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serious gaylord posted:Someone has compared the new book to the old one. There are 6 new pages of rules content. 6. Where can I find this comparison?
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They gave fortifications hull points. Of course they did. And they fixed the discrepancy between buildings and vehicles so melta/haywire/armorbane work against buildings now. Fix fucked around with this message at 21:33 on May 23, 2014 |
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May 23, 2014 21:23
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LordLobo posted:If you have the new book, please confirm: Yeah, when it's your turn you roll a single D6. Both sides get that many dice in their pool, plus one for every mastery level in your army. Then when you want to cast, you declare your target, pull out as many dice from your pool as you want, and roll them. For every 4+ you roll, you get a Warp Charge. If you have enough Warp Charges for the level of the spell, it goes off. If you didn't get enough Warp Charges, it fails. If you roll 2 or more 6's it passes. Deny the witch cancels out one warp charge for every 6 rolled. +1 on that roll for psykers, psykers with higher mastery, and adamantium will. If you deny them equal to or more warp charges than they successfully harness Note that now you can Deny the Witch on abilities that are not targeting you. You just don't get those bonuses to the roll (so always on a 6). So yes, you can deny them their blessings. Also, you cannot cast psychic abilities on a unit in a transport. Even if you are doing it to your own from inside. You can only cast witchfire from inside, and only through a fire point. edit: Nope, I'm wrong about the meaning of Harness there. You have to wipe out all of their Warp Charges to DTW. Fix fucked around with this message at 22:04 on May 23, 2014 |
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May 23, 2014 21:55
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I see they have fixed the rules about assaulting and shooting between rooms in a multi-part building by just excluding them, so that's pretty fantastic. 
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May 23, 2014 22:31
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ijyt posted:Could you expand on that? I'm not familiar with it. It used to be that you could shoot into an adjacent room and assault the unit in there. You would remove casualties and retreat into the room from which you came unless you wiped them out. Now you just treat each room as individual transport models, but there's no firing ports between rooms or anything, and you can't assault like that. So now, you wipe out a unit in one room (by shooting flamethrowers in through the fire points, though it seems like they might have taken out the rules where you could chuck grenades into a building), gain access via the door, and then just stand there looking at the unit in the next room over but unable to do anything to them.
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May 23, 2014 22:41
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WhiteOutMouse posted:Questions! Move Through Cover posted:A unit that contains at least one model with this special rule rolls an extra D6 when rolling to move through difficult terrain and is not slowed by charging through difficult terrain. In most circumstances, this will mean that , when moving, the unit rolls 3d6 and picks the highest roll. Furthermore, a model with the Move Through Cover special rule automatically passes Dangerous Terrain tests. It does not appear that there is any change to the initiative penalty. Fix fucked around with this message at 23:11 on May 23, 2014 |
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May 23, 2014 22:58
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LordAba posted:But initiative is the speed or order in which you strike in close combat. Ergo, vis-a-vis not being slowed by charging through terrain, you can strike at the same initiative order! I'm sure this isn't serious, but just in case there needs to be any clarification here, there is a bolded part in the section called Charging Through Difficult Terrain that reads: quote:if at least one model in the charging unit moved through difficult terrain as part of its charge move, all of the unit's models must attack at Initiative step 1 regardless of other Initiative modifiers, even if the charging unit is not slowed by difficult terrain.
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May 24, 2014 00:12
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Hey, what was the chariot that had all the problems?
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May 24, 2014 00:33
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Pacheeco posted:The Burning Chariot because the passenger fires the weapons (as opposed to the actual Chariot firing them) and they are both Heavy and one is a Template so if the Chariot moves at all the passenger is unable to shoot one and has to snap fire the other. The only way to fix this is to make the passenger Relentless or move the weapons to part of the Chariot's weaponry. Shooting with chariots posted:When determining the required To Hit roll for any weapons fired by a Chariot model, use the Ballistic Skill on the Chariot's profile for any weapons mounted on the Chariot itself, and the Ballistic Skill on the rider's profile for any weapons wielded by the rider. In addition to the Chariot's weapons shooting, the rider can shoot any shooting weapon he himself is equipped with, counting as stationary even if the Chariot moved in the previous movement phase-the Chariot and rider must target the same unit though.
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May 24, 2014 00:42
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Saalkin posted:Now that we've done away with the FOC, next in 8th edition dropping points altogether too! Don't want those bean counters getting in the way of this sweet-assed narrative.
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May 24, 2014 02:19
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Good, he pointed out the change to deployment order. e: this is wrong. Fix fucked around with this message at 03:25 on May 24, 2014 |
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May 24, 2014 03:18
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Saalkin posted:Really? That sounds retarded. Wait. No, I got that wrong. You can choose to set up first and go second. Not nearly as good.
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May 24, 2014 03:24
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So Germ just pointed out to me that the Aegis line is gone from this book, which means that if you want one you have to get it from the Stronghold book which is…eh... not exactly the best-written collection of clean rules in the universe. For example, there's now technically no limit to the number of quad guns you can buy for one.
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May 24, 2014 03:40
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ThNextGreenLantern posted:If my opponent makes me go first, can I roll a d6 to Reject the Initiative? On a 6 you take a nap.
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May 24, 2014 03:43
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LordAba posted:Unless I miss something, you can only take one battlement & battlefield per fortification, so no you can't take unlimited quad guns. Stronghold Assault works really well IMO. I'm losing my freakin mind over here, I swear to god. I saw the limits on Buildings but couldn't find it for not-buildings and it's right there. Ugh.
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May 24, 2014 03:54
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MasterSlowPoke posted:I just realized that Chaos Knights are finally a thing now. Are they? Are knights not lumped in with forces of the imperium?
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May 24, 2014 07:19
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Looks like the usual to me.
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May 24, 2014 07:56
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7thBatallion posted:Did you search by newly listed? Always do. My bookmark filters to things posted in the last two hours.
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May 24, 2014 08:30
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SRM posted:Was wound allocation changed in any way, aside from spillover from challenges? I haven't seen much about it is all so I wasn't sure. It's pretty much the same, except for a few cases where they introduce wounding a random model, like when a vehicle explodes. It's not bad for most things, but if someone sticks a flamer through my fortification window now I've got to figure out how to randomly assign a bunch of hits to 30 models whereas before they sorta forged the narrative for you a little.
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May 24, 2014 08:33
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There are two or three things about this book thus far that have struck me as plain lazy.
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May 24, 2014 08:39
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Yeah, but to their credit they made vehicle explosions less common? I dunno, man. Even the whole "shoot with each weapon type at a time" thing is pretty eeeehhhh….
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May 24, 2014 08:43
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BULBASAUR posted:Isn't the 'edition' entirely unlabeled? Then why are we even calling it 7th edition? It's like saying Dawn of War: Soulstorm = Dawn of War 2. poo poo's just an update folks. Because in doing so we can easily compare it to previous versions and know when changes were made without having to linguistically dance around a lot? What's wrong with version control?
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May 24, 2014 09:26
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The example of Citadel-only scenery rules in this book has a particular other close-to-home example. Recall that a little while ago our own goon Germ was selling vehicle explosion markers via a kickstarter campaign. Guess what doesn't exist anymore? When Chimera explode now, they do so so completely that they don't even leave a crater behind anymore. Thanks, GW, for sticking it to a man!
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May 24, 2014 09:44
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Moola posted:Random allocation is terrible. You should totally ignore it and use the old 'just choose who dies' system. Definitely this.
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May 24, 2014 19:06
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Why would you want a set of cards per player? I thought you weren't allowed to have duplicate objectives.
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May 25, 2014 00:02
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MasterSlowPoke posted:
Everybody deploys a foot away because Kharn's driving.
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May 25, 2014 00:43
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BuffaloChicken posted:Wouldn't normally be spamming up such WIP models, but these Squats were made possible by some goons so I wanted to share. Ayup, kinda dope.
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May 25, 2014 04:02
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BuffaloChicken posted:My brother just texted me a photo of his WIP terrain piece using the plasma globe. I'll share it here when he has more progress. My only regret is that your guys' stuff is going to outshine my own so spectacularly.
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May 25, 2014 04:08
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AgentF posted:This is the truth. All y'all who've bought the 7E rulebook are fools (or millionaires for whom money means nothing). Temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
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May 25, 2014 08:49
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Are you really that peeved by someone using proxies in a "let's test the upper limit" list two days after the edition drops? This is worth raising a stink on facebook. Oh what a stink shall be raised.
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May 25, 2014 18:47
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AndyElusive posted:Is that vomit magnetized? Ayup.
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May 26, 2014 01:02
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Grey knights were designed for 6th, iirc. They had non-independent characters and brotherhood of psykers and all kinds of things that seemed strange at the time.
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May 26, 2014 06:50
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HiveCommander posted:If only Tyranids were designed for 7th, they came out only 4 months before the new edition and if anything, they have a ton of stuff that makes less sense in 7th ed. It's not a case of Necrons having heavy vehicles with no rules for them or special snowflake wound allocation when using a certain character's weapon. At this point Tyranid players should basically just flip the table over every game and declare it random wound allocation.
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May 26, 2014 07:09
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Could the psychic vehicles also then shoot in the shooting phase? Seems like the return of the henchmen (psykers) in razorbacks. Vortex and psycannon sounds all right.
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May 26, 2014 07:46
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Holy poo poo that's rad.
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May 26, 2014 18:27
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Sephyr posted:Since I'd rather not brave the whinefest of DakkaDakka, thought I'd ask here: Revenant Titan. 900 points. The only thing Chaos has is the Lord of Skulls.
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May 27, 2014 00:57
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TheChirurgeon posted:What about Chaos Warhound Titans? Not in Escalation. Neither is the Loyalist one, though unless I've gone completely blind (this is possible). Never mind, found the Forgeworld list of additional Lords of War: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/L/lordsofwar.pdf Fix fucked around with this message at 01:40 on May 27, 2014 |
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May 27, 2014 01:34
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Rulebook Heavily posted:I'm just glad Striking Scorpions can fit into DE Raiders now. I don't think so. Not Dedicated Transports, anyhow.
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May 27, 2014 06:26
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I just wish they could have given us one single example of even an experimental detachment that would have made this design worth the iteration, but no they goddamn don't. It's so full of hope and promise, but literally nothing else of substance, kinda like the last two years of allies.
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May 27, 2014 08:41
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That's the thing, that promise has been there since they began this ally business, but they haven't followed through with it at all. It's just been poo poo theory-ing around the actual rules and they don't actually do anything to make it intriguing. Pull the loving trigger already. e: Knights are a lovely example, they feel so tacked on. Fix fucked around with this message at 08:59 on May 27, 2014 |
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