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Mr.48 posted:In that instance his mind was being clouded by magic, so I thought his obliviousness was understandable. Wait until they start doing meth. EDIT: Also, Neil Gaiman is a ruthless mother fucker in it.
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Skippy McPants posted:The books were never not going to transition out of the Supernatural P.I. temple. It's been known for a long time now that the plan from the start was to gradually ramp up the stakes, scale and power level of the plot and characters. I can understand if you don't like it, but it really shouldn't come as any kind of shock at this point. Additionally I'm not sure the the original premise of the books could have sustained the twenty or more novels planned for the series. Harry Dresden vs. Heironymous Bosch. Who is written by the better author? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Bosch and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Dresden EDIT: Never noticed Harry Dresden's name is listed on a billing sign in The Prestige. That's pretty cool. Some Pinko Commie fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Sep 16, 2014 |
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Sep 16, 2014 17:24
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To be fair, the same thing tends to happen with Dresden.
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Mr.48 posted:Thanks for telling me to stick with it, because I am now forced to retract all my earlier complaints about the book. Yes, I just got to the part where Gaiman gets to be a ruthless motherfucker, and boy did poo poo get real. Book is legit, hope the ending doesn't disappoint! Unfortunately, the bits about Hell in that book are pretty much the best parts.
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Sep 17, 2014 21:23
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Oh my. Looks like the first chapter of Foxglove Summer is up on Ben Aaronovitch's blog: gently caress, the US release date can't get here fast enough.
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Sep 18, 2014 21:49
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That system would be great if the protagonist wasn't unlocking things. Also if literally every limit except the bit about not being trained to use a given weapon being thrown out the window whenever said limit would kill the protagonist.
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Sep 22, 2014 02:38
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NinjaDebugger posted:He's basically the complete opposite of Dresden, which is part of what makes him interesting. He has a versatile and incredibly useful power, but it's really bad at direct confrontation and he -can't- just sling explosions around. Plus he has a sidekick that can literally invoke Final Destination accidents on enemies. That's always fun.
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Sep 23, 2014 12:57
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Grundulum posted:
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Sep 25, 2014 15:47
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There is no escape! Don't make me destroy you. Harry, you do not yet realize your importance. You've only begun to discover your power! Join me, and I will complete your training! With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict, and bring order to the universe.
[angrily] I'll never join you!
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Ornamented Death posted:Unofficial urban fantasy thread, I bring you an excerpt from Foxglove Summer. Someone already beat you to it here. Hieronymous Alloy posted:Oh my. Looks like the first chapter of Foxglove Summer is up on Ben Aaronovitch's blog:
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Sep 26, 2014 12:10
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Hey, remember that snuff film sex scene in Skin Game? Good times.
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Sep 26, 2014 16:22
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Yeah, if you're going to throw Neil Gaiman into the mix there is no way I'm going to argue about Butcher's level of writing. American Gods loving owns and you should be ashamed for not having read it ten years ago, assuming you weren't literally five years old back then or something. Pretty much everything Gaiman does is gold, though.
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Sep 26, 2014 17:14
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Dresden still makes idiotic nerd references to poo poo, probably. At least he isn't the Iron Druid.
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Sep 26, 2014 17:30
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mirthdefect posted:http://storybundle.com/fantasy?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=urbanfantasyStory Bundle has a wee Bigfoot short story collection [/URL] from Butcher. Just a heads-up that the Bigfoot collection has the stories out of order. Actual story order vs. book order is: Read first story, read last story, read middle story. The idea of someone engaging in dark magic against a bigfoot to re-grow their hair (because Rogaine doesn't work) was pretty funny.
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Oct 21, 2014 15:40
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My working theory is that when Butters was soul-gazed by the necromancers he actually hardened the gently caress up and puts on the scared nerd act to throw people off. I mean, how else did he end up with werewolf Andi? The Butters that was first introduced certainly wouldn't have been able to start a relationship with her.
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Oct 23, 2014 16:37
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Also, the angel Uriel is a dick that loves Star Wars and he always wanted a Star Wars fan for a Knight.
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Oct 23, 2014 18:45
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Rhymenoserous posted:And butters was introduced to the group as their new dungeon master. I forget which book. The word "Nerd boner" was used. "His nerd penis is longer and harder than all of ours put together" was the exact phrasing, if I recall.
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Oct 24, 2014 21:51
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Butters should have loving stayed dead when the Corpsetaker ripped his soul out of his body is what I'm getting at. Regarding Andi, I think there was a bit in either Cold Days or Ghost Story where Dresden makes some kind of "We ought to rename her Danger Prone Daphne" remark when she gets kidnapped again.
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Oct 28, 2014 12:23
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:And then picks up the Sword of Hope. Poor Sanya. You know that look Gard gets when she has foreknowledge of a warrior's fated death?. Well, last we got word of Sanya was a grainy aerial photograph of him with radiation burns facing off against two Denarians in the Middle East, so at the very least he's going to be scarred the gently caress up next time we see him in a book.
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Oct 30, 2014 20:30
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-Fish- posted:Pretty sure radiation burns weren't mentioned at all. A nuclear reactor was cracked apart with smoke and steam everywhere, if Sanya didn't suffer from radiation exposure, he's at least going to die of cancer later on.
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Oct 30, 2014 20:47
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ConfusedUs posted:I don't remember this. When did it happen? Was it just something said in passing at one point? Butcher, Jim (2014-05-27). Skin Game: A Novel of the Dresden Files (pp. 192-193). Penguin Group US. Kindle Edition. posted:“Those are from Iran,” Karrin said. “Gary says that they show a functioning nuclear power plant.” The images were obviously of some sort of installation, but I couldn’t tell anything beyond that. Sanya is facing off against two Denarians right in the middle of where the steam was being vented from a reactor that was trying not to go critical. I'd say some sort of radiation dosage is likely, if not outright radiation poisoning (assuming Sanya even survives that encounter). Some Pinko Commie fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Oct 30, 2014 |
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Rygar201 posted:I love how we went from "white mist, maybe steam." to Sanya was covered in radioactive steam burns. Yeah, it wasn't explicitly stated, but given all the other times a cloud of steam has hosed someone up in the Dresden Files (or Harry had to call on winter to shield himself from it), I read it as "Sanya got burned" and the damaged reactor added the radiation bits.
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Oct 31, 2014 02:49
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Eh, I don't know. Harry just held Anduriel's assault off like it wasn't poo poo, and still had enough concentration/power left over to smack the Serial Killer Bigfoot with ice bullets. Then he deflected Lasciel's fire magic, twice, and then had enough energy left over to run back through the ice grinder maze to smash Serial Killer Bigfoot. It was sheer exhaustion that wore Harry down at the end of Skin Game, not the actual enemies he was facing. If Butters had fumbled the sword grab, Molly showing up seconds later and loving everyone's poo poo up would have been just as awesome of an ending to the battle.
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Oct 31, 2014 14:50
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Well, I'm pretty sure Micheal is putting pieces together after seeing the Molly statue in Hades's vault.
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Nov 5, 2014 13:15
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A market for svartalve-made cell phones and home computer systems would effectively remove wizards from the rest of the world. Just look at what regular cell phones/etc. do to people.
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poo poo, Molly is curbstomping Winter fae in her sleep and going around ripping up poo poo that Maeve was letting slide. She's fine, if no longer exactly human.
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OptimusWang posted:I could ignore the tug's braid/smooth's dress stuff in WoT far easier than I could the nipple fetish going on when Dresden is narrating. I get that Butcher is illustrating how much of a goon Harry is, but holy poo poo enough already. It's almost as bad as how often Harry talks about how he's always popping an erection over every attractive woman he sees (pants suddenly so many sizes too small, etc.).
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Nov 12, 2014 16:20
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KellHound posted:I share you're compliant about Laurel K Hamiton. I personally would really like books with female leads that don't end up as softcore porn or don't end up with her biggest problem being which guy should she hook up with. But I'm equally frustrated with the Urban Fantasy books where woman is a device or sex kitten or damsel in distress. I liked Libromancer but the main woman/love interest really bothered me. so I haven't checked out the second book. Felix Castor has a succubus as a main character but still better than the way most Urban Fantasy treats their ladies. Eh, the Libriomancer books are taking that character and moving her away from her origins by having the main character write a book about her and basically write her as a tree nymph that has the freedom to choose who she cares about, with the people that care about her reading the book and basically exploiting the magic system of that world to make it so she doesn't have such a terrible background. It still sucks and is somewhat aggravating waiting for it to get to that point, but as of the last book I read it really isn't anywhere near as bad as the first book.
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Nov 18, 2014 21:00
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Also, Twenty Palaces is a pretty cool, if incomplete and never going to be completed, series. Annalise Powliss is pretty loving hardcore.
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Nov 18, 2014 21:23
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I hope Murphy dies when Fix gets around to getting his revenge.
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Nov 19, 2014 00:59
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Shinjobi posted:I suddenly hate how I never thought of that, and hate you for making a small part of me want the same. Somebody hasn't read Side Jobs. There is a story in it where Gard offers Murphy a job with Monoc Securities, with heavy implication that it would be as a Valkyrie.
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Nov 19, 2014 13:27
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Rhymenoserous posted:Murphy killed Maive. Maive killed Lilly. What the gently caress does Fix have to get revenge on? Butcher, Jim (2012-11-27). Cold Days: A Novel of the Dresden Files (p. 513). Roc. Kindle Edition. posted:He snorted. “You joke around . But I can’t help but think that Fix is going to hold you responsible for some of what happened last night,” he said. “He might show up to explain that to you.” “He shows up here, there’s nothing he can do,” I said quietly. “I can take him on neutral ground. Here, it won’t even be a fight.” “Still,” Thomas said. “Out here, alone?” Fix doesn't have to target Murphy directly to end up killing her. Some Pinko Commie fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Nov 19, 2014 |
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Nov 19, 2014 21:54
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I'm pretty sure in Changes that Harry remarks about how he has to re-apply magic to the spells on his duster every few months or so when comparing the Leanansidhe's armor to his own work.
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Nov 21, 2014 13:23
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TenaciousJ posted:I always pictured Kincaid as Brock Samson complete with Patrick Warburton voice. Except for the bit where Brock Samson thinks guns are for pussies. Someone on another forum said the description of Murphy makes them think of Emily Procter, which actually doesn't seem that far off base given some of her actual roles. Father Forthill would be Pete Postlethwaite and Johnny Marcone would be Ray Stevenson.
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ConfusedUs posted:Hey, Tuesday is a hell of a day for urban fantasy. Just FYI. I was re-listening to the Rivers of London audiobooks anyway, so this will be a good week.
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mastajake posted:I looked into the rivers of London series but couldn't find it on audible. A quick Google search told me the title was changed to Midnight Riot in the US. To defend the American renaming a bit, I thought that they didn't want the initial book title to be identical to the name of the book series, which is the way books have been published for decades (I'm honestly not thinking of any book series where the first book title is the same as the series title). Also because the book is about a ghost starting a riot and the river gods and goddesses aren't really the main plot point yet. So, you know, Midnight Riot is the first book of the Rivers of London series. Same as Storm Front is the first book of the Dresden Files. 
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RosaParksOfDip posted:Except when he goes off on awkward tangents like the homosexuality talk. Goddamn was that some terribly ham-fisted poo poo. Harry is a ham-fisted character, though.
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RosaParksOfDip posted:Yeah I meant from the story since the guy said he likes how Butcher brings his morals into his stories. Jim has pretty much said he's intentionally made Harry a goon for most of the series, kind of making him grow up a little in Skin Game.
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Metal Loaf posted:Hello, thread. You've basically listed my top three fantasy authors in reverse order here, so I think when you do the Aaronovitch books you'll love them (and every novel Gaiman writes is basically gold in this genre). Seconding that you should go the Kobna Holdbrook-Smith audiobook route for the Rivers of London books. It's one of the very few instances where the narrator is so awesome that I'd rather listen to him read it than read the book myself. For Gaiman, when you've finished Neverwhere, get American Gods and read it. Then get The Ocean at the End of the Lane and read that. All of his children's stories like The Graveyard Book are pretty fun, too. Stardust is an acquired taste. I loved it, but a lot of people found the ending in the book horrifying (not the actual ending itself, but thinking about what happens to one of the characters that otherwise got the "happy" ending). Gaiman's stuff is mostly one-off books that are self-contained, so you don't need any real advice on which book to read first and can just pick one and have fun. If you like a little bit more horror in your urban fantasy, check out London Falling and it's sequel The Severed Streets.
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Metal Loaf posted:I actually have American Gods on my bedside table at the top of a little pile; I was able to get American Gods, Neverwhere, and the first two Rivers of London books with a book voucher my grandmother gave me for Christmas. Which version did you get, I think there are something like three different editions floating around out there (the newer ones add some things that don't really change the overall story, but add some nice one-liners and context to the rest of the story).
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ConfusedUs posted:I agree with this. To be fair, Peter belongs to Beverly now, and like she said, Peter didn't have the ability to give his word like that any more.
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