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Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations

pookerbug posted:

It comes down to the frustration that the show isn't fitting people's preconceptions of what they feel it should be and as a result they are unable to enjoy the show for what it is. I don't argue that it's flawed, but so far it's been good enough to keep me interested and I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt - for now.

Agents of SHIELD had the same exact problem, and if anything can be learned from that show it's to reserve final judgement until the season finishes out and the bigger picture comes more into focus.

Another problem is that H&CF has been tasked with being a substitute for other shows that are either on season hiatus or off the air entirely. It probably would have been a lot better received if the viewers weren't currently going through Mad Men/Walking Dead/Breaking Bad withdrawal.

Agents of SHIELD had many problems including not having good episodes until the end of the season, this show is much more enjoyable early on. I do think you are right about this show having a problem being a substitute for AMCs other shows and people wanting it to be a different show.

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Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations

Acinonyx posted:

So part of this past episode didn't make much sense to me. Joe is going all emo on his dad, who says something like 'your mom got high and dropped you off a roof' and he responds with something like 'at least she tried!'. Has he ever explained why he's so mad at his dad? All we've seen the dad do is take an interest and try and help him while Joe appears to be a self destructive super narcissist. I assume he must have been at work a lot and not been there for little Joe back in the day?

Joe is mad at his dad because he lied about his mom being dead before she died. Wasn't that mentioned in the same conversation?

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Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations
I really enjoyed tonight's episode. Lots of highs and lows.

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Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations
Hopefully next season is less like the finale and more like the episode before it. Glad this got renewed even if it isn't the best show.

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Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations

TheAngryDrunk posted:

Joe talked them into it.

I hope he doesn't burn down the set in the middle of next season.

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