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Fag Boy Jim posted:What happened to the Italian league anyway, Inter winning the CL wasn't that long ago... Juventus came back and ruined everything. Seriously though, the crumbling poo poo infrastructure leftover from Italia 90 is finally starting to actually fall apart and that's affected the money coming in. With prices what they are now, Italian clubs can't really keep up. It might rebound but only two clubs are owned by oil or other rich guy money, Roma and Inter, and neither one of those owners is anywhere near Sheik status or Russian oligarch. In a way I like that, since it keeps ownership relatively local, but you can see the money gap when the transfer market comes around. We also don't have any teams propped up by the government like Spain unless you count Milan, which could be accurate since Berlusconi's money is all siphoned off from money laundered and stolen from the taxpayers over the course of several terms in office. Also a decade of clubs loving off in the qualifying stages of the Europa League/UEFA cup hasn't helped. No team has taken it seriously for a long time which has killed the coefficient. It's been coming for a while, however, Milan and Inter kept the number up after winning a bunch of European titles and Juventus is garbage in Europe so it's just steadily fallen as those victories start to not count.
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FWIW I really enjoyed what little I watched when I tried to follow Serie A (on BeIN when it wasn't getting shunted off for the Barca game of the week).
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Volkerball posted:Isn't the league itself pretty corrupt too? The latest arrests and bans, which were two seasons ago, were for players or staff who were aware of a possible fix but didn't report it. That law was put in place after the original scandal in 2005. It's probably about as corrupt as any of the other leagues, really, it was just the first to have a major team implicated on sporting grounds. The lower leagues are really bad though.
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General Probe posted:Surpassing Italy would make them 4th in the rankings, somewhere far behind the top 3. Yeah I meant 4th, still only having the English, Spanish and German leagues above it means the Portuguese league is actually a lot of ownage?? At least not garbage like Turkey/Russia/Holland, I don't know what that guy is talking about. Also Serie A isn't great nowadays but it's a lot of fun, it has the best derbies imo.
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iirc Jozy was bad in Turkey but good in Holland so by my scientific ranking system the Turkish league is on a higher tier than the Dutch league
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The thing about the Dutch league is that even though the top teams don't cut it in Europe it's a pretty level playing field and most teams play positive attacking football (they can't defend for poo poo), so it's probably better to watch than Russia or Turkey. You'd be crazy if you actually did though. I agree with the advice to just follow one big league and the CL.
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The International Ice Hockey Federation has this poo poo they call the "Triple Gold Club" which is a special snowflake hall of fame for hockey players who've won a Stanley Cup, an IIHF World Championship and an Olympic gold medal. Does FIFA have any similar recognition for players who over the course of their careers have won a heap of trophies like a top flight title/Champion's League/Olympic gold/World Cup/whatever?
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No. The only individual recognition is top scorer awards for different leagues and tournaments as well as the Ballon d'Or which is the big one and the only one that matters http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballon_d%27Or_(1956%E2%80%932009) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_Ballon_d%27Or
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The Mash posted:No. Hopefully Thomas "the best player in the world" Müller has as good as a first half of the season as he did the world cup because I want a German to win that fukkin dumb Ballon d'Or.
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hopterque posted:Hopefully Thomas "the best player in the world" Müller has as good as a first half of the season as he did the world cup because I want a German to win that fukkin dumb Ballon d'Or. It'll still go to Messi or Ronaldo because that's where the money is
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Total Meatlove posted:
I know, like the golden ball going to loving Messi who was okay to good in the world cup instead of to Hams Rodriguez Or Müller or like any of the half dozen other players that had better tournaments.
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hopterque posted:Hopefully Thomas "the best player in the world" Müller has as good as a first half of the season as he did the world cup because I want a German to win that fukkin dumb Ballon d'Or. Nadine Angerer won it last year for the women. If that makes you feel any better.
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highme posted:Nadine Angerer won it last year for the women. If that makes you feel any better. Who? Do people really watch womens football lol I thought that was just an inside joke we were all into.
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Mean Bean Machine posted:Who? Do people really watch womens football lol I thought that was just an inside joke we were all into. The final of the last women's euro had a viewing rate of over 50% in Germany. So yes, women's football is quite popular in some countries.
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I watched womens football once and it was just constant hair-pulling and tit-punching. Good wholesome fun.
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I'm literally briefly passing out with each hair-pull induced throb
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Earthy Ape Unit posted:I'm literally briefly passing out with each hair-pull induced throb no place for this kind of diving in the american game. hope she got a card
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Honj Steak posted:The final of the last women's euro had a viewing rate of over 50% in Germany. So yes, women's football is quite popular in some countries. Why?
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Because the German women are ridiculously successful (They actually won the euros 6 times in a row)
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Honj Steak posted:The final of the last women's euro had a viewing rate of over 50% in Germany. So yes, women's football is quite popular in some countries. Two. Two countries.
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Honj Steak posted:Because the German women are ridiculously successful (They actually won the euros 6 times in a row) who cares
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Honj Steak posted:Because the German women are ridiculously successful (They actually won the euros 6 times in a row) Gay people are ridiculously successful at sticking large dildos up their assholes, doesn't mean I want to watch it. It's just awful and disgusting. Why don't Germans just go to their local high school and watch the kids play around a bit, that'll already be football of a higher level than womens football.
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Mean Bean Machine posted:Gay people are ridiculously successful at sticking large dildos up their assholes, doesn't mean I want to watch it. It's just awful and disgusting. Why don't Germans just go to their local high school and watch the kids play around a bit, that'll already be football of a higher level than womens football. Again the last euro final was pretty fun to watch with female Manuel Neuer saving two penalty kicks in one match.
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If you identify as genderfluid could you play for both the men's and women's teams?
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Make it like nationality for the World Cup -- one switch per lifetime.
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I'm disgusted it isn't labeled the Cis World Cup of Patriarchy Run by old white men, could it be any more clear?
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Honj Steak posted:Again the last euro final was pretty fun to watch with female Manuel Neuer saving two penalty kicks in one match. Hmm but do women even have enough leg strength to properly kick a football, I mean how hard can it be to save a penalty if it's coming at you really weak and slow, I don't think that's that impressive tbh. I've never watched womens football but I've heard that the US womens team got destroyed by a team of high school kids which is insanely embarrassing.
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Mean Bean Machine posted:Hmm but do women even have enough leg strength to properly kick a football, quote:I've never watched womens football https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvGfV6qCiOI&t=49s
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hm yes that header and massively floated cross is not really a great example of how women can really bulge the old onion bag
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JFairfax posted:If you identify as genderfluid could you play for both the men's and women's teams? it might be the only time they pass
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Some people like women's football. Some people don't. Watch it and form your own opinion.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyE9jBZSM4Q&t=293s wrong one but ill leave it anyway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyLGI5egHTY&t=20s
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I like how you post this as an example of how good women are at football or something but the only reason it's a goal is because the keeper is loving garbage.
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I think we can all agree that women's football is definitely real and people watch it for some reason, and that's canon. If you want to continue talking about it, please make a thread.
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stickyfngrdboy posted:wrong one but ill leave it anyway e: sorry gd
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hopterque posted:I like how you post this as an example of how good women are at football or something but the only reason it's a goal is because the keeper is loving garbage. The problem here being?
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Slaughterhouse-Ive posted:it might be the only time they pass Whoa, deja vu.
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