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Bomb-Bunny
Mar 4, 2007
A true population explosion.

Kegslayer posted:

I don't even get how they can say that nobody has produced or earned anything when they're all being paid and paying off services they've previously used. They should really be teaching basic finance and accounting classes in high school.

Except the person who reads that and affirms it is the kind of person who's thinking process is rooted in two basic axioms "debt=bad" and "debt for property is an exception". Credit cards are obviously left outside the axiom because they're really just a payday loan to yourself, and going in debt for a car is okay because declining value is balanced by the ability to work. The idea that "nothing good has happened when people have massively retired debt" is just the culmination of all the other idiotic things people think about economics and finance. It's the same mentality that says "rent money is dead money" and refuses to equate the cost of public transport with the cost of petrol.

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Bomb-Bunny
Mar 4, 2007
A true population explosion.

I've been teaching now for a little more than a month, after a year working in the same school as a Teaching Aide, and everything Milky Moor said is correct. Graduated from my course at the end of 2012, and the TA job (and one in Ararat) were the only ones I even got called in to interview for. I'm ridiculously lucky to be at a campus that my school is slowly trying to strangle to death through a combination of harsh neglect and perennial rug-pulling, which, in the generally milieu of Melbourne's west feels like fiddling whilst Rome burns. Lucky because it means that the only people left are the one's who care enough about the job to not bail on a sinking ship. Career wise it's in none of our self-interests to stay, since all it means is frustration, short-changing, and administrative contempt. This has meant that we're all kind of going down with the ship together, fatalistically, which it seems is really a clarion horn for staff culture.

Both my placement schools were in not dissimilar situations (state schools vs. Catholic though), one was very like my current workplace, one basically couldn't care less if I choked to death in the staffroom as long as I was off the clock when I did it.

Bomb-Bunny
Mar 4, 2007
A true population explosion.

A lot of people I know who went regional (a few as course grads, a few TFA) hated it because they felt that there was no support offered to them to make the adjustment. This is in Victoria though, I hear (once you're waitlisted for a place!) that the NSW style system of rostering actually works well in that regard (because everyone's on the same page and there isn't as much entrenched interest).

Bomb-Bunny
Mar 4, 2007
A true population explosion.

Comstar posted:

Jon Faine on ABC Radio is reporting political dynamite that there was a conspiracy to get Gillard by paying off his ex-boyfriend with $200,000 to make up stories and lie about who paid for her house. He says the name of the lawyer who was doing it, but not who was backing it - the implication is it was either other members of the Union side (who may have been working for Rudd's benefit) or the Murdoch Press (who may have been working for Abbott's benefit).

The Royal Commission has no terms of reference to investigate, and if it was the Murdoch Press, I predict they never will.

Is it to much to trust that, having appointed a rigid legal conservative might backfire on them? I don't know (based on a reading of his career) how much Heydon prizes his independence, but is there even a gnats ball of a chance that he turns around and launches a rigorous investigation of everything brought up?

The answer is no, isn't it.

Bomb-Bunny
Mar 4, 2007
A true population explosion.


"Isn't it GREAT! Because we brutalise them through tactics we learnt from the golden age of piracy, now we don't have to brutalise them through tactics we learnt from repressive dictatorships!"

What's loving next, they should be grateful we give them surplus sunrasia's so they aren't dying of dysentery?

Bomb-Bunny
Mar 4, 2007
A true population explosion.

Tirade posted:

gently caress, that comment really got under your skin, didn't it? I wasn't saying it to in any way excuse the horrible poo poo that the Libs are doing. It's simply that by reducing the things that drive them to do pursue these policies down to "because they're evil fucks!" makes you less able to really understand what drives them and makes you less able to convince them (or more importantly their supporters) to change their mind. Know thy enemy and all that. If you disagree, can you explain how it differs from Americans who believe that al qaeda hates them for their freedom?

For the record, one more time, I'm a greens supporter and have been for almost a decade. I don't know why I always feel the need to state that every time I say something that goes against the grain of this thread.

Just because they have a rationale that they can justify to themselves doesn't make that rationale real. We're talking about people who believe in a just world where wealth is a reward for moral goodness (see: 'unsuccessful' young should earn-or-learn) yet, somehow, that same doctrine doesn't apply to those coming here by boat, using their own ingenuity and resources to seek a new life. The same level of cognitive dissonance that says that white collar crime that bankrupts thousands and devastates lives earns you two to five, whilst murder lands you the same back again. The same cognitive dissonance that can say corporations are like extremely wealthy people when donating to political parties, but are just a humble man bargaining on equal terms with the worker across the table.

They can justify each and every one of those arguments, hold them as equally sacrosanct to their cause, and fight for them. But each and every one achieves an indisputably despicable end that gives to the great from the hand of the small.

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Bomb-Bunny
Mar 4, 2007
A true population explosion.

Gough Suppressant posted:

If whoever the leader of the opposition is in Victoria doesn't win the election in November I'm heading across the border. At least I'd get to follow a proper footy team!

Might as well stay, it'll be freeways for days and psychopathic developers clomping about the joint pell-mell soon anyway. So it'll be just like Sydney!

(no offence to Sydneysiders, I actually really love your city!)

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