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absolem posted:How the hell am I supposed to give it back to someone I don't even know existed? 
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Pohl posted:What, your thread isn't working out the way you hoped so you are blaming us? What the hell, take some personal responsibility.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:It's worth noting that academic libertarians like Robert Nozick employ side constraints in their theories to prevent someone from monopolizing everything and watching the rest of us suffer; the Lockean Proviso (you aren't allowed to take everything; you have to leave enough, and as good, for others to use) explicitly says that you have other non-property-oriented duties towards others. Nozick also thinks that any good derived from an injustice, no matter how far-removed, is owned unjustly. He literally says this outright; his principle of justice in transfer has some of the same features as logical entailment. Awww man, I was gonna post Nozick you jerk  He pretty much establishes that you can't have property rights that are just if the property was unjustly acquired in any way, no matter how far back you go. The only truly just property rights system involves either 1) redressing all of the past property injustices (essentially impossible) or 2) resetting everyone back to a common starting point (violates his other principles). When I read Anarchy, State and Utopia in college it was the nail in the Libertarian coffin.
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Shibby0709 posted:Respect for the NAP, duh. If they took over a town and enslaved its inhabitants then people would refuse to trade with them, allowing the free market to prevail. It would be a lose-lose for all. As "natural" and fundamental as property rights may seem, the "strong take from the weak" is just as natural. If your political philosophy says that we all must abide by property rights and live non-aggressive or coercive lives, but has no answer for when people don't abide by those rights, then you need to examine why you think this framework was a good idea in the first place.
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Are we playing guess the racist author?
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May 23, 2014 02:29
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SedanChair posted:It's all Hoppe.
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Pohl posted:Where did the OP go? We were having such an interesting conversation and then he just vanished. VitalSigns posted:Turns out, the superiority of the white man can be proved a priori.
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whydirt posted:Oh man, for some reason all the mentions of Hoppe made me think people were just mistyping Hobbes for some reason I couldn't understand. The truth has led to a much more entertaining place.
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