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Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat
Pornstache seems like he should be on Super Troopers.

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Babygravy
Jun 12, 2014

I am the gravy
I'm going to need to see your licence meow.

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything
If we don't get more Pornstache and Fischer in season three I'm going to start my own mini riot.

Babygravy
Jun 12, 2014

I am the gravy
If you're a nun, do a hunger strike

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

make's u think

Just marathoned both seasons over the past two weeks.

Larry and piper really are perfect for each other.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

make's u think

So why did poussey go to jail? All I saw in her flashback was she was ready to pull a gun on some brass but her dad stopped that before it happened.

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

nwin posted:

So why did poussey go to jail? All I saw in her flashback was she was ready to pull a gun on some brass but her dad stopped that before it happened.

Later on somebody mentions her selling a lot of weed but it's never made entirely clear what, specifically, she went to prison for.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

She has a drinking problem and does very rash things while drunk. Doesn't seem like a stretch that she pulled something and got busted. She almost shot that German Officer.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Drifter posted:

Pornstache seems like he should be on Super Troopers.

he's the best character in the whole show.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

nwin posted:

So why did poussey go to jail? All I saw in her flashback was she was ready to pull a gun on some brass but her dad stopped that before it happened.

They're probably saving it for Season 3. I don't believe the show has shown why Red is in jail either.

Babygravy
Jun 12, 2014

I am the gravy
Obviously it's because she popped that girls tit.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

PostNouveau posted:

They're probably saving it for Season 3. I don't believe the show has shown why Red is in jail either.

Did Red go to jail for assaulting the mob lady or something?

Slashrat
Jun 6, 2011

YOSPOS

Xoidanor posted:

Did Red go to jail for assaulting the mob lady or something?

I don't think so. She's arguing with her husband afterwards about how the mob husband wants them to pay for the damage, and they later end up repaying the debt by apparently making their freezer available for the mob to store bodies in.

It seems like that whole deal was the start of their involvement in the mob's actual crimes, where previously they'd just hung around and socialized with them.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
I remember a scene where she catches the mob boss's attention when she offers some advice. Maybe she ends up doing some sort of job for him outside their restaurant, and gets caught.

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

Red mentions something about crooked contracts being what got her in prison in the first place, or something like that. Remember how she smuggled contraband into the prison through the grocery deliveries because she arranged their contracts with a bunch of hospitals and prisons to provide lovely food and skim profits or whatever it was?

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Xoidanor posted:

Did Red go to jail for assaulting the mob lady or something?

Nah, she makes amends for that and then later impresses the mobsters with her business acumen. The show still hasn't show exactly what she got popped for.

strangemusic
Aug 7, 2008

I shield you because I need charge
Is not because I like you or anything!


etalian posted:

he's the best character in the whole show.

I was doubled over laughing at his return sequence. "I don't like your face... SHOT!!"

He's totally made to be the love-to-hate character but I like how they give him moments of outright holy poo poo crazy, like his obsession with Daya.

strangemusic fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Jul 26, 2014

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Drifter posted:

Yeah, Tucky's a right monster AND a bitch. Having almost been beaten to death seems to have helped her become a slightly more considerate person, however.

Isn't it implied when she comes back at the start of S2 that she's just heavily medicated now?

Babygravy
Jun 12, 2014

I am the gravy
Melds go hand in hand with all that surgery

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Hijo Del Helmsley posted:

Isn't it implied when she comes back at the start of S2 that she's just heavily medicated now?

Heavily medicated, of course, but you can see near the end of the season that she's actually (somewhat) considerate of other people's feelings /situations.

Like, she actually seeks out the warden guy leading that 'safeplace' group yadda yadda. Maybe she's just currying favor for later, but it legitimately seems legit in the moment.

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe

fatherboxx posted:

And I know that "why is [inmate] not in max" questions are a mainstay of OITNB discussions, but, seriously, why is Suzanne not in a mental institution. Of course the answer is always "American Prison System", but the staff is not even concerned that they have a loudly ticking bomb under them.

Crazy Eyes isn't in psych because something her parents did, some kinda deal or something.

Neowyrm
Dec 23, 2011

It's not like I pack a lunch box full of missiles when I go to work!
I've seen both seasons and I am still very confused about what Healy's game is??? Like why did he just leave Piper to die and then... Hey, guess what! Furlough for you! Did I miss something???

Xealot
Nov 25, 2002

Showdown in the Galaxy Era.

Neowyrm posted:

I've seen both seasons and I am still very confused about what Healy's game is??? Like why did he just leave Piper to die and then... Hey, guess what! Furlough for you! Did I miss something???

Yeah, Healy in particular seems schizophrenic in this way.

I think it has to do with his wife. Healy is a weird MRA type, so when his wife seems to be dismissive of him, he takes it out on all women. When he has any clarity about his relationship, he starts actually doing his job properly.

He probably resented Piper because he was attracted to her, and then she went and symbolically rejected him by embracing lesbianism and acting up. Healy's reversal in S2 might reflect his self-awareness that he was punishing Piper for an imagined sleight in a nonexistent relationship.

Neowyrm
Dec 23, 2011

It's not like I pack a lunch box full of missiles when I go to work!

Xealot posted:

Yeah, Healy in particular seems schizophrenic in this way.

I think it has to do with his wife. Healy is a weird MRA type, so when his wife seems to be dismissive of him, he takes it out on all women. When he has any clarity about his relationship, he starts actually doing his job properly.

He probably resented Piper because he was attracted to her, and then she went and symbolically rejected him by embracing lesbianism and acting up. Healy's reversal in S2 might reflect his self-awareness that he was punishing Piper for an imagined sleight in a nonexistent relationship.

Well said!

misguided rage
Jun 15, 2010

:shepface:God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title:shepface:

Xealot posted:

He probably resented Piper because he was attracted to her, and then she went and symbolically rejected him by embracing lesbianism and acting up. Healy's reversal in S2 might reflect his self-awareness that he was punishing Piper for an imagined sleight in a nonexistent relationship.
Don't forget she also overtly rejected him when he visited her in the Shoe! But yeah he's actually a really lovely person with a ton of issues.

There's also a scene just before he gets her the furlough where he mentions that when he started the job he used to actually help people. Getting it for her was meant to be a return to that, as well as a sort of apology for letting a nutjob try shank her.

Babygravy
Jun 12, 2014

I am the gravy
Well meaning character who loses himself on the way only to try redeem himself in the end.. Fail and be back at sad and spiteful

Grape Juice Vampire
Aug 1, 2009

PostNouveau posted:

Nah, she makes amends for that and then later impresses the mobsters with her business acumen. The show still hasn't show exactly what she got popped for.

Wasn't there a scene in season one where we see the mob guys dragging body bags into her business' cooler?

Slashrat
Jun 6, 2011

YOSPOS

Grape Juice Vampire posted:

Wasn't there a scene in season one where we see the mob guys dragging body bags into her business' cooler?

There was. That was the service that Red's husband negotiated to provide in return for getting Red off the hook for the tit punch.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Xealot posted:

Yeah, Healy in particular seems schizophrenic in this way.

I think it has to do with his wife. Healy is a weird MRA type, so when his wife seems to be dismissive of him, he takes it out on all women. When he has any clarity about his relationship, he starts actually doing his job properly.

He probably resented Piper because he was attracted to her, and then she went and symbolically rejected him by embracing lesbianism and acting up. Healy's reversal in S2 might reflect his self-awareness that he was punishing Piper for an imagined sleight in a nonexistent relationship.

Specifically it was Cabuto preaching to him about how the least they could do for the women was keep them safe and healthy. Healy realizes he failed even that with Piper and pushes through the furlough to assuage his conscience.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Rewatching it, I forgot how amazing Pornstache's return is, when he's walking down the corridor in slo-mo, giving shots to everyone for various reasons.

Like, they've done a disservice by trying to make him the villain, and simultaneously making him the most consistently entertaining character.

sex excellence
Feb 19, 2011

Satisfaction Guranteed

Hijo Del Helmsley posted:

Rewatching it, I forgot how amazing Pornstache's return is, when he's walking down the corridor in slo-mo, giving shots to everyone for various reasons.

Like, they've done a disservice by trying to make him the villain, and simultaneously making him the most consistently entertaining character.

nah, the disservice is not having him work in the facility consistently

Babygravy
Jun 12, 2014

I am the gravy
Think of him as a superb guest appearance.

Lee Harvey Oswald
Mar 17, 2007

by exmarx
drat shame he won't be back next season.

Grape Juice Vampire
Aug 1, 2009

Lee Harvey Oswald posted:

drat shame he won't be back next season.

I have a feeling we'll get some court scenes where Daya has to come in and testify or something, unless you mean back working in the prison.

Neowyrm
Dec 23, 2011

It's not like I pack a lunch box full of missiles when I go to work!

Grape Juice Vampire posted:

I have a feeling we'll get some court scenes where Daya has to come in and testify or something, unless you mean back working in the prison.

He's not returning next season at all.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

So the tally of characters not returning so far is: Pornstache, Vee, Rosa.

And with any luck, Bennett, Larry and Polly.

Neowyrm
Dec 23, 2011

It's not like I pack a lunch box full of missiles when I go to work!

Hijo Del Helmsley posted:

So the tally of characters not returning so far is: Pornstache, Vee, Rosa.

And with any luck, Bennett, Larry and Polly.

I enjoy Larry and Polly being around because I really like Piper's ugh, GROSS reaction to them now

Max
Nov 30, 2002

Hijo Del Helmsley posted:

Rewatching it, I forgot how amazing Pornstache's return is, when he's walking down the corridor in slo-mo, giving shots to everyone for various reasons.

Like, they've done a disservice by trying to make him the villain, and simultaneously making him the most consistently entertaining character.

The really great thing about his return was that it interrupted another scene that was going on. You just didn't expect him to intercede when he did.

Riled Shareef
Dec 19, 2013

PostNouveau posted:

They're probably saving it for Season 3. I don't believe the show has shown why Red is in jail either.

Or Suzanne! Right? I guess they want to save up the mysteries surrounding the main-MAIN cast so they can pull it out of their hats for later.

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Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



I did read that Blair Brown and Mary Steenburgen are going to be in season 3

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