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AAA DOLFAN posted:Yeah Kurt Warner is not even close to the best 13. Eh, he's somewhere in the ballpark but yeah, it's definitely not him.
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Fenrir posted:These two belong together: Norm Van Brocklin and Dan Marino by a country mile.
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Sorry, I couldn't help myself there  At least on the Kurt Warner. I legit didn't know Van Brocklin wore 11.
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Here's a good one: vs.  Yeah yeah I know, Quarterbacks are always the best, etc, but still. e:More commy gun posted:But right now its Speaking of RBs that played for the Rams and Colts,  And I can't think of ANYONE else that was a legit contender at 93:  Hell, Freeney is the only 93 I can think of that really stands out and I don't think he's taking that from Randle. e: VVV Yeah, Walt definitely wins 71. Unfortunately Largent had to have the same number as Jerry, or he'd be in the talk somewhere... although I guess that would depend on what number he got. Don't think he'd win 81, 84, 88 or 89 either. Fenrir fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Jun 8, 2014 |
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Jun 8, 2014 21:31
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Big Walt is the only Seahawk I can think of at the moment who unquestionably deserves best in number.
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HappyHelmet posted:Big Walt is the only Seahawk I can think of at the moment who unquestionably deserves best in number. Who is the best #3 overall? Palmer? If it is just Carson then Wilson may have a shot eventually.
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^^--Jan Stenerud's a hall of famer! Probably one of the more unfortunate hall of famers but he's in there. Is there a place to look up these things or is everyone just going off of memory here? I mean I can find out what number a guy wore pretty easily but like a list of all guys who wore x? Like, I want to say Priest Holmes might have a shot at 31 just because I can't remember anyone else who was good who wore it even though he doesn't belong with most of the guys we've brought up. Although I'm sure I'm missing someone obvious.
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Grittybeard posted:^^--Jan Stenerud's a hall of famer! Probably one of the more unfortunate hall of famers but he's in there. Donnie Shell. Steelers DB
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Grittybeard posted:^^--Jan Stenerud's a hall of famer! Probably one of the more unfortunate hall of famers but he's in there. Kickers aren't people  But really, is that the best 3 we've got?
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Chichevache posted:Kickers aren't people Daryl Lamonica was #3 for most of his career
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#3? Jim Thorpe and Bronko NagurskiGrittybeard posted:Is there a place to look up these things or is everyone just going off of memory here? I mean I can find out what number a guy wore pretty easily but like a list of all guys who wore x? This might help: http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/jerseys-number.aspx
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Kalli posted:Bronko Nagurski drat it I was just about to post this, I was just getting a pic 
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Chichevache posted:Who is the best #3 overall? Palmer? If it is just Carson then Wilson may have a shot eventually. It's too early to be crowning any of the current Seahawks as best ever really.
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Chichevache posted:Kickers aren't people Bronko motherfuckin Nagurski. Beaten twice, but it deserves repeating.
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Personally I'd give it to Jim Thorpe, because he looked even more like a Bronko Nagurski then Bronko Nagurski did.
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HappyHelmet posted:It's too early to be crowning any of the current Seahawks as best ever really. Yea, which is why I didn't say he was. But when your best at the number is potentially Carson Palmer then it isn't hard to imagine a qb who won a Super Bowl his sophomore season eventually passing him up. Obviously now that more knowledgeable posters have shared some actually good 3s we don't even have to worry about having this discussion.
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Kalli posted:Personally I'd give it to Jim Thorpe, because he looked even more like a Bronko Nagurski then Bronko Nagurski did. I know it's written that he wore #3 but I can't find a single picture of it. That's basically why I went with Nagurski. I'd also put Tony Canadeo up there for #3, but he's not beating those two. Especially not Jim Thorpe. He was the best athlete of a generation and it wasn't even close. I'd say the closest we've seen since then was Bo Jackson's short but incredible prime. Fenrir fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Jun 8, 2014 |
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What number has the worst best player? From that HOF link it seems no Hall of Famer has ever worn 43, 69, 90, 94 or 97. Some pretty good active players wear those numbers though: 43 - Troy Polamalu 69 - Jared Allen 90 - Julius Peppers 94 - Justin Smith 97 - Geno Atkins tanglewood1420 fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Jun 8, 2014 |
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tanglewood1420 posted:What number has the worst best player? Jared Allen has 69. I don't know if he'll make the Hall but he's a great player. I can't think of anyone good who's worn 43 except Polamalu. The best 97 I know of is Cullen Jenkins with the Packers and that's nowhere near HoF territory. Same with 90, we've got what, Suh? Only one I can think of. e: And Peppers on the Bears. Did he wear 90 with the Panthers? I honestly can't remember, and he's wearing 56 with the Packers. The only 94 that even comes to mind at all is Justin Smith of the 49ers. Also the HoF link is helpful but not definitive, since I'd put Drew Brees above all the HoF 9's and Brady above all the HoF 12's. e: VVV If he makes the hall I drat sure won't complain. Jared Allen owns. Fenrir fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Jun 8, 2014 |
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Jared Allen is absolutely a future HoFer. Maybe not a first rounder, but he's getting in. #69 definitely isn't a pushover with him locking it down. There just isn't depth for the number.
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Fenrir posted:
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Kevin Greene for 91? Reggie White only wore it one year I think.
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From what I've gathered so far here are the ones I think are obvious or already decided: 1 Warren Moon 3 Bronko Nagurski/Jim Thorpe 4 Brett Favre 5 Donovan McNabb 8 Steve Young 9 Drew Brees 10 Fran Tarkenton 11 Norm Van Brocklin 12 Tom Brady 13 Dan Marino 15 Bart Starr 16 Joe Montana 18 Peyton Manning 20 Barry Sanders 21 Deion Sanders 22 Emmitt Smith 26 Rod Woodson 28 Marshall Faulk 29 Eric Dickerson 30 Terrell Davis 31 Jim Taylor 32 Jim Brown 34 Walter Payton, but damned if I don't want to put Bo Jackson here 35 I'd argue Aeneas Williams but I dunno, y'all could argue that 37 Shaun Alexander 39 Larry Csonka 40 Gale Sayers 42 Ronnie Lott (surprised I haven't seen some Sid Luckman arguments because those would be valid to some degree) 43 Troy Polamalu 47 Mel Blount 50 Mike Singletary 51 Dick Butkus 55 Derrick Brooks 56 Lawrence Taylor 59 Jack Ham 60 Chuck Bednarik 63 Lee Roy Selmon 66 Ray Nitschke 69 Jared Allen 71 Big Walt Jones 72 Dan Dierdorf 80 Jerry Rice 82 Raymond Berry 83 Andre Reed 84 gently caress YOU IT'S STERLING SHARPE 92 Reggie White 93 John Randle 95 Richard Dent 96 Cortez Kennedy 99 gently caress Warren Sapp, JJ Watt will take this eventually. Fenrir fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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Jun 8, 2014 23:49
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:Demarcus Ware Oh god dammit 
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There's probably an argument to be had about 55, Seau was pretty good.
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I'm biased but I'd argue Tomlinson over Deion for 21, Seau vs Brooks is really close, and Fouts for 14. also Gates for 85
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:I'm biased but I'd argue Tomlinson over Deion for 21, Seau vs Brooks is really close, and Fouts for 14. I love LdT but... no. Seau vs. Brooks IS really close and maybe there's more room for argument there. I'd put Don Hutson over Dan Fouts. ...and yeah. I have to agree with Gates for 85.
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Anyone good ever wear 2 other than that Charlie Trippey guy I've never heard of? All I can think of is like, Tim Couch. And JFF who it'll end up being in 20 years of course. e: Charley Trippi is also a guy I've never heard of. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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Fenrir posted:From what I've gathered so far here are the ones I think are obvious or already decided: From what we've discussed earlier I think Allen is 69 by default. McNabb for 5?
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Grittybeard posted:Anyone good ever wear 2 other than that Charlie Trippey guy I've never heard of? All I can think of is like, Tim Couch. And JFF who it'll end up being in 20 years of course. Matty Ice
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Chichevache posted:From what we've discussed earlier I think Allen is 69 by default. Best at 5 and 69 I can think of, that's for sure. Kalli posted:Matty Ice Pickles  Oh wait no 
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Kalli posted:Matty Ice Doh, should have thought of him. So would he be the best in the Super Bowl era by default?
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Found a handy link for more numbers. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=3212 Grittybeard posted:Doh, should have thought of him. So would he be the best in the Super Bowl era by default? That link had Couch as the best 2 in the Super Bowl era, so it looks like Ryan does win by default. drat...
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Chichevache posted:Found a handy link for more numbers. Aaron Brooks and Jon Kitna lol
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Grittybeard posted:Doh, should have thought of him. So would he be the best in the Super Bowl era by default? I've also got Doug Flutie and Aaron Brooks 
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:Aaron Brooks and Jon Kitna lol Brady didn't even make their list.
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Chichevache posted:
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:No active players are on it except Peyton it looks like I noticed, but they didn't say anything about excluding active players.
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You know what, gently caress it (This is a joke post. Just pointing that out since you guys didn't seem to know the Warner thing was a joke post) Fenrir fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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Chichevache posted:
Man I love me some QB Eagles but that's a weird one. I think Brady would be first if he redid the numbers now, he's just throwing career AV into a list from what I can tell. e: Yeah when he wrote that Brady was tied with Griese for third and he just threw Griese into the list I guess?
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