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Deadpool is one of the posters that even if I didn't agree with his opinion, he wasn't insufferable about it. Hopefully the next mod is as good as Deadpool.
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smg77 posted:Can the new mod be somebody who never watched Lost? That show has broken too many people to trust its fans to run the asylum.
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Jun 8, 2014 06:16
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The Leftovers might actually be good. Something Cuse is doing (The Strain?) might actually be good too. Also on the topic of people in the JJ Abrams satellite party, I don't immediately hate Kurtzman/Orci like most people. I'm sure someone will accuse me of having suffered multiple strokes.
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Jun 8, 2014 06:32
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Deadpool posted:I loved Lost, and it's finale. So if you do or don't like me, I'm sure that's solely the reason why. I think the only bad thing about Lost was that it caused people to overanalyze a lot of shows that followed to the point that for a long time it poisoned discussion about TV. People started to think everything was a mystery to be solved and saw things that weren't there. I think we're just now getting to the point where people are finally learning that's not the case. But that's not really Lost's fault so much as it's the fault of crazy fans. It took me a few months after the fact to really sink it in the mysteries meant jack poo poo compared to what the characters did when they took it all in. muscles like this? posted:It also inadvertently started the trend of "Big Mystery" shows where crazy things happened that don't get explained right away. Then the show gets canceled and they don't get explained ever.
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Jun 8, 2014 07:02
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I actually had to google that one. Of the ones DP listed, except for The Nine and Persons Unknown, I had watched at least at some capacity or other. Must've been when I wasn't really paying attention to summer TV. Hell I would like to say that even Revolution (RIP) was better than any of those "big mystery" shows. Or somehow they course corrected after the first 10 episodes which I thought were kinda poo poo.
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Jun 8, 2014 07:23
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Deadpool posted:There was one about a group of kids that graduated high school together that I remember too. It kept going back and forth in time and they had a secret that threatened to tear them apart or something. It had a really simple and obvious name that I am blanking on for some reason.
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Jun 8, 2014 07:29
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Deadpool posted:The dumb show I was thinking of a few posts ago was called Reunion. Lasted a whole 13 episodes. But it made me think of a show that I had tried to block from my mind. One that may have been worse than Persons Unknown. Does anyone remember the Fox show Vanished? Holy poo poo was that terrible. So bad they killed off the main character like six or seven episodes in because it was so lovely.
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Jun 8, 2014 07:53
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Deadpool posted:You can relive it now if you want! It's all on Youtube. Why you ask? Because nobody cares about copyright for something that bad! I think?
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Jun 8, 2014 08:02
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Right, Traveler! It took a bit too long to get to the point, also the cliffhanger ending (now that I've reminded myself about it on Wikipedia). That was 2007. drat that was a long time ago now.
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Jun 8, 2014 08:20
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raditts posted:Yes, I understand that, but much like single-cam vs. multi-cam, those aspects are only ever brought up to paint the show in question in a negative light. It's a term that applies to so many different kinds of shows that it's pretty meaningless to even bring it up for any other reason. I mean, every drat story is basically inciting incident -> conflict/complication -> resolution. (i.e. 3-act structure) It's just that "procedurals" mean that the weekly story rarely ties into the whole larger thing (or very rarely). It's a dumb term to throw around pejoratively these days but it is. Especially with the rise of DVD sets/Netflix/Cable TV means that viewers won't miss a thing and that the people crafting these stories can weave other elements together, and with the rise of cable channels being the "home of prestige dramas" somehow makes serial storytelling "better." I mean if we look at Person of Interest as a recent example, the show is formulaic: number (case)-of the week comes up, heroes go to investigate what's up, trip up a few times along the way but make sense of it all, and they get the bad guy. But if you look at the latest season, nearly all the cases-of-the-week basically tie into the central mythology and main season arc of the show. Does this make POI procedural or serial then? This is probably one of the reasons why it's even hard to get "hardcore serial TV watching nerds" to watch POI; they'll ask why you recommend them "typical CBS procedural schlock" and then judge your moral character. But if you recommend them something on Showtime/HBO/AMC they will probably gobble that poo poo up really quick without asking. I mean if we go to some of the heavy hitters as well: LOST: who's the character of the week and what do they want to accomplish? -> they try to get it done, but people along the way try to tell them otherwise -> it gets done (or doesn't) and we see the aftermath. The Americans: Philip and Elizabeth get told they have to do something this week -> they go about trying to figure out the best way to steal intel/kidnap someone/use their assets as the other side responds in kind -> it gets done (or doesn't) and either the FBI or KGB shake their fists in anger.
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Jun 8, 2014 19:39
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Oh, procedural is really just more predictable than anything else. Especially when compounded with "it's a cop/doctor/lawyer solving things every week" show. I'm just more ticked off by people who assume "serial drama" means that "omg they break the conventions of storytelling" when in fact they really don't and despite being "  SERIAL BALLS TO THE WALL CLIFFHANGER OMG CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT JUST HAPPENED " most serial shows' episodes are still essentially self-contained stories; they just involve other things (character development, mythology, etc.) that means they are slightly tougher to just pick up from that spot but aren't exactly dropping you into the middle of poo poo you don't entirely understand.Except maybe occasionally Game of Thrones does that poo poo, and an episode becomes a literal series of vignettes (like last week's was for the most part). Which I guess people conflate into "all serial dramas are this".
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Jun 8, 2014 19:58
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Jun 8, 2014 21:02
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cool kids inc. posted:Hey guys, I'm glad this thread is back. After doing the week to week thing for the first five episodes of Orphan Black this season, I've decided to wait until they're all released and binge at the end of the season. This weekly wait thing is killing me. Netflix (and all the streaming services) has completely ruined the way I watch TV. 
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Jun 9, 2014 00:10
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Yeah it sounds like a bad idea to stick it behind a paywall for not really being "premium" (I mean, it's a comic book quality).
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Jun 10, 2014 06:21
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Grats Annakie! Love live the new mod! (We're all going to die in a blaze of glory aren't we?)
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Jun 10, 2014 22:09
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Bown posted:Oh rad now R&M is the new show it's cool to not watch. What'll be next? Are we all going to start hating on B99 in September?
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Jun 15, 2014 19:53
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zoux posted:Also, multicam is objectively worse.
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Jun 17, 2014 01:48
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Lugaloco posted:In Boardwalk Empire final season news: What. That is actually a super huge time jump, which sounds depressing as gently caress. I mean going 5 seasons is good regardless, but I'm hoping they save that for the finale stretch or something.
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Jun 17, 2014 23:58
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Fringe was weird too. The time jump wasn't really out of nowhere IIRC, but they should've ended the preceding season with the invasion or what have you rather than "and that was that" if you ask me. Mad Men also time jumps inbetween seasons but I guess that's mostly the virtue of not having to recast Sally and occasionally Glen (going back to the earlier seasons is really weird with them).
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Jun 18, 2014 01:16
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VDay posted:Bitching about TV/movies/games is especially popular because it's a lot easier to just complain about how something is corrupting your innocent child's mind than to be a responsible adult and make sure they're not watching/playing poo poo they're technically/legally not allowed to.
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Jun 18, 2014 03:02
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In the middle of catching up on Farscape, right at the start of season 3. drat, this poo poo gets dark at times. It's like it wasn't written in the early 2000s at all.
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Jun 18, 2014 04:02
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Rarity posted:Wow, I can't even muster up the interest to watch the season finale to Game of Thrones. It really must have been a bad season. Irish Joe posted:You know a show has gone off the rails when a minor character like The Hound gets more screen time than major characters like Jon Snow, Kelly C. and Tyrion. The episode literally spent 20 minutes of its runtime on some inane fanfiction-y showdown between Brienne and The Hound, but only 5 minutes depicting Tyrion's most pivotal, character-defining moment in the series.
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Jun 19, 2014 15:08
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Spatula City posted:I just finished the first season of Farscape yesterday, and I did not expect it to be THAT good. This show is better than Star Trek in all the ways that matter, holy poo poo. Better than all of the Star Treks, except maybe the original series. The characters drive the plot, and they are such strong characters, at that, multifaceted and dynamic. And, jesus christ, how did they make puppets so expressive? Rygel and Pilot are incredible feats of design. The Nerve/The Hidden Memory two-parter is as thrilling as anything I've seen from a sci-fi show, easily comparable to the Chain of Command two-parter from TNG. 
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Jun 20, 2014 01:48
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Mu Zeta posted:Fat people suck at everything including eating competitions.
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Jun 20, 2014 16:56
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Holy crap, I'm making my way through Farscape and season 3 keeps getting better. I'm like 6 episodes into this season but holy gently caress I remember some of it when I caught it on TV but first of all the loving 2-parter where Zahn sacrifices herself, followed by the episode where they go back in time and can only unfuck their mistake long enough to not have a total shitshow (but it still ends on a super loving downer) and then John gets cloned and both clones survive while everyone else is having doubts about not being sure if they are the clone or the original. It only gets better from here doesn't it? I remember bits and pieces but not sure on the timeline but eventually one of the Crichtons dies from radiation poisoning or something?
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Jun 20, 2014 23:31
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I'm sure y'all used that time the forums were down to catch up on TV. I know I didn't. JohnSherman posted:Television is pretty great guys.
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Jun 26, 2014 02:05
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Haven't watched The Last Ship yet, but umm, is Michael Bay gonna bankroll some of it? Because it's on TNT and if they're going to keep the level of bombastic ... explosions going off and all that I don't know if I would say a show on TNT ever has the budget to do that. At least I can't name one off the top of my head.
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Jun 26, 2014 05:04
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So, getting some Lost/BSG/some other stuff vibes from The Last Ship. I mean it was a pilot so whatever. Covered quite a lot of ground in it, complete with last minute twist and even LOST-esque "thud" before cutting to black. But again, I guess my main concern is if they have anything left in the effects budget or not. So I guess not to expect episode 2 to be BSG's "33" anytime soon and more Last Resort and something more confined to the ship for the most part. But I love how unabashedly Michael-Bayesque military porn was on display in the first half, especially with the helicopter/gunship duke-out.
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Jun 26, 2014 07:22
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DivisionPost posted:Well, I just put up a thread, so you can all go ahead and poo poo that up with how mad LOST and Prometheus made you and how terrible this is going to turn out to be because The Rapture is stupid or whatever.
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Jun 26, 2014 17:06
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zoux posted:I imagine that will be the Big Mystery.
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Jun 26, 2014 19:00
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GreenNight posted:Wrong, it's going to be the absolutely best thread due to the tears of non answers.
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Jun 26, 2014 20:25
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muscles like this? posted:Just a head's up but tonight Syfy is somehow going to air Spartacus: Blood and Sand. It should be fun just to see how chopped up the whole thing is. For the first episode anyway.
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Jun 27, 2014 00:15
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Aphrodite posted:Jupiter's Shocked! Except every time John Hannah goes on a loving cuss rant, it would be odd not to hear him drop some f-bombs or talking about getting shafted.
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Jun 27, 2014 06:39
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zoux posted:You like literally everything.
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Jun 28, 2014 06:32
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Zaggitz posted:Just to elaborate, first of all every season has a different intro. In s2 there was a story arc about a computer virus that was created to infect the major plot device of the show, so the intro would get super corrupted and reboot during relevant episodes. In s3 there was an all flashback episode that used the s1 intro in rewind, and an episode from the point of view of a different character, who wrangled the opening narration from the usual protagonist.
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Jun 29, 2014 19:37
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It might be too early to say but all the people complaining about The Leftovers are probably the same people who took Lost way too seriously and felt like they got crucified by the finale.
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Jun 30, 2014 08:20
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One more insufferable year of insufferable Community fans, followed by another because they will petition for a movie.
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Jun 30, 2014 22:56
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zoux posted:Remember how we were all like "Pfffff that ancient Egypt show on Fox is gonna get so loving cancelled". Well it did already.
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Jul 1, 2014 18:26
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Holy crap, finished the first season of Reign and that was so good. I think Catherine di Medici is way more fun to watch than Cersei Lannister, because the latter barely ever gets anything done in comparison. Actually, all the ladies on Reign are fantastic in their own way.
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Everyone always gives Maslany all the props but people obviously forget about the people on the crew doing all the composting, hell, even the stand-ins deserve some of the cheer for helping put most of those scenes together.
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