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Someone has compared the new book to the old one. There are 6 new pages of rules content. 6.
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ghetto wormhole posted:There are 4 pages on super heavy vehicles alone so that 6 pages thing is definitely bullshit. I guess maybe you wouldn't call that all new rules but still it's new to the BRB. That stuff was in the escalation so I dont think he's considering that new rules. From reading what hes written, its literally the psychic phase and all the additional stuff in the USR's that wasnt in the previous versions. A lot of it is almost a direct C&P from the last book/supplements.
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May 23, 2014 19:15
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The smash attack reduction is directly a result of the flying circus daemon prince lists. Same for Swooping MC's being unable to charge on the turn they land.
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May 24, 2014 21:45
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Who even takes flamers in squads when you can have a plasma/melta gun too?
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May 26, 2014 17:04
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:I guess someone planning on facing Orks? Well yeah but your typical army would still be better off with Plasma guns. Even against Orks since they will smash their transports up at the opposite side of the table, not do 2-3 wounds once they're in assault range.
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May 26, 2014 17:13
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Daedleh posted:The MANz look like repaints of the existing ones. From what we've heard (from the same source who first described the Gorkamorkanaughts), the new MANz are a complete redesign. If there were brand new Mega Nobz, they wouldnt be using old ones in pictures with this model.
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May 26, 2014 17:43
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All of the FAQ's are up. http://www.blacklibrary.com/faqs-and-errata.html
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May 27, 2014 16:44
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SRM posted:"Q. How do I determine the arc of sight for a Heldrake's ranged weapon? Means its not a turret now. Significant nerf for the Helldrake.
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May 27, 2014 17:09
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Lungboy posted:That's it. GW nerfed Flamers massively after everyone had rushed out and bought every flamer they could lay their hands on. GH is suggesting he not rush out and buy a shitload of Horrors. That never stops being funny though. Its what power gamers deserve.
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May 27, 2014 22:20
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Lungboy posted:Don't be daft! He was if you were awful at 40k! I loved my Draigo and Crowe army.
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May 27, 2014 22:33
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People still bitch about Draigo being OP, when he wasn't even OP to begin with.
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Tequila Ranger posted:The old Grey Knight Hammerhand power explicitly could be stacked, can the new +2 Str Sanctic Hammerhand stack as well? Nemesis Halberds being S8 AP3 hitting at Init 6 sounds hilarious. They FAQ'd that Hammerhand couldn't be stacked back in 5th edition. So no, the new one cant stack. serious gaylord fucked around with this message at 07:54 on May 28, 2014 |
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May 28, 2014 07:51
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AbusePuppy posted:And FAAC chumps deserve to get their poo poo kicked in time after time by competent players who actually know the rules of the game. Why do you always assume that people that don't want to be min max rules lawyering dicks don't know the rules nor how to play? You get so mad about people not wanting to break the game to their advantage. Maybe you need a break?
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May 28, 2014 08:46
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AbusePuppy posted:In your case? Because of the passive-aggressive, snippy things you constantly say about competitive players. I know I'm not the only one who finds it incredibly tiresome. And how does that translate to 'not knowing how to play the game'? I know how to play. Fix clearly knows the rules too yet he's quite happy to bring a 'sub optimal wtf why would you do that?' fortification to his games. I think you just don't understand why people wouldn't want to be dicks to other people.
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May 28, 2014 09:18
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Fix posted:Seriously, I just hate guardsmen and like to watch them die. Sounds like you should be in charge of a lot of them then!
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May 28, 2014 09:42
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Naramyth posted:Knowing the rules and understanding how the game plays out are two different things. Why do you have this pathological need to prove you're superior to anyone that doesn't play the game like you do?
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May 28, 2014 16:45
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Naramyth posted:I'm not trying to prove anything. I want a skilled community to play in. If the bottom level gets better we all get better. There you go again. Just because they don't run the latest metagame list doesn't mean they're the bottom of the barrel skill wise.
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May 28, 2014 17:00
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Naramyth posted:Fine. Not skill. Challenge. I've played lovely players with awesome lists, I've played awesome players with lovely lists. I want everyone to be awesome players with awesome lists. And if the bottom of the challenge barrel gets better we all get better, both in lists and in skill. I think this is where you confusion is. You seem to equate casual players as people who 'Don't know what they're doing, and when told otherwise their ego stops them from listening to me and thus being a better player.' You also seem to think that 'casual' players seem to think they deserve to win because they've spent money on the models they have. This is where you're going wrong. Sometimes a casual player wont listen when you tell them that Assault Squads are awful and they should really be running grav gun bikes for the same points, not because their ego is too big, nor because they feel they've spent this money and thus their unit will be good no matter what, but because they really really like Space Marines with Jetpacks. They're not listening to you because you're wandering up to them and saying 'Oh hey you know this thing that you really like, that thing you started the army entirely to have? Its poo poo, throw it in the bin and get this instead if you want to win. See ya.' These are the people that wont have boxes of models sat gathering dust because they're not 'optimal'. They'll be dug out and thrown on the board. And another thing. You seem to think that just because those guys at the bottom tables hadnt won anything they were 'play for fun guys'. Have you ever stopped to consider that they're a win at all costs type and they're just really really bad at the game? And thats why they were so depressed? I know I wouldn't go to a tournament purely because I know I'd play at least 2 games against identikit top tier lists where the only difference is the guy rolling the dice. I'm pretty sure its an opinion held by many other people that view the game the same as me.
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May 28, 2014 19:50
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". The guy had not won a game and I could hear the defeat in his voice. And yeah, he may have been having a certain value of fun but I know, loving know that he would have been having objectively more fun if he won a game or three.
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I had to do an inventory of my stuff for the house insurance since they would never believe how much I had if it burned down. The value of the display cabinet was terrifying, never mind the cases full of stuff I have.
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Jun 6, 2014 21:19
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Ghost Hand posted:I took video of my gaming room and the stuff in it for this purpose. That video is stored off site. The poor missus had to explain to the sales man that I have a problem.
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Jun 6, 2014 21:33
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The Gate posted:Because people complained while still buying mountains of stuff anyway. It's not like GW ever showed even a hint of listening to or responding to customer complaints about anything other than damaged or missing product. If they're not going to take customer feedback, they don't really need to maintain the sort of relationship Facebook, a forum, Twitter, etc provide. It's just wasted effort for them. I've always found it a bit interesting that Forgeworld get a pass on their prices because they're a 'luxury', despite the entire game being a 'luxury' to begin with.
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Jun 9, 2014 13:47
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I kind of figured they had a lose lose situation going on. Every social page they've ever had was overrun with idiots who didnt play, paint or buy anything from GW anymore whos sole existence was to just poo poo on every announcement and bitch and whinge until the thing was inevitably deleted. It just gave a false legitimacy to the 'loads of people hate x' crowd, because the same 4 people would be commenting and commenting. You'd have people on other forums using this as a true indicator that 'everyone hates centurions/wraithknights/etc' when it was just a bunch of sad lonely losers. So the way GW probably saw it was 'We post stuff about peoples models, comments are overrun with poo poo about prices. We post new stuff, comments are overrun with price chat. Why bother?' They shut their main page down and that did massively reduce the amount of poo poo flinging. People are less likely to troll their local store page after all, but it still continued. Anyone that saw a Warhammer world post would see it turned into idiot central too. I dont think its negatively impacted how many people buy their stuff, and an argument could be made that its helped them by removing the cancerous monkeys so it does actually make sense from their point of view.
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Jun 9, 2014 14:08
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TheChirurgeon posted:We get it--You really don't like seeing people complain about Games Workshop, and I get that you'd rather see content in say, this thread, but it hardly means that their concerns are illegitimate. And it's far more likely that GW shut down those pages so they wouldn't have to pay a community manager, not because it would cut down on any kind of negative feedback--those people will complain elsewhere, just as loudly. It will probably negatively impact future growth though, since it removes what was essentially a very cheap channel for advertising, which is pretty important when the only channels they appear to currently have are White Dwarf, which you can't subscribe to, their website, which is awful, and internet rumor sites, where they can't control the content or message. If you genuinely think that the people who were commenting on an article about someone's armies on parade entry with such gems as 'It'd be nice if I could ever afford to have that collection.' and 'Finecash lololol' are worthwhile then you are being intentionally obtuse.
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Jun 9, 2014 16:12
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SRM posted:Yeah, they don't compare to new stuff. The Dark Eldar that came out a few years ago are leaps and bounds better, and their sculpts aren't old enough to drive. It's might seem surprising that most of the old Eldar plastics still hold up, but, well, Jes Goodwin. I see no problem with those Catachans.
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Jun 9, 2014 16:15
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TheChirurgeon posted:Again, like I just said, in the post that you quoted an exerpt from, having an article does not mean enabling comments or allowing feedback (see also: Wizards daily content). Who's being obtuse here? GW post youtube videos with commenting disabled. This led to people going on their facebook and bitching about not being able to comment on a youtube video, often in some totally unrelated post just because that was at the top of their page. I distinctly remember a facebook post just linking to their daily blog, which featured some guys Grey Knight army, not a staff member, just someone who sent in some pictures, having 400+ comments after a poo poo flinging match started over the price of the Stormravens he had. My point against you was that you seemed to think every comment is worthwhile. My point was that it got to the stage on the GW facebook page where you had a group of people whos entire intention was not to actually discuss anything, but try to derail any post into price/finecast chat. That was probably a major reason why it was nixed. Their pages served no purpose anymore.
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Jun 9, 2014 16:32
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TheChirurgeon posted:No, I don't think every comment is worthwhile, just like I said in my post that you didn't read. My exact words around comments and feedback were "the bulk of which will be worthless outside of a market research context." You're utterly failing to grasp the point I'm making. GW felt that their facebook pages were pointless, due in large part to the fact they were constantly hijacked by dick wads. They then removed these pages as they didnt feel it was worth the hassle of managing them. Clearly bigger companies have the budget to do this. But please, continue to add hyperbole because someone on the internet doesn't agree with you.
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Jun 9, 2014 16:50
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Post 9-11 User posted:GW says that plastic molds cost a million billion Buckazoids but they make stuff like Space Hulk a limited run, release one-time-only plastic minis for their conventions, and so on. It's pure trash. They make production run models out of steel moulds as they last longer, but are much more expensive to tool as steel is a very hard metal to cut. The limited edition stuff is done in aluminium. Breaks down a lot quicker but is easier to tool so it costs lest to set up.
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Jun 21, 2014 23:18
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I'd go with a khaki/cream colour.
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Jul 1, 2014 14:56
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Updated Grey Hunters pack or are those the new starter models? Either way MY WALLET.
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Jul 6, 2014 09:44
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I've just put a thread up on SA mart to clear my shameful level of new stuff I'm never going to get rid of which was highlighted when I moved and I had to try and explain that it wasnt a colossal waste of money. Theres bits and pieces for pretty much a lot of armies here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3648492
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Jul 6, 2014 17:57
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SRM you still remain and will probably always be, my favourite miniature painter on this forum.Hot Dog Day #82 posted:I guess this may be a question better suited for the painting thread but, well, here goes! About how long did it take you guys to learn how to paint your plastic mans half respectably? I've painted the walls of my house before but nothing so small and detailed as one of these guys! I've been painting seriously for about a decade.
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Jul 6, 2014 19:15
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This is the only army I've ever finished. It contains 26 models. 3 of which are tanks.                
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Jul 6, 2014 21:49
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SRM posted:Them's some good lookin Grey Knights, but god drat that mud is awesome. The weathering on the troops is good but the mud stuck to those tank treads looks so right, like the Grey Knights were called to fight on a daemon world made entirely of chocolate cake. Cheers. That was my first attempt at any kind of weathering.
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Jul 6, 2014 22:00
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I have some 2nd edition Orks and Gretchin knocking around somewhere.
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Jul 6, 2014 22:19
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I'd like to thank you goons for taking my stuff so I stop getting shouted at for taking up too much space in the house.
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Jul 6, 2014 22:38
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Post 9-11 User posted:I don't play Fantasy and have too many unpainted kits in backlog as it is, but I feel your pain. "Too much? I tried to sell some of it, but the market fell out! No, they're actually quite valuable, I can't just give them away! No, it's not like the baseball card fallout!" To be fair, some of that stuff I've had for so long its almost doubled in price.
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Jul 6, 2014 22:58
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£80 for poo poo you wouldnt use in any of those armies. Rubbish.
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Jul 7, 2014 17:45
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It would make sense to use the full kits as a hastily thrown together slapdash new starter set. No time or money to waste on new sprues. It will be awful for what its meant to do though. You know, start someone in this awful hobby of ours. That amount of customisation and level of building needed will turn away more than it will entice.
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Jul 7, 2014 20:55
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Tuxedo Jack posted:Its been openly discussed for months in these threads. Who cares? I care since several of my friends work for GW and Forge world. Not to mention everytime it gets brought up Winson tells you all to shut up about it.
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Jul 13, 2014 09:29
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Lungboy posted:The internet loves inventing issues with GW where there's none there, which is daft as GW do plenty of legitimately lovely things to get angry about. They also play test their rules pretty extensively, which makes me chuckle because they're still always so full of holes.
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NTRabbit posted:Play testing your own rules is the problem, because you're only ever going to see and play them how you wrote them in your head, it takes testers external to the writers to find and report on the flaws Its not the writers that test them. More or less everyone big into gaming at their hq will play a new version.
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