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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
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absolem posted:

I'm not though. I have no clue if any native groups owned my land, but I have a pretty good idea that no one else did.

I guess another thing is that poo poo doesn't automatically transfer to your kids. Property can be assumed to be transfered to the kid, but anything else isn't their fault

I always have loved how libertarians get around this stolen property idea by maintain that because you received what was effectively stolen but didn't know it you should be able to keep it. You know like if your dad stole some artwork from a museum, and then he dies you should definitely be able to keep the artwork he stole.

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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

absolem posted:

I'm going to re-say that if someone proves themselves the rightful owner of something I hold, I will honor their claim. However, at the same time I will demand restitution from the person who sold it to me because they broke their implied contract when they asserted that they had the right to sell it. This whole "theres a theoretical person who might own it because his ancestor who could have lived there might have passed it on to him" thing isn't going to cut it. I didn't steal it, they need to prove the claim, since there's been no ongoing aggression on my part.

But if your parents are dead how are you going to be refunded for the land that they stole form the British Monarchy? Because that land is in perpetuity theirs.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

tbp posted:

It doesn't seem terribly inevitable.

Yes a society where the rich dominate entirely and the poor live in squalor is a place that surely will be a testament to order and decorum.

Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 07:37 on May 24, 2014

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