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JustJeff88 posted:Remember, unions are bad because they distort price signals from the glorious free market, so employees should be paid as little as possible, preferably nothing. This is absolutely not grossly exploitative and won't lead to a crisis when no-one can afford to buy anothing and/or they die from lack of basic needs. Unions are ironically libertarian in nature, a free association of sellers forming a sellers cartel in the market for certain categories of labor to improve the price they get. Of course most libertarians in the US are just small businesses fascists who want to go back to a good old boys Jim crow.
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I AM GRANDO posted:It’s weird how today’s racist teens post just like yesterday’s racist grandpas yelled at Thanksgiving. I mean the libertarian party got hollowed out and puppeted by their own rules letting people just immediately join and vote for  . Some rich assholes bought a bunch of freepers memberships and told them exactly how to vote out the non openly racist leadership (and did an almost comically open vote harvesting operation). So racist grandad probably isn't far off from the current average party member, at least on paper.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I just think it is hilarious that an impeachment hearing ended up in this subject and this guy - under oath - responded to "Why did you call a guy marrying two sixteen years olds beautiful and say that discrimination against them is like how the government historically discriminated against black people and native Americans? Also, why did you seek out a pedophile rapist to defend him because you thought it might be a good chance to get polygamy laws struck down???" Ask him about firefighters.
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Sharing is caring? Sounds like commie BS to me. Children gain 30 social credit points for repeating this opinion.
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mojo1701a posted:Yeah, this is like when conservatives discovered the Reign of Terror a few years ago and started using that to justify their opposition to the French Revolution. Y'know, because things were so good under a literal king and absolute monarch. Conservatism overall is a direct reaction to the French revoloution in general, 'how do we keep aristocricy around without being able to just say "My dad was X, im the new X"' Washing the political power through the ascendant economic power. The thing being conserved is always and forever aristocracy. "
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It's not my original idea no. My introduction to this was innuendo studios videos on understanding right Wing ideologies. Endnote 3: The Origins of Conservatism - YouTube And yes the people who invented conservativism were pretty explicit what it was about, preservation of the hierarchical society structure through alterations to its alleged justification. Conservativism is basically just a post hoc justification for saying nothing should change about society, any justification given is drawn from the pre existing conclusion. It's very important to understand this because it helps you understand proving a conservative talking point wrong can't affect the underlying beliefs, because it reversed the causation involved. Talking points are just spam hypotheticals, loosely held and easily replaced with newly generated ideas. Barrel Cactaur fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Nov 2, 2023 |
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VitalSigns posted:Finally a government small enough to fit in every uterus Thread title please
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Note that this is a mandatory position, as it's part of the dumb populist id left over from the collapse of the dictatorship. The UK considers it a self governing overseas territory. Basically it's on the UK security umbrella, everyone is UK citizens, but it's domestic politics are independent. 99% of the population approves of this, because anything else would just get rolled up by gunboat diplomacy. Literally the only good thing conservativism has ever done. Barrel Cactaur fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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hooman posted:It was mentioned before, but the Penn Jilette full quote on leaving libertarianism is actually pretty funny. He finally realized most of the other libertarians were just racist contrarians. Libertarianism got hollowed out during the sagebrush period through Obama admin. It transformed from a loose coalition of groups mostly premised around the idea government power magnified and legitimized social ills to one mostly centered on guns, Jesus, and racism. Mostly this happened because those were the subcultures that could raise funds, get lobbyist backing, or simply refuse to leave. It was a very slow process to go from dozens of flavors of "something is deeply wrong with this country" to the leopards eating faces party in a guy fawkes mask. Everyone who didn't fit got pushed out and mostly went to the more anarchist forms of socialism or just the mainstream version of their subgroup. Right libertarianism is very much a US invention and a relatively recent one. I don't blame anyone who legitimately is more old school in the thinking and still understands the difference between skepticism and contrarianism.
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HootTheOwl posted:The libertarian Card Game is here! Guarantee you that a hyper optimal deck has already been plucked out to flip if they hit it big. Imagine if WOTC was incentivised to do a reglue job on their own products.
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Angry_Ed posted:Reminds me of (I think) a bit in the New Yorker called "Libertarian Police Force" where the main character goes "Home Depot presents: The Police!" https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/l-p-d-libertarian-police-department A classic, especially because libertarians bite unironically at some bits of it.
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Rappaport posted:Russian-born doctors are clearly dangerous, Stalin tried to get rid of them but they got to him first No, but it's the same underlying current. Mental healthcare has always been largely a institution established for and from the perspective of the social elite. Specifically from the mid 1800s to the 1950s it waxed and waned as a tool of social control. Institutionalization and increased criminalization of social non conformity acted as a method by which to impose an elitist social structure, notably, one with men on top ordered from rich to poor. Paving over women's complaints of all variation as hysteria (alongside the overuse of the surgery of the same name and lobotomy against those deemed undesirable because of anything from low perceived intelligence to expressing independence). Permanent imprisonment and effective murder by brain damage was also used, on grounds of incurable insanity, on members of elite families and many critics of society of all genders who actually took action. This early use as a effectively elitist social cudgel permanently tarnished mental healthcare. Combined with a persistent undercurrent that mental health problems were some kind of spiritual deficiency this consolidated into a toxified view of mental health throughout society but especially among the deeply religious, who saw it as fundamentally an evil of modernization dragging people away from religion and deeply harming them. The problem being that this became dogma, and so even as mental healthcare finally shed the 1800s baggage it still got a terrible reputation in culture, not helped by the fact it's much harder to measure outcomes and dispense with pseudoscience in mental healthcare. Mental hygiene generally refers to the dystopian state sponsored mental health system of the 1920s-50s when it was heavily influenced by the eugenics movement. Essentially, germane complaints up until the dismantling of institutionalization, and a cultural fossil afterwards.
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Privatizing the air, if im remembering my  properly, refers to the old common law "from the depths of hell to the gates of heaven" of common law. Libertarians want to have the power to either stop aircraft from flying over their land or charge them rent to do so. This being obviously the least workable thing ever they love it as a concept.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Indentured servitude is the term you're looking for. There was a history in America of people agreeing to work without pay for some period of time, often as as the price of passage over to America. It often gets overlooked between better living conditions, the fact that it was [supposed to be] temporary and voluntary, and the fact that it isn't sociologically relevant in any modern racial power structure. Ford literally tried to run his rubber plantation like a 9-5 factory, with the somewhat experienced tropical farmers he recruited almost literally begging to run it on a crepuscular schedule 1. Because heatstroke and 2 because rubber trees maximal sap pressure is in the very early morning. 3. Because it takes about 4 hours for the sap to actually flow. Also he managed to be just in time for rubber blight.
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