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I want to know: where the hell are they finding these 80s sets? Whoever's designing the sets or finding the locations makes it look so good it hurts.
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# ? Jul 28, 2014 21:05 |
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Re Macintosh -- Earlier in the episode someone made a comment about "Did you see windows?" I am pretty sure windows came several years after Macintosh took the world... well colleges, anyway... by storm. (And if we're going to get nitpicky, I'm pretty sure that GUI and using a mouse were actually from the LISA, while Macintosh put those same things in a cute, relatively affordable little package). But then again since both Apple and Microsoft were ripping off Xerox, maybe Windows was already underway when the Mac came out. Either way, I spent my time scratching my head at timing issues instead of fully appreciating the Macintosh reveal.
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# ? Jul 28, 2014 21:22 |
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Finndo posted:Re Macintosh -- Earlier in the episode someone made a comment about "Did you see windows?" I am pretty sure windows came several years after Macintosh took the world... well colleges, anyway... by storm. (And if we're going to get nitpicky, I'm pretty sure that GUI and using a mouse were actually from the LISA, while Macintosh put those same things in a cute, relatively affordable little package). But then again since both Apple and Microsoft were ripping off Xerox, maybe Windows was already underway when the Mac came out. Either way, I spent my time scratching my head at timing issues instead of fully appreciating the Macintosh reveal. Wikipedia for Windows 1.0: "Microsoft first presented Windows to the public on 10 November 1983". It wasn't officially released until November 1985 though.
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# ? Jul 28, 2014 21:35 |
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There's actually a demo of Windows 1.0 in part 3 of the IRL Comdex 83 home video posted on the last page. It's pretty cool.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 01:46 |
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The Slingshot "team" got the specs from the fax Gordon sent to Donna, which is how they were so far ahead. But I have to agree, Cameron flipping out is kind of dumb. "Hey Cameron, don't worry about it, once we have some capital we'll introduce the Giant II with your OS. We already know what we need for it!"
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 02:01 |
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Colonial Air Force posted:The Slingshot "team" got the specs from the fax Gordon sent to Donna, which is how they were so far ahead. I'm pretty anxious for the finale because I don't think the show writers have learned anything. We might see Joe make some emotional heartfelt plea to Cameron about how she was right and her OS would've blown the doors off Comdex, only to have her yell at him for turning her baby into a beige box and storm off into the night.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 03:22 |
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pentyne posted:I'm pretty anxious for the finale because I don't think the show writers have learned anything. We might see Joe make some emotional heartfelt plea to Cameron about how she was right and her OS would've blown the doors off Comdex, only to have her yell at him for turning her baby into a beige box and storm off into the night. If that happens I won't be back for season 2 (if there is one); but the way things are going it wouldn't surprise me, maybe even likely. I've never been to Comdex but I've been to plenty of conventions and it's odd they never manned their booth except for 5 minutes. I would say that part was off-camera but really they spent a lot of time doing other poo poo (much of it hysterical drama) and the booth would have been empty almost the entire time. Doesn't seem wise. I understand that you wouldn't want to film the main characters standing around a booth all day but it's Comdex, that should have been covered somehow. Also their reaction to the Slingshot seemed extreme, like their balloon was completely deflated at it's mere mention. I understand Donna's reaction at being betrayed but the rest of them acted like children who lost their favorite toy. I don't know, might just be my unfamiliarity with that type of business.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 03:46 |
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wormil posted:If that happens I won't be back for season 2 (if there is one); but the way things are going it wouldn't surprise me, maybe even likely. If you were a retailer in 1983 would you rather work with Texas Instruments on a state of the art (buggy) PC or a small unknown company? They were pretty much hosed by the Slingshot, the other realities besides design (manufacturing, support) etc would crush them if they have a competitor that matches their specs and design.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 04:03 |
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ascii genitals posted:If you were a retailer in 1983 would you rather work with Texas Instruments on a state of the art (buggy) PC or a small unknown company? They were pretty much hosed by the Slingshot, the other realities besides design (manufacturing, support) etc would crush them if they have a competitor that matches their specs and design. Then they should have taken the idea to TI but the question was about their behavior which was completely defeatist. In 1983 I would have reacted the same way but I was a kid then, at 30 years old I would have acted like an adult and tried to lock down some orders based on a working prototype over a poster and some promises.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 04:33 |
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The slingshot wasn't from TI though. Affair guy resigned in the last episode.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 04:39 |
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ascii genitals posted:If you were a retailer in 1983 would you rather work with Texas Instruments on a state of the art (buggy) PC or a small unknown company? Cardiff isn't some small unknown company. It's heavily implied that they had some major inroads in the mainframe business; which then get eroded away by IBM in an effort to deter them from entering the PC market.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 04:45 |
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That subtle "1492" room number was where the people were watching the Mac reveal, hahaha.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 06:27 |
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ascii genitals posted:If you were a retailer in 1983 would you rather work with Texas Instruments on a state of the art (buggy) PC or a small unknown company? They were pretty much hosed by the Slingshot, the other realities besides design (manufacturing, support) etc would crush them if they have a competitor that matches their specs and design.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 07:49 |
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TheRationalRedditor posted:The Slingshot wasn't a TI product, the guy left mysteriously the previous episode and founded his own terribly devised eponymous label. That makes them being able to make such a close copy of the Giant in a fraction of the time it took for the original to be made even more implausible. Like you said earlier, the reveal of the Slingshot was a good surprise plot twist at first, it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever though once the initial surprise wears off and I think about it even a little bit. Anyway, does Gordon and Donna's pillowtalk consist mainly of PC specs discussion? I'm just wondering how Gordon jumped so fast from "Our whole PC design and concept got jacked by these assholes" to "Donna's been sleeping with her thief boss"
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 12:25 |
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savinhill posted:That makes them being able to make such a close copy of the Giant in a fraction of the time it took for the original to be made even more implausible. Like you said earlier, the reveal of the Slingshot was a good surprise plot twist at first, it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever though once the initial surprise wears off and I think about it even a little bit. They didn't have a working product yet. They just had pictures.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 13:31 |
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GutBomb posted:They didn't have a working product yet. They just had pictures. "Guys, have you seen that brochure for the Zaltair? We're finished, time to pack it up and go home."
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 13:57 |
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JohnSherman posted:"Guys, have you seen that brochure for the Zaltair? We're finished, time to pack it up and go home." Did you miss the printer scene? It was exactly that. Besides, they didn't pack it up and go home. Did you even watch the episode?
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 14:25 |
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GutBomb posted:Did you miss the printer scene? It was exactly that. Mentally they did. While the printer guys were a similar situation, the scale was way different, two guys vs IBM.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:22 |
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savinhill posted:That makes them being able to make such a close copy of the Giant in a fraction of the time it took for the original to be made even more implausible. Like you said earlier, the reveal of the Slingshot was a good surprise plot twist at first, it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever though once the initial surprise wears off and I think about it even a little bit. GutBomb posted:They didn't have a working product yet. They just had pictures.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 16:44 |
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TheRationalRedditor posted:The guy kept boasting that they were going to beat the Giant to stores by at least a month so that still doesn't make any sense. A sales guy making promises... you can take that to the bank!
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 17:40 |
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Athenry posted:The slingshot wasn't from TI though. Affair guy resigned in the last episode. Ah duh I missed that, would have made a lot more sense if the larger company was the one screwing them.
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# ? Jul 30, 2014 01:01 |
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There's something logically askew here. The Slingshot guys didn't have a product and yet they offered to pay Cardiff off. If they were genuinely going to be first to market with a cheaper product, why do that? Is it to pay Cardiff to not compete? That doesn't make sense given the crapheap of players. Why worry about Cardiff's competition? Is it to prevent a legal battle? As the guy said, they're in the compatible business and Cardiff is knee-deep in poo poo already. By the time a lawsuit got settled, the fight would be long over. That reason also doesn't make sense. I bet those guys were actually working for IBM. I bet they're being bankrolled by Joe's dad, which makes perfect sense given how IBM is set up as the antagonist and how there have been hints about IBM's portables. The timeline is right, too. If Cardiff accepted the payoff, Slingshot's company ("Whitwell Computing") probably would have immediately been sold to IBM, where the only value of that business would be their settlement contract with Cardiff. They don't have a computer, they don't have the manpower for a litigation-proof IBM bios like Cardiff made, they're just trying to steering things to make way for IBM's upcoming portable. In this part of the story story, Cardiff is obviously Compaq and the Giant is the Compaq Portable. By the way, this little preview of the finale is funny as hell: http://www.amctv.com/halt-and-catch-fire/videos/sneak-peek-episode-110-halt-and-catch-fire-1984 (It doesn't give away anything really, as far as I can tell).
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# ? Jul 30, 2014 08:03 |
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Meatwave posted:By the way, this little preview of the finale is funny as hell: Haha, that preview looks like Donna is setting up the entire evaluation to make it seem like her direct boss/lover took advantage of her, stole secret documents while working for TI, and then suddenly quit to try and launch his own PC company.
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# ? Jul 30, 2014 08:11 |
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pentyne posted:Haha, that preview looks like Donna is setting up the entire evaluation to make it seem like her direct boss/lover took advantage of her, stole secret documents while working for TI, and then suddenly quit to try and launch his own PC company. Just seems like she's telling the truth about what happened. When you condense all the facts down to 20 seconds, it does sound pretty ridiculous. Really it just seems like she's in the process of quitting and trying to just get fired for incompetence so that they don't nail her with a non-compete agreement. Unless I'm remembering the scene from the last episode, I thought she was interested in moving over to Cardiff. It also seems like the TI story is wrapping up or even over now that the affair story is done and the boss resigned.
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# ? Jul 30, 2014 09:19 |
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Donna is going to use her Speak and Spell experience and make the Giant talk
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# ? Jul 30, 2014 13:40 |
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:Donna is going to use her Speak and Spell experience and make the Giant talk I honestly thought she had already done it after looking at the broken Symphonix speaker. I was expecting it this episode.
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# ? Jul 30, 2014 15:48 |
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Lee Pace was very convincing as an intergalactic technology expert in Guardians of the Galaxy.
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# ? Aug 1, 2014 06:08 |
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Tonight's the season finale, right?
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# ? Aug 4, 2014 03:21 |
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Yeah but it really feels so much like a season 2 plot line.
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# ? Aug 4, 2014 03:23 |
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I missed the beginning of the episode- did they establish where Cameron is and how much time has elapsed between that convention and now?
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# ? Aug 4, 2014 03:24 |
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Whispering Machines posted:I missed the beginning of the episode- did they establish where Cameron is and how much time has elapsed between that convention and now? Cameron hohum fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Aug 4, 2014 |
# ? Aug 4, 2014 03:26 |
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Someone please gif the cookie sad face.
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# ? Aug 4, 2014 03:34 |
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It sounds like Cameron is inventing AOL
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# ? Aug 4, 2014 03:34 |
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Thanks! Yeah, just saw that bit. Maybe they're inventing Bonzai Buddy?
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# ? Aug 4, 2014 03:35 |
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He loving shaved! That's it. I'm not watching any more of this poo poo.
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# ? Aug 4, 2014 03:37 |
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That was a ridiculous finale
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# ? Aug 4, 2014 04:06 |
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The shave takes half the character out of Gordon. I haven't decided if I like the blowup with Joe just yet. We were warned at the start of the season that he'd have a meltdown, but I don't buy it happening the way that it did. He can't be going back to Cardiff after torching the truck and walking away either. Maybe next season everyone ends up at Mutiny and the season is focused on getting the modem and software up?
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# ? Aug 4, 2014 04:10 |
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I watched the entire season of this show and wanted to like it, but it spent so much time on the characters' personal lives and building up contrived conflicts that it quickly became not just a chore to watch at points, but unbelievable. I get that the show is supposed to be a drama, but so much soap opera level stuff began happening at the middle point that I almost stopped watching entirely. The last 2 episodes had much better writing. From what I've read, it seems that this show hasn't been renewed for another season yet, and ratings aren't good enough to expect another season. Despite what I did like about this show (all of the primary actors are great in their roles), I wouldn't care too much if it doesn't get renewed.
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# ? Aug 4, 2014 04:33 |
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Next season?
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# ? Aug 4, 2014 04:34 |
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# ? May 10, 2024 01:07 |
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This show had so much promise and they really crapped the whole thing away trying to make Joe the 80s Don Draper.
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