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AndyElusive posted:Also that OSL on that Librarians palm is giving me ideas on what to do with a Necron Lord I converted to have a similar (but inferior) out stretched hand pose. The OSL is easy...so long as you have an airbrush. SRM posted:Slimnoid, those Deathwing are baller. The caution stripes are a great touch, and really give the army some good contrast. The caution stripe is really just to help differentiate squads, though over time I've grown fond of calling them TEAM gently caress SAFETY and ram them into the most dangerous things possible. They usually die in the process, but not before they fist-gently caress whatever they decided needed to die
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May 24, 2014 00:59
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As many detachments as you want, eh?quote:Librarian (ML2) - 90 500pts per, 2k on the nose. gently caress everything.
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May 24, 2014 14:24
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Infinite Karma posted:If someone actually builds 12 Thunderfire Cannons, they deserve a win (not that this list would win). Lemme tell you about Mantic. Post 9-11 User posted:Why not a Master Of The Forge or two? More shooting, Fortify Defenses, et cetera. Librarian can toss out Divination as needed so some of the TFC's become more accurate, or Misfortune to deal with tough armor/high saves. Plus, with 12 techmarines on the board, there's no need for more fortifying.
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May 24, 2014 16:30
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Dagon posted:Open-Topped Transports Only applies to open-topped too, so no scorching dudes in rhinos I guess. panascope posted:Can generic Librarians roll on Divination? They can now. 
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May 24, 2014 19:00
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xtothez posted:Nope, that's only ticked because Tigurius can take Divination. Other librarians have to roll on the other four instead. So by that logic, Divination is only on CSM because of a single relic in a supplemental codex.
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May 24, 2014 19:23
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ijyt posted:I'd love to hear the reasoning for some of the changes in 7th. Because 
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May 24, 2014 21:43
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Direwolf posted:Unbound + my existing silly/fluffy Iyanden list + that silly Eldar haul I got last weekend = That one poor Wraithlord has had one too many spirits.
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May 25, 2014 03:51
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Grey Knight Rhinos are considered ML1 psykers and have access to Sanctis. Hilarious.
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May 25, 2014 14:46
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raverrn posted:Are the FAQs out and I missed them, or...? Nope. But going by the Grey Knight codex, all rhinos have the Psychic Pilot rule, which makes them a Mastery Level 1 psyker. All GK have access to Sanctis, going by the index card from the psychic card set.
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May 25, 2014 17:39
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AndyElusive posted:Whatever. I like gaming and I loathe other people’s drama, and I find that mixed gaming groups tend to have way more drama than male-only groups and that drama tends to make gaming groups explode, which is why I’ve run so many unfinished campaigns. The drama really gets in the way of the gaming. In fact, I’ve been getting way more into wargaming and getting away from RPGs just because there’s so much less drama with the almost entirely male wargaming scene. drat those women and their drama.
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May 25, 2014 19:59
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Hollismason posted:You automatically get your gods Primaris for free, then you have to roll once on the chart then you can roll on other charts. Getting the free Primaris doesn't satisfy the requirement that you have to roll. That sounds pretty spergy. You have to generate at least one power from the God-based disciplines, and getting the Primaris seems good enough to me. Maybe they'll address it in the FAQ. Dump_Stat posted:Do CSMs get any sort of an edge with summoning Daemons? Not really. Daemon Princes and Sorcerers with the Daemonheart relic don't explode on any doubles, but otherwise Daemons summon Daemons far better than anyone else.
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May 26, 2014 04:03
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Cataphract posted:it appears to be temporary. I just read the "choosing your army" chapter and my mind is boggled. It seems even a "battle forged" army can take multiple "combined arms detachments" and, from my reading, they don't necessarily need to be from the same codex... what is going on? this chapter is so flippping confusing. I tried rereading it twice now and yeah, I'm similarly confused. If you can take multiple detachments from different codices, what's the point of allies?
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May 26, 2014 15:33
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Hollismason posted:Actually the Heldrake still does it's crazy Vector Strike thing, cause it's a special rule in it's Codex. Just like CCB in Necron still gets the Sweep Attack even though that was removed from Chariots. Heldrake's Meteoric Descent special rule just lets them do a Vector Strike while zooming, and the attack is resolved at S7. Otherwise it follows all the rules for a Vector Strike, which means it's only 1 attack against ground targets. serious gaylord posted:Who even takes flamers in squads when you can have a plasma/melta gun too? People who load them up in drop pods/DS/vendettas I guess? I suppose you could load up a Sternguard squad with combi-flamers/heavy flamer in a drop pod if you really want to get rid of an infantry unit, but it'd be kind of pointless all things considered. Slimnoid fucked around with this message at 17:07 on May 26, 2014 |
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May 26, 2014 17:27
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:S6 3d6, RIP fire warriors forever Ballistic Skill 2. Sykic posted:Not a super-heavy walker, looking forward to immobilising/exploding it in the first turn. God dammit.
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May 26, 2014 17:35
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Daedleh posted:Disappointing then. They still look as static as the old models... Kind of hard to make an ork nob with metal literally bolted onto their flesh as anything other than static.
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May 26, 2014 18:06
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Old paint job time.        I did this guy up about...3 years ago, I wanna say. Maybe two, I dunno. Recently I went back to him and redid his sword because I hated the old garish lightning job I did on it, going over with liquid silver and adding some blood splatters here and there to freshen it up. This was one of my first attempts at non-metal metallics, and it's a bit too yellow for my taste; if tasked with doing this again I'd either skip out on the NMM, or do it with some glazes. Originally used for someone's Blood Angels army, and who gave it back to me a few months ago because he didn't want to keep it around anymore. Slimnoid fucked around with this message at 23:06 on May 26, 2014 |
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May 26, 2014 22:35
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Ghost Hand posted:Unless it specifically states it is NEVER scoring. (Not sure if scarabs say this or not). Scoring Units posted:Any unit can be a scoring unit, unless: Swarms posted:If, when allocating Wounds to a unit with the Swarms special rule, two or more models could be chosen as the closest enemy, the closest enemy is always the model with the least number of Wounds. If a model with the Swarm special rule suffers an unsaved Wound from a Blast (any size) or Template weapon, each unsaved Wound is multiplied to two unsaved Wounds unless that Wound has the Instant Death special rule. However, a unit entirely composed of models with the Swarm special rule is not slowed by difficult terrain, but must test for Dangerous Terrain as normal. So yeah, swarms can score. Anything can score UNLESS it's from the above list, or it says in their entry (ex. Death Company).
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May 27, 2014 16:45
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SRM posted:"Q. How do I determine the arc of sight for a Heldrake's ranged weapon? Whoa that's gonna piss a lot of people off.
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May 27, 2014 17:08
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serious gaylord posted:Means its not a turret now. Significant nerf for the Helldrake. This, combined with the changes to Vector Strikes, might mean less Heldrakes all around. The only reason people really took them was when the Baleflamer was a turret weapon and d3+1 S7 vector strikes.
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May 27, 2014 17:11
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TheChirurgeon posted:It's colossally stupid--Heldrakes are now no longer able to move their heads left to right, despite having a lengthy neck! Well you see GW has figured that they've sold all the Heldrake units they ever will so the best idea is to nerf them so people have to buy bikers or spawn  Nah but honestly it could have just been a solid 180-degree arc like walkers and I would've been fine with that. The previous 360-degree turret arc was dumb, but this might be a bit too much.
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May 27, 2014 18:04
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AbusePuppy posted:"HEY. HEY PUNY HUMAN. I CHALLENGE YOU TO SINGLE COMBAT. JUST YOU, ME, AND A ROBOT THE SIZE OF A SKYSCRAPER."  Edit:  
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May 27, 2014 18:30
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CyberLord XP posted:Transport capacity: 6 Orks aren't gonna do poo poo. Maybe you could do some silly stuff with Burnas/Lootas and take a mek or two to let it live longer but without it being an assault vehicle and having no access points the guys inside it are pretty worthless. Plus it's a walker so it's the slowest transport ever. I see people sticking 6 burnaz in the Morkanaut, 3 of which are meks, as well as take the KFF and grot riggers so it's sporting a 5+ invuln, IWND, and repairs immobilized/weapon destroyed on a 4+ up to 3 times. It's not necessarily GOOD, mind you. Actually, looking at Lootas/Burnaz, it'd be kind of cool if a lot more Ork units could take a mek or two for free. Like even just plain ol' Shoota/Slugga Boyz.
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May 27, 2014 20:05
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CyberLord XP posted:I liked this idea too, then I realized that it's now costing 390 points for a REALLY tough model that is still slow and weak offensively. That's why I said it wasn't very good Hm. Maybe Orks will get their own disciplines, and one of them might boost vehicles. Maybe giving walkers extra speed? That'd be pretty orky. Actually wait, they get Daemonology. Stick a Wyrdboy in there and hope you roll Gate of Infinity.
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May 27, 2014 20:20
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AbusePuppy posted:It does not. Gate ONLY moves the psyker and their unit, and your transport (dedicated or not) is not your unit. In fact, you can't even CAST powers while inside a transport, so it's rather a moot consideration. Just found out that little caveat too, though you can cast powers--provided they are witchfire, and provided there's a fire point to shoot out of.
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May 27, 2014 21:54
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Naramyth posted:I'm not trying to prove anything. I want a skilled community to play in. If the bottom level gets better we all get better. serious gaylord posted:There you go again. Just because they don't run the latest metagame list doesn't mean they're the bottom of the barrel skill wise. Oh just gently caress already, you two. The sexual tension is getting ridiculous.
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May 28, 2014 17:24
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PierreTheMime posted:Continuing to progress through my large supply of Space Marine bodies. I might have a painted Salamanders army eventually! Considering they were my second army I started it's a little shameful it's taken me this long to get around to them.  The rims of each base could use some touch-up, though. That and drilling your barrels.
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May 28, 2014 18:13
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Panzeh posted:The thing is, so many people want so many different things out of the game. I mean, do you keep the same scale(in terms of figure counts, a significant change from 2nd to 3rd ed), the bucket of dice mechanics? Do you have alternating activations, individual unit activations, or do you keep the sequential phase system? Or do you do something different. At that point we may as well just make a whole new ruleset from the ground up. Lungboy posted:Have an actual move stat, so different races are intrinsically faster or slower, without the need to bolt on extra rules. Turn fleet back to assault after running, and take it off most stuff. etc. They ditched the move stat in the transition to 3rd to help streamline things. I'm not sure bringing it back would be the hottest idea (we already sorta have it with infantry moving 6" and bikes moving 12"). I'd be fine with army-wide rules altering things a little though, like said Eldar adding +1" to move, or just the ability to Run faster.
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May 28, 2014 20:49
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xtothez posted:Anyone doing this needs to read through the Epic: Armageddon rules first. That's a great example of tight design that gradually scales up in complexity to larger games. The game was intended for competitive play, so the emphasis is more on what you do rather than what units you pick. That way everything has a role. This. E:A is a super tight set of rules that works really well for what it is, and 40k as a whole could learn a lot from it.
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May 28, 2014 21:43
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http://www.blacklibrary.com/faqs-and-errata.html Space Wolf and BA updated; BA doesn't have anything marked on magenta so I dunno if anything actually got changed, but Runic Weapons did. Now it's just +1 to Deny the Witch. Psychic Cards got a PDF which just changes Banishment to WC1, to match the book.
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May 30, 2014 13:35
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Lungboy posted:The Runic Weapon change is just correcting an error by the looks of it. The original FAQ removed the line about Runic Weapons being force weapons instead of the line about nullifying on a 4+. It puts them at being a 4+ to DtW anyway, which is still pretty decent. Possibly a 3+ if their ML is higher (which is rarely going to happen).
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May 30, 2014 15:48
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Tuxedo Jack posted:Half of the drop pods drop on turn one, so that's not an issue. Also, Deathwing armies can decide to all arrive on turn 1 OR 2, so there's that. Which is a minor boost for DW players.
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May 30, 2014 16:18
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Tuxedo Jack posted:If you have no models on the table at the end of any turn, you lose, though. GAME turn, not PLAYER turn. With Deathwing Assault, you could decide to keep an entire army of Terminators in reserve and deploy them on turn 1, possibly denying the opposing army a whole turn of shooting. Obviously you'd have to decide to do all this poo poo on turn 1, otherwise yeah you auto-lose.
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May 30, 2014 16:27
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jng2058 posted:Unless you've seeded the board with a few token units, preferably long range shooters like Thunderfires or Devastators. Man I WISH Dark Angels got Thunderfire Cannons. Instead we have lovely flyers and overpriced specialist units 
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May 30, 2014 16:36
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PierreTheMime posted:Live the dream and field another army on the side. The ML2 Librarian, two MSU Scouts, and 3x Thunderfire Cannons is a pretty solid 500pt add-on, just don't go overboard with it. With three Techmarines, three of the ruins (likely all you need) on your end can be +1 cover. Sniper rifles and camo-cloaks (for 2+ cover save) would be a solid anti-MC unit and the TFCs would shred pretty much all infantry while you wait for your scoring Terminators to drop in and murder everything else. Considering I'm working on a Sons of Medusa army on the side, you make a compelling argument.
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So on the plus side, they went down in points, dedicated transport option, more shots on their guns, no gets hot, possibility for BS3 if they don't move, and can reroll a single charge dice. On the negative side, no S6, no ignore cover, their save got worse (6+ from a 4+), and no options beyond ammo runts. No painboy, no cybork bodies, nuttin'. So what will end up happening, is that unless you stick their happy asses in a fortification or something, they will most likely cruise around in a battlewagon firing unreliable AP weapons and never get to use their BS3, making them expensive shoota boyz that might shred something important if said target is somehow out in the open. Seems a bit of a wash so far.
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They're on 40mm bases despite not being bulky. Why.
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