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coffeetable posted:I would like to know which is unironically the worst team in the entire WC so I can "root for the underdog". can any kind poster assist me with this Also if you enjoy shooting up some bootleg steroids then glassing a oval office at 2am outside a night club australia is a good choice.
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Bogan Krkic posted:There's a few active Australia posters itf too so you'll have people to share the agony with. gently caress OFF, WE'RE FULL!
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coffeetable posted:I would like to know which is unironically the worst team in the entire WC so I can "root for the underdog". can any kind poster assist me with this According to the betting men, Costa Rica is the most unlikely team to win the FIFA World Cup in Brazil.
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in my fm game croatia won so i'm supporting them
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How are Germany looking? What's their general style?
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Jun 3, 2014 20:11
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:How are Germany looking? What's their general style? The answers to all of your questions lie here.
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:How are Germany looking? What's their general style? They have depth a every position and versatile players. Since there is only one actual forward (shame about Gomez) it wont be balls out attacking. However, Id take Low over Pep anyday with how to manage a predominately Bayern team. Expect Muller to be gangly as gently caress and score awesome goals, Reus to blister down the wings, and Klose to take out his walker and teach the defenders a thing or two about osteoporosis. Klose will also beat Ronaldos record
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It's less than 10 days now party people, hope you're all in the mood to kick some footballs!
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Soulex posted:They have depth a every position and versatile players. Since there is only one actual forward[...] ...
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Jun 3, 2014 21:40
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ephex posted:... It's a post from Soulex, the American Fiorentina fan who is based in Germany and literally has no legs tbf.
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And? Klose is listed as the only forward on the sheet I looked at. This isn't saying that Muller or schurlle or who ever else won't be jumping in there.
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Shrapnig posted:It's a post from Soulex, the American Fiorentina fan who is based in Germany and literally has no legs tbf. Don't troll in this thread please, thanks
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:How are Germany looking? What's their general style? They're really, really good and play probably the most direct attacking style. If you are a neutral and want to support a team that could win it, I would watch Germany. None of this matters though, because they can't beat Spain or Italy.
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:How are Germany looking? What's their general style? If you're american, you don't like germany because they're one of the haves of world football, and we're one of the have-nots yet we have to play them in the decider group match, assuming we're not already eliminated. Underdog factor. e. However, their style of play is very attractive in the earlier rounds generally, while they're demolishing someone.
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Mr. Mambold posted:If you're american, you don't like germany because they're one of the haves of world football, and we're one of the have-nots yet we have to play them in the decider group match, assuming we're not already eliminated. Underdog factor. I'm Scottish. We could not be any more have-not. Blue Screen Error posted:Have you considered supporting England? 
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:I'm Scottish. We could not be any more have-not. Have you considered supporting England?
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blueyedevil posted:They're really, really good and play probably the most direct attacking style. If you are a neutral and want to support a team that could win it, I would watch Germany. They won't need to beat Spain thought because its Chile and Australia leaving THE GROUP OF DEATH
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Why doesn't FIFA or the professional football leagues like EPL not have instant replay for controversial calls or plays that the officials did not see? I know it's not even widespread in US professional sports but there have been some terrible officiating that goes on in WC, Hand of God being the most obvious, but there have been times when I watched games and the referees were missing such obvious calls that a football newbie like myself could have caught.
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Furious Lobster posted:Why doesn't FIFA or the professional football leagues like EPL not have instant replay for controversial calls or plays that the officials did not see? I know it's not even widespread in US professional sports but there have been some terrible officiating that goes on in WC, Hand of God being the most obvious, but there have been times when I watched games and the referees were missing such obvious calls that a football newbie like myself could have caught. The people who decide on rule changes in football are deeply committed to making sure the flow of the game continues. That means preventing unnecessary stoppages in play. The theorized problem with instant replay is always something along the lines of "A player goes down in the box and the referee thinks it wasn't a penalty, so he waves play on. The other team gets the ball, gets a quick break, and scores at the other end. On instant replay, you see that it clearly was a penalty and play should have stopped before the other team scored. What do you do?" Either way, you're screwed half the time. If you stop play and wait for the instant replay, and it turns out not to be a penalty, you're denying the defending team the chance at a counterattack. If you keep play going and it turns out it was a penalty, you've denied the attacking team a deserved penalty. This is not a problem in most other sports (especially American sports), because they have stoppages all the time--in many sports, between every play. With this problem in mind, the people who make the rules have committed to sticking with the version of the rules that limits stoppages and keeps football as a free-flowing game. That being said, they are slowly adopting new technological improvements. Goal-line technology will be used for the first time at a World Cup this year, which means the referee will have a definitive record of whether or not a ball has fully crossed the line, preventing 'ghost' goals being given (where the ball does not cross the line but the referee thinks it has) and preventing legitimate goals from being ruled out. In sticking with the above problem, though, FIFA's requirement for their goal-line technology is that the referee gets a signal (on their watch) that a goal has been scored within one second of it happening. It's not an instant replay thing that would stop the game, it's an instant signal sent to the ref that a goal has been scored, so he knows to stop the game and award it, and if his watch doesn't go off then he knows to let play continue.
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:I'm Scottish. We could not be any more have-not.
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As a Welshamn I shall be supporting England this FIFA World Cup 2014. Unless they get to the final, at which point they can gently caress off.
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Furious Lobster posted:Why doesn't FIFA or the professional football leagues like EPL not have instant replay for controversial calls or plays that the officials did not see? I know it's not even widespread in US professional sports but there have been some terrible officiating that goes on in WC, Hand of God being the most obvious, but there have been times when I watched games and the referees were missing such obvious calls that a football newbie like myself could have caught. I wouldnt want to live in a world where they'd disallowed The Hand of God goal.
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atomic gog posted:I wouldnt want to live in a world where they'd disallowed The Hand of God goal. Its one of the most iconic world cup images ever, if not the most.
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atomic gog posted:I wouldnt want to live in a world where they'd disallowed The Hand of God goal. Imagine football being invented in Sharia Saudi Arabia- he'd have had that hand cut off on the spot....come to think
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Reminder that earlier that match this happened https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wVho3I0NtU
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Jermaine Dildoe posted:Reminder that earlier that match this happened https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wVho3I0NtU It was later, Hand of God came first.
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I would just like to say any new fans who have decided to root for Spain, their leading goal scorer David Villa has signed on for 10 games in the Australian A League so make sure to bundle in a Melbourne City jersey with your spain one!
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Is there a newbie friendly guide to basic football strategy somewhere? I'd like to read up on some of the basic pros/cons of different formations, like playing 3 midfielders vs 4 and so on.
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astr0man posted:Is there a newbie friendly guide to basic football strategy somewhere? I'd like to read up on some of the basic pros/cons of different formations, like playing 3 midfielders vs 4 and so on. http://www.zonalmarking.net/ sorta I think. It's more an analysis of matches between various teams tho. But really what you're looking for is the book (or e-book version) of Inverting the Pyramid: The History of Football Tactics
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astr0man posted:Is there a newbie friendly guide to basic football strategy somewhere? I'd like to read up on some of the basic pros/cons of different formations, like playing 3 midfielders vs 4 and so on. Wikipedia has really good writeups of all that stuff, imo
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I really found Attacking Soccer by Massiomo Lucchesi fantastic for understanding formations and how they play out against each other and the sort of players required to make them tick. It may be a little bit dense and the translation is a little iffy as it was written initially in Italian but its worth a look at. http://www.amazon.com/Attacking-Soccer-A-Tactical-Analysis/dp/1890946710/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1401987754&sr=8-1&keywords=attacking+soccer
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Paddyb posted:Wikipedia has really good writeups of all that stuff, imo This is a good Wikipedia article to start with, it details the positions themselves, the different roles positions can play, the most common tactics, and the evolution of those tactics over time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_(soccer)_positions
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Hegay posted:But really what you're looking for is the book (or e-book version) of Inverting the Pyramid: The History of Football Tactics This seems like exactly the kind of thing I was looking for, thanks! I'll check out all the other suggestions too.
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Hello Ray Parlour, I am Maoist Pussy the transphobic marxist, so I guess I will be supporting Russia or Iran or something.
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astr0man posted:This seems like exactly the kind of thing I was looking for, thanks! I'll check out all the other suggestions too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_(association_football)
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Maoist Pussy posted:Hello Ray Parlour, I am Maoist Pussy the transphobic marxist, so I guess I will be supporting Russia or Iran or something. In that case it'll have to be Russia I think because of this
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Maoist Pussy posted:Hello Ray Parlour, I am Maoist Pussy the transphobic marxist, so I guess I will be supporting Russia or Iran or something. Half of Iran's ladies team turned out to be men so you might want to rethink that
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astr0man posted:This seems like exactly the kind of thing I was looking for, thanks! I'll check out all the other suggestions too. The quickest overview I can give... Generally in a modern game more midfielders means more defense. It's just a question of bodies in the center of the pitch. You may see some smaller teams throw in a fifth defender but this is a little more rare. Oh also as a quick aside 5 defenders may not necessarilybe terribly defensive as the wide ones (fullbacks) can play very attacking (sometimes known as wing backs) The placement of the wide midfielders is pretty important for a teams attack. Typically when they're called wide midfielders they'll be in the same "line" as the center midfielders and will do a lot more defensive work. If they're called "wingers" they'll be in the same "line" or thereabouts as the forwards Evenly matched teams will tend to shift their players to match others, sometimes midgame but often at halftime too. If a team is dominant they'll sometimes make attacking shifts to better "unlock" the defense, if a team is an underdog they'll tend to stick to a preset gameplan and only shift if they're behind late on
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MLS put together a few halfway decent videos explaining formations & numbers (ie "He's a 10, he's a 9) in the last year or so. Soccer Jargon 101: The Evolution of Formations | …: http://youtu.be/7w-ZA1yxYrw Soccer Jargon 101: Number Position Translator | B…: http://youtu.be/QJrBuntznqc
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Paddyb posted:Wikipedia has really good writeups of all that stuff, imo Yeah, this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_formations and the related ones are fantastic.
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