that it could have used at least one more editing pass. In one scene Mo doesn't want to have to explain the enigma of Officer Friendly to a group of politicians, and then in the very next scene she has no idea who Officer Friendly is.


*Yeah, she didn't sleep with Officer Friendly,** but as far as I'm concerned going out on dates and having a heavy make-out session in the back seat of a limo counts as cheating.
** Sounds like the name of a kids TV show host who is later discovered to have been a pedophile.


I haven't read the new book yet, but didn't Bob leave her because of the violin in the previous one?

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

torgeaux posted:

Yeah, it is. It's badly written, mostly cliched, and I recommend anyone who wants to try it borrow it and read the first bit. You'll know if you can stand it or not right away.

Badly written? Maybe if your reference point is actual literature. Then 99% of fantasy & SF will be badly written. But if it's Dresden, then Generation V is either equal or better than.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

torgeaux posted:

No, I'm keeping the level steady. It's badly written, very much so, by the standards of urban fantasy.

edit: It's Dresden book one and two level bad writing, for comparison. Maybe it will follow the same level of improvement, too.

I know tastes are very different but I didn't see this at all. And I didn't like the first two Dresden books either, the only reason I read the third is cause everyone was saying that that's where it gets good.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Azuth0667 posted:

I knew that part but, is this just hyperbolic hilarity or is that the stated reason of their divorce?

I seriously doubt that someone with even a minimum of self-awareness would put "doesn't let me write sex scenes in his book series" as a reason for divorce. That kind of stuff is what the wonderful phrase "irreconcilable differences" exists for.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

coyo7e posted:

So we've got "the outsider", who is nearing their own personal coming of age - yet hasn't fully embraced, accepted, or learned his own powers! - takes up "a quest" which the general group he's familiar with cannot/won't take up, and which they don't feel he can overcome.. He meets a magical sidekick and goes through a small training montage to make the most of his unique powers - even if his opponents have the same powers and are more practised, he's got a secret weapon to beat the odds!

Yep, totally not a YA novel. :laugh:

Thanks for posting the summary, I knew nothing about the book except Mr. rose-tinted's opinion, and I'm not greatly caught off guard by it being exactly what I expected.

When you put it like that, it does sound a bit formulaic.
On the other hand, this is a thread about Harry Dresden, a wizard PI.

Also, doing something like this:

Wolpertinger posted:

It's just a decent UF series

coyo7e posted:

(referring to the above quoted Wolpertinger post) Totally gritty urban fantasy

makes you look like a poo poo.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

I think it's Policeman, not Detective.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

I've finished the 3 Pax Arcana books and I like 'em.

Any other new-ish good UF series?

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Paragon8 posted:

The sex workers are humanized just enough to be a titillating backdrop that doesn't condone sex work at all. They're all in it for the money to support their kids or trying to get out of the industry etc.

I don't really get the problem with this, was he supposed to portray work in porn as something to strive for?

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Magres posted:

You could depict it as a valid life choice instead of something for the desperate and the pathologically vain.

I don't know about the vain part, but isn't it mostly for folks who can't get a job that isn't porn and pays as much as porn? I know there are porn stars who've left legitimate careers to work in porn but I've always seen them as a very small percentage.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

I suppose I'm as uncomfortable with sex work as Butcher is. On the other hand, so is the rest of society.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

darth cookie posted:

I didn't want to get into this stupid argument but please don't speak for the rest of society. I'm part of the rest of society and you don't speak for me.

You know what I mean, you're being obtuse on purpose.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

darth cookie posted:

No I'm not. I don't care what you personally believe about sex workers. You are entitled to your opinion, whatever that may be, but you don't get to claim that everyone agrees with you or shares that opinion.

On that note, I'm out of this thread.
Then substitute "most people" for "the rest of society".

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

jivjov posted:

He writes Harry as a big goony guy who can leer quite a bit, but then suddenly turns around and takes a moral high ground against a lot of casual sexuality.

It's called being human.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Omi no Kami posted:

I just caught up with the Rook show, and holy crap this is garbage. We all knew it was gonna be, but holy cow.

it's impressively bad

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

anilEhilated posted:

Going through the first book of the King's Watch series that was briefly talked about here a couple pages ago. I'm leaning on the "uncomfortably Tory" interpretation from what I've seen so far, with stuff like the main character sadly remarking that very few breakfast places in London are not run by foreigners and so on.
It honestly feels a lot like what would happen if Larry Correia was British and slightly less stupid. Not sure if I'll be finishing it.

I don't remember that part but this is definitely wrong. I didn't really like the series so I quit after book 2 or so, but I didn't pick up any "tory" undertones, especially "uncomfortably Tory" ones.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008


Well, there's me told off. Don't know how I missed some of these.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

young john constantine would somehow help voldemort escape from azkaban or wherever and then adult john constantine would trick him into going back (but only after he's killed a fair number of constantine's friends and/or family, never constantine himself)

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Beachcomber posted:

I'm reading the latest Laundry files book and I got very angry around page 100 when I realized what he was doing.

what's that? I haven't read it and probably won't but put it in spoiler tags for those who will.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Omi no Kami posted:

Hmm, I'm looking for a terrible book out of morbid curiosity, but I can't for the life of me remember what it's called: it was a fascinatingly bad story about a guy who was basically a cross between Florida Man and an NRA lobbyist, who went around shooting every single monster he saw with just oh-so many guns, pausing between action beats to wax poetic about all of the awesome guns he was using to horribly murder things. My brain seems to think it was an Eric Flint book called Monster Hunter, but I'm pretty sure both the author and title are way off.

Is this ringing a bell for anyone? I remember being told it was just unbelievably awful enough to be entertaining in an 'oh John Ringo, no' way, but gunshoots + monsters only narrows it down to, like, 50% of all urban fantasy ever written.

lmao would it surprise you that the author was the initiator of the sad puppies campaign

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Mike/M. R. Carey is a recommendation whatever genre/medium he's working in. I haven't read his Felix Castor series but everything else has been very good.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

biracial bear for uncut posted:

Yeah, he was the guy that wrote the Lucifer comics everyone loves when that character got his own series separate from Gaiman's Sandman, right?

Also The Girl With All The Gifts (yeah, the one that was made into a movie) and some post-apocalyptic London series called the Rampart Trilogy that had it's first book published this year.

yes to all of this
rampart is already finished (book 1 & 2 came out last year, book 3 in this one)
as far as his comics works goes, also read crossing midnight, the unwritten, the highest house and the dollhouse family
i'm sad that there probably won't be more of the highest house

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

InCryptid: I liked the prequel stories much more than the main series, which I quit after 5 or 6 books. The Aeslin mice rule.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Your Uncle Dracula posted:

What would be the worst were-thing to enter a paranormal romance with?

were-rat of course

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Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Beachcomber posted:

Codex Alera finished with book 6, afaik.

yes, 15 years ago.
the son is the better writer, IMO, I enjoyed the two books he's put out so far.

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